The plan was never to place Trump in the WH in D.C for a second term, but to totaly break the DS system world wide and create a new world i think non of us can imagine.
What do i mean by that? Everything. The economy,the institutions etc the presidency..Dont you get it? It was all a charade, it has always been fake..Its a matrix..A prison of our mind. The people never held power.. It was all a lie.. The wars..Everything was lie for at least 100 years
So those who say they want Trump back in the WH right know is missing the picture. That part has been played. This was never about Trump, this is about us all world wide. We have to wake up to understand that the society we relied upon just was a prison. Nothing more.
The patriots are trying to create a new world, not trying to WIN in the deep states world.
If everything would go "back to normal"..That is the DS normal. The world they control and rule.
It all comes down to one thing.. We must all unlearn what we think we know about the world. Its all just a prison of control.
We are in uncharted waters frens. Its natural to be afraid but we have to lift the focus. America is just a country, a piece of land and buildings. Its the people and the spirit that is important.
President, the White house..News..Congress,banks,fiat money..It was all fake, just to keep people compliant.
I do belive that Trump will be president, but you have to remember that its just the icing on the cake. Whats important is to awaken and free the world from the DS grip mentally. That is much harder then winning a other four years of nothing.
I appreciate this reminder, and I realize that this is logically true, but it doesn't help at all with my immediate problem.
What is going to happen with all the debt that I've accumulated trying to survive this past year, and how am I supposed to keep going while all of this change is taking shape? Am I to believe that in this new world being envisioned, my debt is just going to be wiped away? Because I have a hard time believing this debt slavery that we've been forced into is simply going to be washed away in the new system.
Fake or not, the need to spend money I don't have right now in order to survive in a world where my career has been destroyed -- with no visibility into the future mind you -- is the big elephant in the room. This better, future world you speak of seems like a lifetime away. Why is it that we can all dream of the best that is yet to come, and yet not even Q can tell us what is supposed to happen to the debts we incur in this world while waiting for the plan to take shape?
What, may I ask, are the specifics of that plan? I hear a lot of wishful thinking from anons, and very little concrete evidence from Trump or Q of what is intended. In order to "lift my focus" as you say, I need to understand if my feet are going to pulled out from under me.
You should look up what the QFS is..Its right now going to be implemented in all central banks..(Game over for the central bankers).
You see the debt you have..In the end..Means nothing. They will erase all national debt as well as private debt since we will be in a new system. So your current debt is the debt in a fake/corrupt world that will soon come to a end.
Please take your time and realy look up QFS and try to understand it. It will feel better for now atleast.
I don't mean to be pessimistic, but I have never seen anyone in a position of authority state that debt will be forgiven under QFS/NESARA/GESARA. In fact, the only leaders I hear talking about that are the leftists, who want to to completely destroy all private ownership and leave me with nothing.
I get that there will be a new currency backed by assets rather than debt. Of that I have no doubt. What I don't see is Trump, Q or anyone authoritative who is not a deep state asset talking about how private debt will be migrated from the old system to the new. I only see the claims from anons. Before I can believe it, I need to see some evidence that this represents reality.
If there is actual evidence of this it would go a long way towards easing my stress.
I think your debt will soon be over shadowed of the fact that the entire monetary system will collapse entirely. So i mean, you can say we all are in this together before it gets better. In the end its just money. If people cooperate you will not starve. Have faith fren.
I am lucky to have high credit scores so I can debt my way through this and transfer funds to reduce interest for a year or so. I am getting my groceries delivered for free, with 5% cash back to get essentials paid for or reduced cost. I pay above the minimum payment on only 2 cards. Furthermore to offset all that, I am NOT going anywhere to try and supplement my S-that died last year between the lockdown and the maskers ball I just have enough to sustain rent and life..
I AM grateful to the unknowns that put out boxes of groceries from the federal programs next to the dumpsters.. I have "shopped" quite regularly while on my early hourly walks around the block and though much of the canned goods are not what I eat, I take what I need with gratitude.
To be honest I haven't read up on nesara/gesara, sounds like crazy talk to me. Plus, no one's debt should be forgiven. If someone borrows money they should be paying it back. Also seems like bad advice to give people that soon their debt will be erased as that might lead some to rack up a bunch of debt.
