curious where his mind was at while "teaching" the kids on the side of the screen....was his "teaching" so intense that he had to masturbate right away?....what student was he fixated on..
Well: line of defence would be he isn't paedophile,and it even could be true - maybe.I wouldn't be so sure,but this is job for police and next for judge and juries.
But that should anyway ruin his career as teacher and as "pirate" anyway. What such a person could teach your children ?! If not paedophile - it is complete idiot at least.And teachers shouldn't be complete idiots as well as paedophiles,because teacher being idiot could too ruin those kids future. He shall be fired.He shall be fired it is beyond discussion.
And about Teacher's union: they should change rules,or they should be dissolved.
I am not excusing it, and I am in NO WAY a paedophile sympathizer! As I said I have not watched it but maybe you have, to make you so sure it was on purpose?
Check anything I have written about over the past 5 years and you will see I am for the full force of the law when it comes to paedophiles. Thank you.
But jumping the gun and assuming guilt for such an agregious crime is also inhumane.
Imagine being labelled a pedophile - without being one.
I think an investigation is warranted.
Still think he should be fired for his fuck up. But going straight to “confirmed pedophile” - creates a danger of superficially destroying peoples lives before all evidence is in.
As for the “still on the clock”... I mean - you’re working from home... it’s hardly the same situation as taking a wank break on school grounds - which would be absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.
Well - sentencing him as paedophile is one thing - it needs investigation,judge and juries to make sure it was not accident.
Would you want him around your kids?
Not my case because I don't have kids yet... but as I wrote above: if it is not paedophile it is complete idiot. And idiot should NOT be a teacher too. So even if he is only idiot, I would say it with mr. Trump voice from "the apprentice": "FIRED". Those teacher shall be fired. End of story.
Worth mentioning that one teacher was Jewish, and the other BLACK! They actually told the black lady she wasn’t black enough and was making them look bad for not saluting. They are both suing the district for wrongful termination.
Lol that’s what they get. They can’t just stop finding racism, because what else do they have to live for? They are the star in their own movie. It never ends, it can’t.
Eventually all that’s left in the circle are lefties. But there must still be racism. They can’t just stop. So the cycle continues and now everyone left is communist, and even that is not enough. Lol.
Well, this news sure is a great way to prove to the ashleep that teacher's unions are not the benevolent organizations they have been conditioned to believe!
They should. This freak was masturbating to the sight of his own students on the camera. How could any parent let him near their students?
Hi, this is your teacher, Fred. If you just look back his lust for children, he's a great teacher. In no way would he try to groom or lure them into staying alone in class after with him. Why he's super trustworthy! Not a danger at all!
I would think that would be eligible for several violations. 1-lewd behavior 2-contributing to the delinquency of minor children 3-violation of conduct of a teacher in professional setting.
It needs investigation. He would be indeed only idiot watching porn and masturbating just after the lesson. Lynching him is not wise idea if he wasn't raping any child and if it isn't yet proved he did it knowing children are watching - judging him it's the job for judge and juries.
But his behaviour was suspicious enough to think he might be paedophile. And firing him with forbidding working with children would be wise idea anyway. The rest needs investigation,but firing him would be good beginning.
Us too. And I went to public school. Used to think homeschool kids were weird. Now I know the truth and will NEVER send our children to public school, or public college for that matter.
They can abuse kids and don't get fired. They remove the problem by just placing it elsewhere. Just 1 more reason, and should be the only reason needed, to destroy unions.
If this doesn't wake up parents to the absolute evil of the teachers union, then I don't know what will. How can someone who has clearly committed a criminal act, and against children, not be fire-able? Sickening. He needs to be in jail.
Why don't you try masturbating in front of your kids and see how fast they put YOU in jail. But not the teacher, no, no, that's not an option. (And I know, this scenario is gross, sorry).
I'm sure the parents will be thrilled to have a frickin psycho pedophile who masturbates in front of children spend time alone with their child each day.
Bold move. Where I come from that's called "indecent exposure" and can land you on the sex offender registry. Doesn't matter if you didn't know there were kids around; if someone saw you, you're fucked.
Jeffrey Toobin style, 8th grade edition, huh? Wow. The union won't address this but, We've come to expect this from unions representing teachers who have the privilege to be part of our kids' lives. This, however, is also a crime and LEOs should be pursuing. A father of one of the kids on the Zoom meeting will take care of this, no doubt.
Of course he was embarrassed - he was caught. If you know what you are doing is wrong you will be embarrassed unless you are also a sociopath
Sex is a highly inappropriate thing to think about with children on screen so that makes it highly suspect. At the least it's unprofessional. If you are right and he was in a daze thinking about adult sex then - he can't control his sexual addiction at work, so he shouldn't have a position of trust.
