I live in Texas. I’m down for any candidate besides “Wheels”.
However, the “eliminate property taxes” line gives me pause. There has to be a mechanism that funds roads, police, emergency services, schools, and infrastructure - especially at the city/county level. Unless he has a viable PLAN for alternative funding, this is just a hollow campaign promise. And I think we’ve all had just about enough of that.
Found the real Texan. Our infrastructure heavily rely on property taxes. This is why damn near everybody who climbs out of the lower class and start buying property end up voting red.
No property taxes is an attention grabber, but doesn’t seem feasible. Do we have an issue with rising property taxes, absolutely. Does a state income tax pick up the slack? Food tax? Even higher sales tax? That tax revenue isn’t going away, it just may have a different name.
Also, I think this guy is from the Huffines car dealership family.
Reducing government spending is the key to reducing taxes. The less they spend, the less they need to take from us, or borrow from the federal reserve, the less in debt the country will be.
However, telling the government to spend less or tax less is harder than convincing a transwoman they aren't a real woman.
YOU get it. Awesome!! Our country started out with allodial titles and as I understand it, the feds got the people to agree to 2 years of property taxation following WW2 to help with the war debt. Well, that time came and went, no further discussion and look where we are now.
Property taxation gives the criminals running the towns a ready pot of cash to blow on their Agenda 21 projects as well as piss it all away. Stop that taxation and all of that comes to a screeching halt. These filth are taking in $250K in parking meters and fines. There's no accountability.
So, keep immoral property taxes because the government won’t know what to do with themselves? Property taxes are an abomination. The government would do just fine without it.
There's already sales, franchise, real estate, hotel and gas taxes in Texas. Don't be fooled, they make millions a year even excluding the property tax.
If you compare property taxes to income taxes of another state it really boils down to the same percentages. The only reason I'm OK with property taxes over income taxes is that it's the people that can afford it are the ones paying the taxes, not the poorest that don't have enough to own a house. On the flip side of it, renters end up paying higher rent when property taxes go up. Economics is complicated.....
Several years ago, Dan Patrick made a decent point in favor of having an income tax replace property taxes: if you lose your job, you lower your income tax payments, but you'd be stuck with paying the full property tax.
I feel like this goes back to Trump insisting we are over taxed. I really am starting to believe this with all of the pork the federal gov has been shoveling through since the big lie. I have no doubt this is done at lower gov levels as well. Politicians enriching themselves at our expense.
I have friends in San Francisco who would make side money biding to provide the city with supplies, since by law they had to have it open to bid.
Their strategy? Find the item on Amazon, and offer to sell it at a higher price to the city, which still ended up being lowest bidder from time to time.
Here in NY, NJ, and CT, the school portion of the property tax is 3x or more the amount that goes to city and county. They spend more than $20,000 per student, per year in the public schools! Essentially the same education can be obtained at a southern school for $8-10,000 per year. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/per-pupil-spending-by-state
Eliminate property taxes! Excellent! Primary residences should not have to pay property tax. Any infrastructure investment or upkeep can be funded by the end user through fees and other taxes.
One of the pillars of Liberty is property. How can you own property if you pay perpetual tax on said property?
You said that right. My first duty station in the Army was at Ft. Ord ('86 - '88) in california where I spent about 2 1/2 years. Then I came down on orders to go to Korea. I had about 90 days of leave accumulated so I decided to take it prior to reporting to Camp Casey, Korea. My wife and I had family in Florida so that's where we went before I had to leave for my overseas assignment. We left Ft Ord and made it down the coast of cali, through Arizona and New Mexico and stopped for the night in El Paso Texas. I was stoked because we had cleared 3 states in one day. I thought that we should probably make it through Texas and Louisiana the next day. O how young and foolish I was! We got up, had breakfast in the morning and struck out at about 6:00 or 7:00 AM. We drove, and drove, and drove, and drove, and drove, and still hadn't made out of Texas. I was half expecting to hear Rod Serling welcome me to the Twilight Zone. It was about 23:00 when my wife pleaded to pull over..........anywhere, and stop for the night. I declined, I was determined to get out of Texas and clear one state. We finally made it to Louisiana and stopped at the first opportunity. I can attest that, at least along the Hwy 10 corridor, Arizona, New Mexico, and west Texas looks like a lunar landscape. Nothing, nada, zilch, except rock and scrubby whatever that sort of grows there. It was arid and mostly barren. Once we made it to the more central part of Texas it started to green up, and by the time we found ourselves more in the eastern part of Texas it became lush and rich with greenery. And yes, the air was much more laden with moisture. Take care Fren.