I will Pray for you as I prepare to fight and die in a Civil War to do what little I can to Protect you. I love my country, my fellow Americans, and I choose to fight and not become a coward. WWG1WGA
All will be wiped clean in the end my friend
Please fear not
Trillions are to be appropriated from China, Gates, and other evil actors for crimes against humanity
A new bright clean world of truth awaits the dawn
Hope!
One word..........NESARA
Counterpoint - This kind of approach is dismissive fantasy, similar to the way a battered housewife or abused child explains away and dismisses abuse.
It dismisses real problems and focuses on kicking the can down the road rather than solving problems along the way.
There is no proof that anything is changing in our favor. Small bits here and there are not absolutes. In fact, it looks worse for us.
It would have been more positive to have Trump in, expose the DS with at least some protection.
You can't claim everything is "the white hats" or "needed to wake up the normies". People have really lost their jobs, had their lives destroyed and lost their lives to suicide and stress. It's not a game nor is it virtual reality. What about those people?
It's like "leaving things up to God" as an excuse for life's harshness. Or "The universe wanted it this way" or "god doesn't make mistakes". It's taking power out of your own hands and handing it over to an excuse.
It's also the kind of logic that abusers encourage.
"I wouldn't have had to take all this from you if you would have just behaved/learned, you see that now don't you?"
I don't know about you, but that kind of logic is extremely fucked up and I don't know if I want people shaping a world for me who have that logic.
The logic of "everything must be dismantled" is exactly the same logic of the left. The "we have to take everything to make you wake up" is abusive logic.
What about people who have really, genuinely had their countries already destroyed? America isn't the world. It's just a tiny speck of the world. Chinese people have already been living under tyranny. Or was that all the white hats too?
I don't mean to disrespect your opinion or be a downer, I merely wish to counter that this logic is a mirror of a different kind of logic that is not very positive.
I just feel this logic really points out that we're missing SOMETHING. There is something else to all this which is a missing piece, I believe.
Well maybe people are feeling like shit because this is the hangover from a corrupt world? Letting people suffer i think is the only way. Look at all the ignorant fools around you.. Sometimes people must feel the evil to wake up. I see what you are saying. And i know its hard. Dose that mean you should be compliant? Role over? No.
. The deep state OWN normies minds..They have used materialistic obsession to achieve that.
You must free people from their stuff so they can see.
Everything you worked for in your life is a lie. Stop dream about the old and fight for the new.
A lot more people will take suicide, because they cant stand the tough of living in a other world then the one they think they know.
You know as well as i that a lot of people world wide would never accept the truth no matter how much evidence you provide. They have nothing to lose to just ignore it in that situation and live in clown world. But if people lose their job and other things, get sick..They will be open their minds and accept the evidence. I don't know, but this seems logic to me at least.
So many normies..They are arrogant,stupid,greedy,lazy,unpatriotic,ignorant and shallow.. And such pride. So i think the only way to get these degenerates to accept fact is to have them suffer. That's how idiots learn.
I guess you guys don't live in the city.
It's actually getting worse. Radical left have like 80% support from millennials and Gen Z. They ready to outs their own parents for speaking against BLM. White guilt is pretty much white culture in the city at this point. Young Asians are screaming #stopAsianHate but only points out white perpetrators.
Conservatives like Trump supporters want to get the jab because the man said so.
I don't see any of the X22's talking points "You have to show the people" / "People now see"...... And it's not surprising to me, I've been trying to convert liberals since 2016. It doesn't work buddy! you'll drive yourself crazy before you can un-brainwash.
I 100% agree that people are brainwashed into believing whatever the media says. But what I don't agree with is that a massive majority is going to wake up and embrace conservative ideology out of nowhere
People are brainwashed. It's one thing to be more moderate or liberal, but the media has pushed people into radical leftism with ease, and all it took was a few big news outlets pushing the agenda.
I definitely do think that America is easily 65% conservative though, and a fair portion of the liberal people aren't radical, but the 10% that are have the loudest voice of all because they have all of the propaganda.
For whatever reason, the rational 75-80 percent of americans have been bowing down to being ruled by the ten percent of leftist elites that are running the world, and instead of standing up and doing something about it, most of them turn a blind eye to election fraud and corruption. And maybe 5% of america is waiting on a nameless, faceless Q to save them, when the only people who can save anything are the people
It's really not hard. If conservatives would've been pushing for election reform this whole time, we wouldn't be in this mess. Paper ballots and ID based absentee voting. But now we're way past the tipping point, and everyone is complacent
Yes but here is the deal. This is not about right or left. Or being progressive or conservative in my mind. Its about enlightenment. The modern human of today is not self aware and many cant think for them self. They are sheep. Even tho conservatives are patriots and have the hart on the right place, they still don't realize that this entire system is a corrupt fucking cesspool of evil.