At worst he is a pedo thinking about kids. I would bet he has child porn at his home and should have a warrant brought against him.
In this case you have to err on the side of child safety and assume the worst.
In addition public displays of ludity like that are an arrestable offense in most states even if you can't prove he was thinking about children.
Assume the worst means since it's already an arrestable offense for public ludity it warrants looking into with an investigation by appropriate law. You sign statements as a state worker and have to undergo background checks to work with students. This incident out to trigger a deeper background check..
I see where you are going with red flag laws but that is one neighbors or family members word against another on sanity etc. This guy did a public display for all to see.
He should be fired at the least. It isn't professional conduct. Those unions have too much power.
'public ludity' is the key here, he was in his own 'private' home and.... the lesson was over, so he was no longer in the office of state worker (I hope this is true because I have not seen the video nor do I care too) he was not doing it into the camera to be seen, but according to the report by fox, was off to the side of the screen. He thought the camera was off.
I have never in my life felt like defended someone caught doing this, but for an unexplainable reason, after seeing him talk, I think he is genuine. Believe me, I tend to be 'its a guilty verdict' with anything to do with this matter.
'public ludity' is the key here, he was in his own 'private' home and.... the lesson was over, so he was no longer in the office of state worker (I hope this is true because I have not seen the video nor do I care too) he was not doing it into the camera to be seen, but according to the report by fox, was off to the side of the screen. He thought the camera was off.
He was doing it during his working hours. The lesson was over - yes. But is his job contract about giving lessons or "working from hour x to hour y" ?
"Home office" shall be treated like working in office. If you are working from your home on your computer it would be nice if your boss would pay you some costs of your energy used to work at least (of course they don't refund that).Of course it isn't regulated well,but it shall be consider such. Therefore if he wanted to masturbate he shall go to toilet. He shall be fired.
Like I said I am not saying he was right, and I am willing to go with the evidence of guilty. I just said he seemed genuine in his apology and I generally would not believe a person, just because they got caught, as my 'go to' is yes apologising because you got caught.
It was just an opinion. I agree what he did was, was disgusting. But we do not know what was on his mind, only he does, so if there is something else in his history that comes out to support him being a paedophile.... then we can call for his execution.
I am not a sympathiser of paedophiles and I am looking forward to these sick people getting what is due to them for what they do.
Perhaps you have the right of it then. I couldn't bring myself to watch it. How can a man be that charged up after doing a video lesson with kids though? Still seems suspect.
That's the most important point here. I can understand if they don't want to press charges, even tho a crime was committed like it or not, but refusing to fire the guy? That just seems like a can of worms I wouldn't want to touch with 6.9 foot pole
Make that "temporary leave of absence" a "permanent leave of absence" and problem's solved. Then, it's up to the Maryland D.A. for that district to charge him and get a conviction.
fully paid leave....now not only is he NOT working in school, he doesn't even have to pretend to have school from his home....and gets paid to do this in front of children....
I bet there are a lot of fathers that would like to put that teacher on medical leave!
curious where his mind was at while "teaching" the kids on the side of the screen....was his "teaching" so intense that he had to masturbate right away?....what student was he fixated on..
Well: line of defence would be he isn't paedophile,and it even could be true - maybe.I wouldn't be so sure,but this is job for police and next for judge and juries.
But that should anyway ruin his career as teacher and as "pirate" anyway. What such a person could teach your children ?! If not paedophile - it is complete idiot at least.And teachers shouldn't be complete idiots as well as paedophiles,because teacher being idiot could too ruin those kids future. He shall be fired.He shall be fired it is beyond discussion.
And about Teacher's union: they should change rules,or they should be dissolved.
I am not excusing it, and I am in NO WAY a paedophile sympathizer! As I said I have not watched it but maybe you have, to make you so sure it was on purpose?
Check anything I have written about over the past 5 years and you will see I am for the full force of the law when it comes to paedophiles. Thank you.
mmm.... I try not to think about that because I don't know. I thought men could do it in a split second on a single thought. Who knows really.
This is odd for me, I normally want to jump on the bandwagon.
Ouch. Admitting you are a non thinking sheep? Gotta hurt. But the first step is acknowledging your problem. good for you.
Now SNAP OUT OF IT!
Being a level headed person, not jumping to conclusions, and not afraid of ridicule for thinking of a situation from both sides is normal.
Being a bully, proud and arrogant is just sad. Subject closed. ?⬇️
You are right about the second part. My apologies.
But staying on the bandwagon is the exact opposite of thinking for yourself.
Captain Silly Bones is his name.
He shouldn't have been scrubbing the poop deck in front of those kids!
The article says he thought the lesson was over.
If indeed that statement is true... and his job was over. And the lesson was over...