Texas annual rainfall increases about 1 inch for every 100 miles you travel from west to east. El Paso is about 10 inches, and Beaumont is 60 inches annually.
I say we get rid all property/real estate taxes across the country. Such bullshit as they put tax increases on the non November voting such as an April election when a lot less people vote and we all have to pay for those increases though we didn't vote for it.
The property tax thing is a problem...if he just lowered property tax to purchase price then that would be fair. Bought a house in 2013 for 208k, now paying taxes on 350k with an increase of 400.00 per month mortgage bill with all of it going to taxes.
"Calls Gov. Abbott's handling of COVID "worse than the disease"
He sure as Hell ain't off on that bit. Abbot's true colors came out during all this bullshit when he EASILY could have flew both fingers up like Governor Noem of South Dakota did (Not even DeSantis can say that) and zero mandates for anything.
Abolishing property taxes would be constitutional. This would be HUGE for so many reasons. Every town/city has certain basic responsibilities to the people. The public servants are all behaving like drunken sailors (my father's expression--he was in the Navy). It should be left at that. Anything extra should be presented transparently to the people or funded privately. As it is, people DO NOT OWN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. Try not paying your unconstitutional property taxes and see who DOES own your property. This is criminal. In my small shitty town, there are ~8K property owners and some businesses and this area has been economically depressed for many years. The budget was just presented....$55 M. These POS are raping the people like they've never been raped before. This totally needs to stop.
It is my understanding there is no state property tax for individually owned property in Texas. The largest property tax bite is to fund local school districts. Counties, cities, and special utility districts take a lesser bite. While elimination might be a good political talking point, it will never get by the legislature because there are far more voters who do not own real property or have special exemptions than those of us who bear the burden. Every time there has been a serious effort at property tax reform, the dreaded prospect of a state income tax is raised and that is worse than treason, especially for native Texans.
The financial black hole is the humongous waste and corruption of the school expenditures. It needs to be torn down and go totally back to basics--a classical education that is actually useful and doesn't require 12 years of mostly wasted time.
I live in Texas. I’m down for any candidate besides “Wheels”.
However, the “eliminate property taxes” line gives me pause. There has to be a mechanism that funds roads, police, emergency services, schools, and infrastructure - especially at the city/county level. Unless he has a viable PLAN for alternative funding, this is just a hollow campaign promise. And I think we’ve all had just about enough of that.
Found the real Texan. Our infrastructure heavily rely on property taxes. This is why damn near everybody who climbs out of the lower class and start buying property end up voting red.
No property taxes is an attention grabber, but doesn’t seem feasible. Do we have an issue with rising property taxes, absolutely. Does a state income tax pick up the slack? Food tax? Even higher sales tax? That tax revenue isn’t going away, it just may have a different name.
Also, I think this guy is from the Huffines car dealership family.
Reducing government spending is the key to reducing taxes. The less they spend, the less they need to take from us, or borrow from the federal reserve, the less in debt the country will be.
However, telling the government to spend less or tax less is harder than convincing a transwoman they aren't a real woman.
No property taxes is basically Allodial title.
I love that idea. Texas would be a tax haven.
