The problem is this would be against the law, because it would allow someone to engage in vote buying. If you can prove your vote, then a bad actor could also demand that same proof in order to decide whether to pay out or not.
The game is rigged so that you have to assume the voting machines are trustworthy. If you can prove they are untrustworthy, then that same mechanism can be used for illicit purposes.
This is why a completely new blockchain technology is the only answer if you want to continue with electronic voting.
I've had this conversation before. In my state it is legal to take a pic of your ballot, as long as you do not show it to anyone.l
I imagine, though, that if a law enforcement or valid elections official asked to see it, you may be compelled to show your pic. Otherwise, take it and keep it in your personal records.
Just to clarify, the Summer vote in California isn’t indicative of other states. It took almost a year to get these signatures here. The clock to gather signatures starts when the paperwork filed with the state gets approved. That’s when a timeframe is given voting can happen anytime after all the required signatures are gathered. And all of that varies state to state.
In the meantime, they should keep collecting signatures up until the March deadline. As well as get the word out.
Bacerra and his color-between-the-lines requirements for valid signatures reminds me of a nagging school marm. Just another POS in the California bureaucracy.
Third time's a charm! I've wanted to get this POS recalled for a long time.
What a lot of people don't realize is that California is a couple of large blue cities in a sea of red. Without the use of dominion vote switching machines and ballot harvesting, I wouldn't be surprised if California is actually a center-right state.
Was a 20 year VA resident before escaping in 2018. It's not just those blue cities, it's election fraud. In 2016 I lived in a small rural, depressed county with the highest population of citizens OVER the age of 80 in the state. The county flipped blue! No way all those seniors decided to switch parties and vote for Hildabeast. The morning we voted there were two tents set up in the parking lot doing exit polls. The Dem tent had 1 guy with out of state plates sitting in a folding chair talking on his cell. The GOP tent had about thirty happy people eating donuts and talking about Trump. That county was stolen.
And this Californian will be voting to get RID of that menace. I hope there will be Patriot Party candidates all around the globe. What normally happens here in Cali, we just vote another Communist in to replace the old one. How much of that has been rigged through the years? Not sure but I would stake a pile of cash on it!
I’m skeptical. Signatures still need to be verified. So verification doesn’t happen in an election but must happen for a recall and how much do you want to bet most of these signatures will be deemed unverifiable and will be thrown out?!
Way to go CA! Never in my lifetime did I think it would happen.
I've met a lot of conservatives working in / around LA and SF, but the cost of living and BS laws meant keeping your head down and working like a slave to pay the bills and avoid trouble.
It's a a brilliant way to show the American people that they are more powerful than their elected officials. These governors in states where there are more conservatives than lefties should be shaking in their boots.
Virginia
Georgia!
New York
Sadly we don’t have it in our state constitution
Can we impeach the bastard?
I’m not sure, I’ll email my congresswomen and city consul. That’s an excellent question fat50.
Arizona
Minnesota
Washington
pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Illinois
Illinois has a petition drive going. Check for your local in person places to sign.
Michigan
This^
Any petition going?
Thanks. I'd appreciate it. I was envious as to how organized the CA recall is/was done.
Best I've seen is a change.org petition
https://www.change.org/p/washington-residents-removal-of-ag-bob-ferguson-and-governor-jay-inslee
NC
WV
Yes. NC. Cooper is the worst. He has destroyed our state
Oregon! Kate Brown should rot
Vote in person in overwhelming numbers.
Take pics of your ballot before feeding it in the machine. Take pic of the machine ID number and the control number of your ballot with timestamp.
Become precinct workers. Become poll monitors.
Great idea plus I WANT A RECEIPT OF MY VOTE!!!
The problem is this would be against the law, because it would allow someone to engage in vote buying. If you can prove your vote, then a bad actor could also demand that same proof in order to decide whether to pay out or not.
The game is rigged so that you have to assume the voting machines are trustworthy. If you can prove they are untrustworthy, then that same mechanism can be used for illicit purposes.
This is why a completely new blockchain technology is the only answer if you want to continue with electronic voting.
I've had this conversation before. In my state it is legal to take a pic of your ballot, as long as you do not show it to anyone.l
I imagine, though, that if a law enforcement or valid elections official asked to see it, you may be compelled to show your pic. Otherwise, take it and keep it in your personal records.