They have ignored the crazy left because they believed in the system.
So even if 75-80 percent of americans are rational as you say, they are still blind for the world they are living in, and that goes for the majority of the people in this world.
Right/Left is a DS construction to keep the masses fighting.
As someone who's background culture isn't American, I just disagree and feel it's a very American centric approach.
Things in other countries, where people are already and have already suffered long term, have fought hard for their rights and quite often just been outright murdered in return, have not magically changed and those people are more than a little aware of the structure of things.
In fact, what you say, is similar to the ethos of The Open Society - except they just have a different goal.
They think people should suffer to bend to their ways. To remake the world. Hell, that's literally why we're ALL suffering through the bullshit scamdemic atm. Because THEY believe what you just said, they just wish to apply it to alternate means.
I think you really are missing the bigger picture - that the rest of the world is not America. That the rest of the world is reasonably educated on how unfair and slimy shit is. That the rest of the world has had their own struggles. America is very, very, very different to other places. Materialism isn't an obsession in many other countries... because they're already poor. They have basic needs and wants.
I just disagree that it's to "wake up the normies" because other countries have had to suffer tyranny throughout history and its design wasn't to wake people up - it was literally just because evil HAD gained control.
I fear that is where we're at and there's a lot of faith put into something that may not be. In a way, it's staying asleep...to think that this is all "according to plan" and to trust it will all work out as we see our safety, emotional happiness and gains withered away.
Like I said, your argument is now bordering too close for me, to the same ethos commies and Soros and Co. have. They just have a different application in mind, but it's the same basic principle set.
Again, no disrespect to your viewpoint, healthy discussion is always needed in trying times.
I think you are missing the target if you compare what is happening right now with other events in other countries. This isn't about just sit back and let the government do what they want no matter if it is black hats or white hats doing it. Its not about convincing people to just sit back and chill. Its about to make people start thinking for them self and start realize what is important in life and to question the use of big government.
The countries you talk about are poor and suffer because so many people around the world has been asleep for along time. This is not only about America, this is about the entire world. And when i say "the patriots" its the patriots world wide.
P.S Im not American and i dont live in America. But i understand humans. And i understand the effect of socialism.
I'm sorry, but that's so dismissive.
Again, it's no different than Soros. He believes everything should be dismantled too. I see no difference in his plan to what is happening. The dismantling of everything we have built and created in order to force a new world order. The careless disregard for others suffering, the dismissiveness of "well they're poor and probably asleep" is no different than "they're poor and stupid".
No. People have created a life. Something that others have died for. They like a sense of structure that has it's roots planted firmly. The issue isn't the system, the issue is that people who have no regard for others have usurped that system.
People who think taking away from others is A-OK as long as it achieves the end goal.
The US needed Trump. The WORLD needed Trump. Biden being in and fucking shit up is only doing 2 things : achieving what the globalists want at warp speed and shoving it in the face of patriots. It's not waking up normies. It's business as usual for them.
It's exactly how the CCP got a foothold in China. It's the same brute force mentality of "well these people's current lives don't matter, we must dismantle what we have built to install the new". It's diabolical destruction and authoritarian.
Yes, you have it. It's all the lies and tangled web of deceit that governments have woven for hundreds of years and the whole diseased mess is finally coming down under it's own weight. All it needed was for someone like Trump to light the match.
Just finished watching the Chernobyl series on HBO. Having family who survived it, I can say it's one of the best movies I've ever seen. In the final scene, the lead physicist responsible for the cleanup and the investigation makes this statement in the courtroom:
We are paying that debt right now and it feels like the most brutal hangover we've ever had.
The "SOMETHING" we are missing is the Love of God-it is always there, but in our cultural sleep we have forgotten it. this Great Awakening is also the the Great Revival, the 3rd in our national history, I can vouch for the lack of awareness of knowledge of and the access to God, which is far simpler than we realize but after a lifetime of church taught religion, hard to shake free of the binders. "The best is yet to come" words of hope in the form of a promise from a man who has KEPT all his promises..
I'm not a Christian, so whilst I agree that faith is an important part, I don't really mean that... sort of... I feel there's something more to things. Something we can't see.