YOU get it. Awesome!! Our country started out with allodial titles and as I understand it, the feds got the people to agree to 2 years of property taxation following WW2 to help with the war debt. Well, that time came and went, no further discussion and look where we are now.
Property taxation gives the criminals running the towns a ready pot of cash to blow on their Agenda 21 projects as well as piss it all away. Stop that taxation and all of that comes to a screeching halt. These filth are taking in $250K in parking meters and fines. There's no accountability.
So, keep immoral property taxes because the government won’t know what to do with themselves? Property taxes are an abomination. The government would do just fine without it.
Replace property taxes with what? Income tax? Piss on that. Dude is blowing smoke.
There's already sales, franchise, real estate, hotel and gas taxes in Texas. Don't be fooled, they make millions a year even excluding the property tax.
If you compare property taxes to income taxes of another state it really boils down to the same percentages. The only reason I'm OK with property taxes over income taxes is that it's the people that can afford it are the ones paying the taxes, not the poorest that don't have enough to own a house. On the flip side of it, renters end up paying higher rent when property taxes go up. Economics is complicated.....
Found the commie.
Economics is simple: TANSTAAFL and stop stealing.
Several years ago, Dan Patrick made a decent point in favor of having an income tax replace property taxes: if you lose your job, you lower your income tax payments, but you'd be stuck with paying the full property tax.
I feel like this goes back to Trump insisting we are over taxed. I really am starting to believe this with all of the pork the federal gov has been shoveling through since the big lie. I have no doubt this is done at lower gov levels as well. Politicians enriching themselves at our expense.
I have friends in San Francisco who would make side money biding to provide the city with supplies, since by law they had to have it open to bid.
Their strategy? Find the item on Amazon, and offer to sell it at a higher price to the city, which still ended up being lowest bidder from time to time.
Here in NY, NJ, and CT, the school portion of the property tax is 3x or more the amount that goes to city and county. They spend more than $20,000 per student, per year in the public schools! Essentially the same education can be obtained at a southern school for $8-10,000 per year. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/per-pupil-spending-by-state
I read what you said with a Texas accent. Well done.
What accent?
TxBeeLady of course. You can read something that a Texan writes out in a Texan accent lol.
I’m teasing.... I should have noted that.
Eliminate property taxes! Excellent! Primary residences should not have to pay property tax. Any infrastructure investment or upkeep can be funded by the end user through fees and other taxes. One of the pillars of Liberty is property. How can you own property if you pay perpetual tax on said property?
YES
Holy smokes, DeSantis in Florida and this guy in Texas. I might have to flip a coin to decide where to move.
Do you like dry heat or humid heat? That'll decide where you go.
You said that right. My first duty station in the Army was at Ft. Ord ('86 - '88) in california where I spent about 2 1/2 years. Then I came down on orders to go to Korea. I had about 90 days of leave accumulated so I decided to take it prior to reporting to Camp Casey, Korea. My wife and I had family in Florida so that's where we went before I had to leave for my overseas assignment. We left Ft Ord and made it down the coast of cali, through Arizona and New Mexico and stopped for the night in El Paso Texas. I was stoked because we had cleared 3 states in one day. I thought that we should probably make it through Texas and Louisiana the next day. O how young and foolish I was! We got up, had breakfast in the morning and struck out at about 6:00 or 7:00 AM. We drove, and drove, and drove, and drove, and drove, and still hadn't made out of Texas. I was half expecting to hear Rod Serling welcome me to the Twilight Zone. It was about 23:00 when my wife pleaded to pull over..........anywhere, and stop for the night. I declined, I was determined to get out of Texas and clear one state. We finally made it to Louisiana and stopped at the first opportunity. I can attest that, at least along the Hwy 10 corridor, Arizona, New Mexico, and west Texas looks like a lunar landscape. Nothing, nada, zilch, except rock and scrubby whatever that sort of grows there. It was arid and mostly barren. Once we made it to the more central part of Texas it started to green up, and by the time we found ourselves more in the eastern part of Texas it became lush and rich with greenery. And yes, the air was much more laden with moisture. Take care Fren.