There we go.
All great advice.
It's smart matic. I'll vote , but it won't matter.
In any case, this should inspire other states to follow this example!
Just to clarify, the Summer vote in California isn’t indicative of other states. It took almost a year to get these signatures here. The clock to gather signatures starts when the paperwork filed with the state gets approved. That’s when a timeframe is given voting can happen anytime after all the required signatures are gathered. And all of that varies state to state.
Richard grennell for replacement :)
I'd vote for him!
I pray Rick Grenell runs against Newsom. He will WIN!! And Trump will campaign for him!
ILLINOIS!!!
It's not official until the verify the signatures because we all know they are going to reject masses of ballots to avoid this recall.
In the meantime, they should keep collecting signatures up until the March deadline. As well as get the word out.
Bacerra and his color-between-the-lines requirements for valid signatures reminds me of a nagging school marm. Just another POS in the California bureaucracy.
Colorado! Plus the 4 lamest of lame senators!
Finger prints on voting ballots!!!
Just go back to paper. I hope we still know how to count.
I say we have each states' National Guard count the votes.
Third time's a charm! I've wanted to get this POS recalled for a long time.
What a lot of people don't realize is that California is a couple of large blue cities in a sea of red. Without the use of dominion vote switching machines and ballot harvesting, I wouldn't be surprised if California is actually a center-right state.
That is just about every State, Look at VA, 85% of the state is red, it's the high population blue cities calling the elections.
Was a 20 year VA resident before escaping in 2018. It's not just those blue cities, it's election fraud. In 2016 I lived in a small rural, depressed county with the highest population of citizens OVER the age of 80 in the state. The county flipped blue! No way all those seniors decided to switch parties and vote for Hildabeast. The morning we voted there were two tents set up in the parking lot doing exit polls. The Dem tent had 1 guy with out of state plates sitting in a folding chair talking on his cell. The GOP tent had about thirty happy people eating donuts and talking about Trump. That county was stolen.
Do you think Xiden is going to try to inferfere with the recall of Newsom?
Is water wet? That’s Pelosi’s nephew!
And how does that answer my question? Everyone knows that Newsom is Piglosi's nephew.
He’s going to interfere because he owes her
That isn't a legal precedent though so if he does that should open him up to impeachment.
The Manchurian candidate stole an election. He does not care.
The American People care.
And this Californian will be voting to get RID of that menace. I hope there will be Patriot Party candidates all around the globe. What normally happens here in Cali, we just vote another Communist in to replace the old one. How much of that has been rigged through the years? Not sure but I would stake a pile of cash on it!
I’m skeptical. Signatures still need to be verified. So verification doesn’t happen in an election but must happen for a recall and how much do you want to bet most of these signatures will be deemed unverifiable and will be thrown out?!
Way to go CA! Never in my lifetime did I think it would happen.
I've met a lot of conservatives working in / around LA and SF, but the cost of living and BS laws meant keeping your head down and working like a slave to pay the bills and avoid trouble.
Yay!
Plenty of time for Newsom to get his Dominion\Smartmatic\Scorecard\Insert rigging method of choice here all buttoned up
Will it be done on dominion machines?
A lot of California uses Dominion machines.
So Newsom wins?
Signatures have yet to be verified. I hope they keep collecting them to compensate for all those they will throw out/discount/disqualify.
Lots of states mentioned, here in Indiana, there is no recall provision. Anyone know of any other states with similar provisions? (Blue States)
That's great, but won't they just cheat?
Will there be cheating????? How will the people know the election is fair???
Governor Donald Trump!
Yeah, but who counts the votes in the recall election...
So impressed! We need a copy to spread this around every State like PA, NY, NJ, MI and WI. So many to choose from!
Ric Grenell for Governor of California!
It's a a brilliant way to show the American people that they are more powerful than their elected officials. These governors in states where there are more conservatives than lefties should be shaking in their boots.
Dominion machines though............
BYARRRRRRR!!!! (in howard dean voice)
Is this thing still on?
WASHINGTON NO one and I mean NO ONE likes that douchebag Inslee
Any petition going?
We need our own ron desantis or south dakota governor I cant remember the name of.