Perhaps it is a genuine fight over good vs evil, perhaps there is something more universally powerful to this. It just doesn't have the vibe of being the usual human conflict, you know what I mean?
Spirit is the thing we can't see but we are Spirit beings born of our Creator that if we had eyes to see, would see all of Creation as proof of the Creator. In the battle of Good over evil, we are seeing the storm clouds of the battle, but, God (the Creator) has already won...
Well put fren!
i dont know man. when i look at how much money the IRS dumped into all of our bank accounts (that was stolen from us in the first place) i cant help but think the system is going Weimar in rapid fashion.
yes it is going Weimar, or about a 60% probability of hyperinflation. Look at the bond market, no one wants our worthless bonds... look at commodity costs spiking... events exposing the fragility of all the 'efficient' supply chains. no bueno. If you haven't already done so, start building a life raft with BTC. and hold it through the coming storm. 2020 was a lab test bake off of gold vs BTC vs FAANG stocks, and there's a clear winner moving forward.
on it! just started with $50 a week in btc. starting to get some silver as well.
That money was removed from Fed accounts-their black ops slush fund in particular after 107 years, there is no accounting for how much real wealth has been accumulated with that tiny % on every transaction performed in that time.. the Fed is being drained since March 2020 when the Fed was folded into the U.S. Treasury..
Also, income tax collected goes toward the interest owed to the Fed ONLY-not one program the federal gubmint has uses a single tax payer dollar.. End the Fed, end the IRS...
The dollar is debt. wealth only exist in faith skill and physical holdings.
Its not even enough to service the interest on our debt.
Keynsians can such a fat dick
I am pointing out usury on fiat dollars is paid in earned money and that we have been regarded as chattel with a lost at sea clause to maximize investment value.
That it doesn't cover the interest is of minimal interest because they always get their money-we are still paying on the debt from WW1..
oh yeah i agree, but the dollar is not money. it is not a store of value over time. it is nothing but debt.
The 1950 dollar is "worth" 8 cents today.. :( Barely worth the cost of production..
that fucking dirt bag woodrow wilson...
Well said.
This is one of the most meaningful posts I have ever read here. Thank you for helping me to see the light!
Thank you for the kind comment. Peoples greatest problem isn't Trumps inaction..Its that they still have some faith left in a system that has fucked them over since they where born again and again..
Great post! I agree 100%.
All this dooming because we have a placeholder as a President, but it's the same old system. Q and the Patriots are working to replace the old system with a new one. DS and the Cabal think they won because they cheated the election, little do they know that's just a temporary measure. A farce.
'Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming'
The fact remains that the fraud happened and the rightful winner should be installed into the office.
Yes Trump will be president.
But first the new world must be ready and people must see. They all know Biden cheated. What does that say about the normies who still say Biden won? They don't care about law and order. About fairness and democracy. They don't care about freedom as long as they get shit for free and can bully others into submission and to think as they do.They dont care beacsue their freedoms have never been threatened.. They dont care about anything that dosent feed their ego. They dont care beacuse they have never sacrafficed anything for their country or the grater good of all. They are spoiled stupid children many of them.
Try to see this with the eyes of someone in the US military, what they fight for every day..And this is what many of their countrymen thinks? A large portion in both EU and US needs to learn a lesson..It will be a hard pill to swallow but the longer i think of it the more i realize this is the only way.
And if you guys think that the DS has won..Why are you even on this board?
That I agree with.
On a Durham boat in uncharted waters, with frens in every port. Great comment!
Remember that March 2020, during the lockdown, the Fed was folded into the U.S. Treasury and that news lifted the gloom of the lockdown (House arrest) for me.
I've read those articles over and over, and I still don't really understand what they mean.
It means that the Fed is no longer an independent private bank, but part and parcel controlled by the Treasury and the printing of currency is returned to the Treasury. PDJT is the Chairman of the Fed.
beliefs can be helpful but not in the case where there's zero evidence. The NESARA/GESARA failed legislation died in Congress decades ago and no one's even attempted to resurrect. It only lives on in alt tech discussion forums, nowhere else. Ask yourself why?
I’m starting to think this way too. States are going against Xiden and becoming more sovereign
FTFY :)
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Thank you for your opinion on what you believe. I don't share it.
It's the Aniti-Christ who will wipe away everyone's debt; that's how he becomes so popular.