He might have been jerking off to just porn and he is unjustly vilified as a pedophile.
Pedophiles don’t deserve sympathy.
But jumping the gun and assuming guilt for such an agregious crime is also inhumane.
Imagine being labelled a pedophile - without being one.
I think an investigation is warranted.
Still think he should be fired for his fuck up. But going straight to “confirmed pedophile” - creates a danger of superficially destroying peoples lives before all evidence is in.
As for the “still on the clock”... I mean - you’re working from home... it’s hardly the same situation as taking a wank break on school grounds - which would be absolutely disgusting and unacceptable.
Well - sentencing him as paedophile is one thing - it needs investigation,judge and juries to make sure it was not accident.
Not my case because I don't have kids yet... but as I wrote above: if it is not paedophile it is complete idiot. And idiot should NOT be a teacher too. So even if he is only idiot, I would say it with mr. Trump voice from "the apprentice": "FIRED". Those teacher shall be fired. End of story.
You mean put him on a permanent disability??
thank you for this common sense comment.
Wow, but you can get fired for refusing to give a 'Wakanda salute' ??? We live in upside-down world.
https://www.rt.com/usa/516188-bronx-superintendents-wakanda-salutes/
brilliant point i hate these people!!
Worth mentioning that one teacher was Jewish, and the other BLACK! They actually told the black lady she wasn’t black enough and was making them look bad for not saluting. They are both suing the district for wrongful termination.
Lol that’s what they get. They can’t just stop finding racism, because what else do they have to live for? They are the star in their own movie. It never ends, it can’t.
Eventually all that’s left in the circle are lefties. But there must still be racism. They can’t just stop. So the cycle continues and now everyone left is communist, and even that is not enough. Lol.
Well, this news sure is a great way to prove to the ashleep that teacher's unions are not the benevolent organizations they have been conditioned to believe!
Fired? Ummm... what about prison.
What, a whole day? Convicts are slippin'!
The only good child molester is a dead child molester
They should. This freak was masturbating to the sight of his own students on the camera. How could any parent let him near their students?
Hi, this is your teacher, Fred. If you just look back his lust for children, he's a great teacher. In no way would he try to groom or lure them into staying alone in class after with him. Why he's super trustworthy! Not a danger at all!
I would think that would be eligible for several violations. 1-lewd behavior 2-contributing to the delinquency of minor children 3-violation of conduct of a teacher in professional setting.
It needs investigation. He would be indeed only idiot watching porn and masturbating just after the lesson. Lynching him is not wise idea if he wasn't raping any child and if it isn't yet proved he did it knowing children are watching - judging him it's the job for judge and juries.
But his behaviour was suspicious enough to think he might be paedophile. And firing him with forbidding working with children would be wise idea anyway. The rest needs investigation,but firing him would be good beginning.
Fuck that dude, napalm the whole union. Sick bastards.
The hell?!?!??!
The literal hell?
Teachers' unions have to be dissolved TODAY.
Lawless and destructive beyond all sanity.
And we needed real school choice YESTERDAY.
Anything else is, and has proven to be, cultural suicide.
And someone, put a bullet in this pervert.
Teachers unions have been corrupt for a long time, it's one of their major sectors.
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YheNaAEPev8
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGfa9pDYRPs
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zKDq7PYFQE
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmYNNJZHhPY
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-Q1PqRzNI
I agree
I also agree that I had a post removed for way less than this, as far as appearing to promote vigilante violence
That said, advocating swift trial and death penalty should be OK because those are legit functions of state govt
No one who gets paid by taxpayers in a government job should be unionized.
Homeschool your kids. Really. It's what my wife and I are planning on doing for our first child.
Us too. And I went to public school. Used to think homeschool kids were weird. Now I know the truth and will NEVER send our children to public school, or public college for that matter.
They can abuse kids and don't get fired. They remove the problem by just placing it elsewhere. Just 1 more reason, and should be the only reason needed, to destroy unions.
How is this not a crime against children?!?
We should be seeing a spike in rope demand soon.
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Qanon be way sis
If this doesn't wake up parents to the absolute evil of the teachers union, then I don't know what will. How can someone who has clearly committed a criminal act, and against children, not be fire-able? Sickening. He needs to be in jail.
If there was any ounce of respect to be had for this Teacher's Union, it is now gone.
Cheryl Bost:443-433-3677
Doug Prouty:443-433-4673
Joseph Coughlin: 410-627-9155
Executive Director Sean Johnson: 443-433-3632 his cell, which he gives in ogm:443-433-6973
i called all four, one answered, but i assure you, they All got a nasty message.
Feel free to do Your part..Its the only way they know...
Notice they don’t announce the bastards name.
jerking off in front of 12 year olds is not a fireable offence? WTF madness.
