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This is gonna wreck my rating.
posted 4 years ago by chicagotrauma 4 years ago by chicagotrauma +18 / -7

Trump clearly believes the vaccine is safe and effective. Perhaps the antivaccine discussion should be at conspiracies.win until Trump is shown to be wrong?

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– NoahGav 38 points 4 years ago +38 / -0

I don't care if it's safe or effective. I'm not taking something that is 100% unneeded.

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– BasedInFact 6 points 4 years ago +8 / -2

This.

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– ZerroDefex 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Fair enough, as far as I'm concerned I'm in the control group of an extended study.

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– chicagotrauma [S] 0 points 4 years ago +5 / -5

This is your prerogative. I agree, you may not need it, and you certainly should not be forced. As a doctor who cares for COVID patients I got it

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– propertyofUniverse 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Why take an experimental "vaccine" of a new technology with far reaching possible failure modes, when there are safe and effective treatments?

HCQ, zinc, ivermectin, vitamins c and d.

There is an extremely low death rate for those treated with these drugs.

the "vaccine" isn't needed. It brings in infringements to liberty, and is produced by companies who you can't sue who are in league with crazy globalist depopulationists.

Where is your head?

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– NOT_ADMIN -1 points 4 years ago +1 / -2

Its not a conspiracy.

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– eyerighteye 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Fuck the vaccine.

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– vetpatriot17 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Injuries from them are readily available to see on the CDC's website. Too many deaths and what may be permanent injuries.

No thanks. Over 99% survival rate and treatable with meds. I'll stick to that.

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– OkieBowhunter 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Hydroxychloriquine and Ivermectin join the chat

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– chicagotrauma [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Welcome guys

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– AmericanRaised 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I would figure no healthy person with a brain would take a unknown shot for a flu like virus that has a 99% survival rate. I would think trump did this and is saying this for the people brainwashed by the MSM.

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– Brenda_sue 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The ones brainwashed by msm probably not watching cpac

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– Feedpumps 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Certainly prevents MSM from using headlines like “Trump disavows vaccine”

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– AmericanRaised 0 points 4 years ago +0 / -0

They are only watching because of trump, they can't help themselves.

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– Trueastruth 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

But you have to remember that this is being broadcasted from Florida. What do you think this is saying to Floridians, and other red states?

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– DonaldTheBossMan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

And yet have you ever heard of Trump taking it? He was supposed to when it first came out but said that he and his family/administration would at a later date. Has that ever actually happened?

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– Fefifofumdrum 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Good suggestion.

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– bubble_bursts 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

What if Trump has actually released the fabled cancer medication in the name of vaccines? I really think there is something far long term play in this ...

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– pedeITA 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

And what about the people dying for it everywhere? or getting shit sick?

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– UnbreakablePatriot 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah and the infertility.

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I know, I hear you. Like I said, I dont know what the play here is.

We have to ask the questions with an open mind and find the first hand answers: Are people really dying, or is it false narrative craftily created as if its being hidden ?

As far as I can tell, my friend took the Pfizer 2 shots and each time he felt like a zombie for 24 hours. He is 60+ years old. Just a data point.

My personal belief is, as far as the vaxx Trump pushed, we should still collect as much reliable data as we can and figure out what the play here is.

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– chicagotrauma [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I had a fever for one hour after the second Pfizer shot. Problem here is that you get several anecdotal reports gathered from around the world. Some are probably true, other ignorant or not true. Some people around here believe the shot kills 5%!!! It doesn't. Millions have gotten these shots and you only hear about a few possible bad reactions. Trump believes it is safe. He's proud of it. He is showing off how he got bureaucracy to haul ass and work

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– propertyofUniverse 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's a new immunological therapy. We don't know what its long term effects will be, and there could be pathogenic priming. Many cells in the body will be painted on their cell membranes with viral spike proteins made in the cells from the mRNA instructions.

When a matching virus comes along, won't the body attack its own cells which are now factories for the spike proteins now marked as a foreign virus by our immune system's reaction to the new virus?

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– chicagotrauma [S] 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

At some place along the line, an mRNA would be created by your own body to transcribe immunoglobulins to bind to any regular vaccine. My understanding is that this mRNA is converted into an immunoglobulin that binds to the spike protein. Not the protein itself. I think they just bypassed the bodies own machinery to get to that immunoglobulin.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I think that the mRNA is to make a homologue of the viral spike protein. then the body is supposed to make the antibody for that.

Any new viral infection with a matching spike protein will illicit an immune response quickly because the antibodies are there waiting. But, the body's cells will be attacked too because they present the spike protein on their surface.

It has happened in previous trials and animal trials for SARS mRNA vaccines

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– ZerroDefex 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Just like some libtard sheep still think that COVID has a 6% mortality rate.

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– bubble_bursts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I agree. This is where we can prove that we have learnt critical thinking and unbiased thinking skills from Q.

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– pedeITA 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

do understand, i thought too at possible ways in which they may have even taken over the supply chain and changed it or something, but still said like this is to vague, also, remember we have the worse of them from Bill....

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That may be one dimension.

It may also be a primer to hook you on a permanent health risk scheme, so you need to take all their vaccines in later stages. Each vaccine can then deliver the next building blocks to degrade your chromosome 8 functionality, i.e. IQ development/ maintenance and fertility.

Another dimension may be that developing problems you are now not suffering from, but may develop later on, like thromboses, heart and vascular problems, inhibition of cancer treatment, so you will die earlier than later with the till 2019 level of medical care.

This may kill off in a couple of years quite a number of people.

Vaccines have been weaponized for foreign affairs in the past (See National security paper 1974 and an interesting paper on NCBI on vaccines and foreign policy, and you can bet the UN has the same ideas.

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