I concur 100%...i wrote a post early this morning before reading yours.
...absolutely, The Plan is much more than we can imagine.
Biblical even.
fuck! "It takes more courage to do nothing" Trump on Pence jan 6th. Holy shit!
Welcome, to the real world (said in Lawrence Fishburne's voice). I agree with you OP, this is bigger than whomever holds the title of POTUS
Nice explanation, I thought I was at 30,000 feet but I was only cruising at 10,000? It's hard to unlearn 50+ years of conditioning all at once. It's like I keep getting a glimpse out of my prison cell before the curtain is dropped back down. I see it then I get another massive blast of gaslighting trying to put me to sleep. Guess what - IM NOT GOING BACK TO SLEEP...
Moves and countermoves. This could have been Trump's 2nd term, but the patriots have to switch gears, so to speak, when the DS makes their move in the game plan. Pence, on Jan 6th was 'their' game plan move which denied Trump the 2nd consecutive term in office. Ask yourself, why would Pence as president of the senate literally make the decision to vote himself out of office? It makes no sense. Recall, Thomas Jefferson as president of the senate voted in this exact same circumstance and as a result, became president of the US.
So, for Pence to have voted himself out of office makes no sense, unless the DS playbook (and the blackmail dossier they have on Pence) forced his hand. According to Q posts and Lin Wood's statement about Pence, makes this a clear justification on Pence's action on Jan 6th.
Now we have reports that Pence is considering a presidential run in 2024 and he's signed two book deals at $4 million! He's also formulated a non-profit foundation; a think tank with his former chief of staff; Marc Short. Again, why did Pence make the decision to vote himself out of office when he was Constitutionally right to send the certified electoral votes back to each state for audits/legal vote verification? The normal progression would have been Trump-Pres/Pence-VP and then Pence-Pres in 2024.
*Perhaps Pence chose not to send the certified votes back to the states because that would have taken way more time than Jan 20th to do the audits, which would have left no president on Jan 20th, which is a specified date in the Constitution for swearing in the next POTUS. That would have put Pelosi, as next in line of succession as POTUS! What a disaster that would have been! So, Trump/Pence move was the lesser of two evils, which allowed the votes to be counted and Biden declared as president.
*However, we have to consider the military is doing their own investigation of the fraudulent election results due to the DNI report proof and all the strange-disjointed happenings with Biden and the military backing him as president. Many weird happenings all over the news/alt news.
NOTE: Pence rode Trump's coat-tails for over four years and has a snowball's chance in hell for a presidential win in 2024! Trump may have a 2nd term, just not the 'consecutive' term we all thought, so that the election fraud was revealed and corrected.
We also consider the military taking control temporarily, which will restore the rightful winner of the 2020 presidential election once their investigation is complete. We see that happening now with some swing state audits and election integrity laws being passed. (It may have been the military that has forced these swing states to reverse course). The military would give these corrupt state officials/judges no option; comply or face military tribunals!
LET US WAIT, WATCH AND SEE.....
Yea well i have one issue when it comes to all this. Alot of people is a bit over focused on the presidency. Because i think alot of Americans think its the ultimate power..Guess what? Its not..
Information and knowledge is the true power. Combine that with controlling all the money flow..
Lets say Trump is president for a other 4 years..What would that have accomplished on its own in regards to the cabal and world power? Trump has set the stage for what now is occurring world wide.
Also i think we all must ask our self, what amount quality of life are you prepared to give up in the short term for the greater good of humanity? Is money and luxury everything in your life? Concerts? Movies? Games? Cars?
If people who has lost their job co-op and help each other out we can out live this.
To me sometimes it seems as many just want new handlers instead of a new world. They want Trump and people like him just tell them what to do as it always has been. This world need a new story that future generations can build on.
And if you cant trust Q and the plan i wont judge you..But i want to hear what your plan is? Civil War? Corrupted courts?
In my mind its only one way..And that is to make the masses understand they live in a corrupt world.
SJW in sports turned people off and they burned their jerseys and season passes. People are turning off Hollywood award ceremonies. People are boycotting airlines and taking to the road instead. The Cabal owned industries think they are in control, but the people in a consumer culture have the last word.
What's a realistic timeframe for creating a new world, after neutralizing the DS?
EXACTLY.
EVERYTHING you’ve been told: science, medicine, politics, religion, it’s all a matrix. Unlearn it to break the control. Break free from the piston.