Texas annual rainfall increases about 1 inch for every 100 miles you travel from west to east. El Paso is about 10 inches, and Beaumont is 60 inches annually.
Where in Texas do you live to have dry heat?
WEST Texas.
BEST Texas you mean!
BROWN Texas. ?
I’m in Texoma area and everything is GREEN.
But I will admit, it’s humid as fuck in July and August.
I would assume southwest Texas. I've never been to TX though.
So, Arizona or New Mexico for dry heat.
With no income tax, I don't see a way to repeal property taxes.
By also cutting spending, obviously. Why give governments money when it will inevitably just lead to corruption?
Sales.
They already have sales tax... and it's too high.
I say we get rid all property/real estate taxes across the country. Such bullshit as they put tax increases on the non November voting such as an April election when a lot less people vote and we all have to pay for those increases though we didn't vote for it.
Well I know the Property Taxes CANT be going to TXDOT. Hell, I just replaced the flooring in my hallway and TXDOT wanted to put a TOLL BOOTH on it.
Whatever.
I'm not going to vote in 2022 or 2024 unless the last election fraud is fixed.
If you don't fix the fraud and cheating that took place... then I don't care who gets elected next time. Let the best cheater win at that point.
Fix it... or forget it.
Hey whatever candidates you don’t like for GOP please send up to Colorado, we could really use anything yeah it’s that bad.
The property tax thing is a problem...if he just lowered property tax to purchase price then that would be fair. Bought a house in 2013 for 208k, now paying taxes on 350k with an increase of 400.00 per month mortgage bill with all of it going to taxes.
"Calls Gov. Abbott's handling of COVID "worse than the disease"
He sure as Hell ain't off on that bit. Abbot's true colors came out during all this bullshit when he EASILY could have flew both fingers up like Governor Noem of South Dakota did (Not even DeSantis can say that) and zero mandates for anything.
Abbot must go.
But does POTUS endorse him?
The ONLY question that matters
There was a time in the past when Texas had neither a property tax, nor an income tax.
How did Texas pay the bills then? Return to what worked before.
And cut spending.
It must be said, the property taxes in Texas are a serious problem. They're as bad as New Jersey!
Fantastic!
Abolishing property taxes would be constitutional. This would be HUGE for so many reasons. Every town/city has certain basic responsibilities to the people. The public servants are all behaving like drunken sailors (my father's expression--he was in the Navy). It should be left at that. Anything extra should be presented transparently to the people or funded privately. As it is, people DO NOT OWN THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. Try not paying your unconstitutional property taxes and see who DOES own your property. This is criminal. In my small shitty town, there are ~8K property owners and some businesses and this area has been economically depressed for many years. The budget was just presented....$55 M. These POS are raping the people like they've never been raped before. This totally needs to stop.
I think he should discuss and go after Abbott’s ludicrous claim that gab is somehow anti-Semitic while having big Israel flags in the background.
No property taxes equals a plan to secede and ratify a flat income tax. That’ll be the fucking day.
It is my understanding there is no state property tax for individually owned property in Texas. The largest property tax bite is to fund local school districts. Counties, cities, and special utility districts take a lesser bite. While elimination might be a good political talking point, it will never get by the legislature because there are far more voters who do not own real property or have special exemptions than those of us who bear the burden. Every time there has been a serious effort at property tax reform, the dreaded prospect of a state income tax is raised and that is worse than treason, especially for native Texans.
The financial black hole is the humongous waste and corruption of the school expenditures. It needs to be torn down and go totally back to basics--a classical education that is actually useful and doesn't require 12 years of mostly wasted time.
Yep. You’re just renting from the government.
Only the "No Eviction" mandates have prevented supervised foreclosures and they are slowly being withdrawn...
YES, and it’s an abomination.