Fireable?!? How about felony! Arrest his ass!
What is this "masturbating with" bullshit. He was masturbating in front of them!
Why don't you try masturbating in front of your kids and see how fast they put YOU in jail. But not the teacher, no, no, that's not an option. (And I know, this scenario is gross, sorry).
He should get the Mr. Potato Head treatment, immediately!
I'm sure the parents will be thrilled to have a frickin psycho pedophile who masturbates in front of children spend time alone with their child each day.
Bold move. Where I come from that's called "indecent exposure" and can land you on the sex offender registry. Doesn't matter if you didn't know there were kids around; if someone saw you, you're fucked.
Jeffrey Toobin 2.0
Jeffrey Toobin style, 8th grade edition, huh? Wow. The union won't address this but, We've come to expect this from unions representing teachers who have the privilege to be part of our kids' lives. This, however, is also a crime and LEOs should be pursuing. A father of one of the kids on the Zoom meeting will take care of this, no doubt.
They said can not be fired, but is that implying fired upon?
Of course he was embarrassed - he was caught. If you know what you are doing is wrong you will be embarrassed unless you are also a sociopath
Sex is a highly inappropriate thing to think about with children on screen so that makes it highly suspect. At the least it's unprofessional. If you are right and he was in a daze thinking about adult sex then - he can't control his sexual addiction at work, so he shouldn't have a position of trust.
At worst he is a pedo thinking about kids. I would bet he has child porn at his home and should have a warrant brought against him.
In this case you have to err on the side of child safety and assume the worst.
In addition public displays of ludity like that are an arrestable offense in most states even if you can't prove he was thinking about children.
Assume the worst means since it's already an arrestable offense for public ludity it warrants looking into with an investigation by appropriate law. You sign statements as a state worker and have to undergo background checks to work with students. This incident out to trigger a deeper background check..
I see where you are going with red flag laws but that is one neighbors or family members word against another on sanity etc. This guy did a public display for all to see.
He should be fired at the least. It isn't professional conduct. Those unions have too much power.
'public ludity' is the key here, he was in his own 'private' home and.... the lesson was over, so he was no longer in the office of state worker (I hope this is true because I have not seen the video nor do I care too) he was not doing it into the camera to be seen, but according to the report by fox, was off to the side of the screen. He thought the camera was off.
I have never in my life felt like defended someone caught doing this, but for an unexplainable reason, after seeing him talk, I think he is genuine. Believe me, I tend to be 'its a guilty verdict' with anything to do with this matter.
He was doing it during his working hours. The lesson was over - yes. But is his job contract about giving lessons or "working from hour x to hour y" ?
"Home office" shall be treated like working in office. If you are working from your home on your computer it would be nice if your boss would pay you some costs of your energy used to work at least (of course they don't refund that).Of course it isn't regulated well,but it shall be consider such. Therefore if he wanted to masturbate he shall go to toilet. He shall be fired.
Like I said I am not saying he was right, and I am willing to go with the evidence of guilty. I just said he seemed genuine in his apology and I generally would not believe a person, just because they got caught, as my 'go to' is yes apologising because you got caught.
It was just an opinion. I agree what he did was, was disgusting. But we do not know what was on his mind, only he does, so if there is something else in his history that comes out to support him being a paedophile.... then we can call for his execution.
I am not a sympathiser of paedophiles and I am looking forward to these sick people getting what is due to them for what they do.
Perhaps you have the right of it then. I couldn't bring myself to watch it. How can a man be that charged up after doing a video lesson with kids though? Still seems suspect.
I commented similar in this post too. I expect to get stoned for what I said, but thanks PepeSee for some common sense too.
That's the most important point here. I can understand if they don't want to press charges, even tho a crime was committed like it or not, but refusing to fire the guy? That just seems like a can of worms I wouldn't want to touch with 6.9 foot pole
Funny how recently a kid got expelled through zoom for having a bb gun in the background, but a teacher can jerk off and go Scott Free
Don't have to fire a perv but court would be great and sent to jail. Can you teach from a cell?
So basically the entire union is full of pedophiles covering for each other. Got it.
As if unions weren't bad enough already, being the extortion schemes that they are.
Is this how far they have gone in Sex Ed these days? Boy times have changed since I went to school.
CAN'T BE FIRED? That school needs to be shut down and everyone fired then.
How the fuck can they not fire somebody for this...?! Teachers union of piss and prosperity.
I'm sure union rules can't interfere with a criminal indictment...
Make that "temporary leave of absence" a "permanent leave of absence" and problem's solved. Then, it's up to the Maryland D.A. for that district to charge him and get a conviction.
fully paid leave....now not only is he NOT working in school, he doesn't even have to pretend to have school from his home....and gets paid to do this in front of children....