Yepper, never been alone .. damn thing never stops chattering, trying to solve problems, mitigate future issues, plan contingencies for alien dinosaur attackers, after action review everything I've ever done or said, relive past choices ...
I have 4 "channels" acting simultaneously in my mind at all times. In other words, they are all separate inner dialogs that I control.
One manages imagery and allows me to rotate objects in my mind's eye.
Another manages music, prayer, and that can be memorized.
Another is my inner dialog, and is effectively my "voice" when I'm thinking.
The final one is a sporadic counter-argumentative "voice" that acts as the devil's advocate for anything my primary "voice" is working through. Effectively, it is the critic of my mind that ensures I don't just buy into every single crazy idea that I come up with.
All four can act at the same time, but usually tasks only require three at any point in time.
For example, when reading I can visualize the setting, and use the two "voices" as characters when in dialog. It takes me longer to read, because I actually allow my mind to "act" out the lines as if it were a movie.
Further, when praying I can recite the prayer from memory and continue to think and interpret my surroundings and even use my inner dialog to evaluate things.
So, to recap, if I wanted to I can pray the Our Father, visualize an origami crane rotating on two axes, think about how there is a Dark and Light Gray but no Dark White or Light Black, and the final voice points out how stupid Dark White and Light Black would be and that I am devaluing my prayer time by thinking about.
If I try real hard, I can get a fifth "channel" to pop in that does math, but that one is about as effective and reliable as Hunter on the board of Burisma.
My "voices" even parse things through one another.
For example, my inner voice allocates the speaking tasks to my music/prayer voice. It allows me to think WHILE talking and also have the critic there to make sure I don't say something stupid that destroys my own arguments.
I fully suspect people who talk out loud don't have one or the other of those "channels"
It's like a multi-threaded CPU. Dumb people just have one or two threads and their logic implodes if you give them too much to think about all at once.
I think it has as much or more to do with the fact that they don't want to contemplate anything that contradicts what they already believe because then they might have to admit they've been wrong about something.
The context screenshot is an old Reddit thread where someone told the story about the time they asked someone about their inner dialogue. The person responded that they didn’t have an inner dialogue. The comment section blew up.
people have been talking about it more, and finding out how some people are just 'different' in the way they think. like some people can't 'think' about their thinking; no metacognition...
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3917528/pg1
thought this quote from ^ thread was interesting and it mentions 17:)
"Some University ran God consciousness or God Spark, deep spirituality awareness test and the number was like only 17 percent
So yes, majority of people run on instinct, media programming or auto pilot with no level of deeper thought"
That is scary. I cant imagine not having an inner monolog/dialog.
Sometimes people ask me what I'm thinking, so I say, "right at this instant," and after only one minute of description, which covers maybe 1/4th of what I was thinking, they say ENOUGH! How can you get anything done!?!
I say "exactly" to be cute.
In reality, how do you get anything done NOT having all the variables and contingencies and alternative results already thought through? It boggles my mind.
This. True. So I had a discussion about guns in a library with the library director once. She was shocked and visibly scared, not just shaken, scared, of the thought that people had already been in the library with concealed firearms even though it's perfectly legal to do so in our state.
Based on our conversation, she sincerely believed that if she ever were to hold a gun she would be so frightened that she would start shooting people out of pure fear.
In her mind, absolutely no one in the world has any kind of impulse control. Which obviously is what she projects onto others.
So painfully obvious it is her problem, I don't understand how people are not self-aware enough to be able to grasp that concept.
It makes me wonder, thinking back and realizing how self aware I was at 6. I remember the second Regan election, and the internal dialog I had about it based on my parents comments about the votes.
I see the kids my children have grown up with and I can see soooo many npcs, see the choices they are making and have accurately predicted their future (thus far).
Its a no wonder my kids dont fit in. The cognative differences is staggering.
Two parrots sitting in a tree. The dialogue is between soul or atma and Supersoul or paramatma. Everything else is angst, fear of dying or fear of fear itself.
Yea, that's not so much a shitpost as it is true.....
It genuinely is, IQ is just a crude measure of how much information your brain is capable of processing in a given time, below a certain level pretty much all of it is constantly busy with reacting to and processing what goes on around them and there really isn't much left over for thoughts outside of what is going on right now.
Which is also the probable explanation for why impulse control deteriorates below a certain IQ point, not enough spare capacity to process why something may be a bad idea as it happens...
How does this idiot have any idea what OUR brains sound like???
He should be doing a deep dive on the inner voices of lefties! They can't decide who's on top of their intersectional totem pole from day to day! Listen to that sh*t!
Can confirm. My brain is definitely an exhausting place. It’s usually working on 2-3 problems at any given moment, even when I’m doing “nothing”. I wonder how anyone can be bored sometimes.
I can switch off my thoughts, but its not like flicking a switch, I don't know its happened until the wife asks me what I am thinking about.
I tell her "nothing" and she says, "you must be thinking about something" So I tell her I am not and that's when the arguments start.
Women must have this internal dialogue operating 24/7 but men don't, we can sit and not think. At least I think we can't think, I can't comment on that as I don't know when thought isn't there, you will have to excuse me, I am making thoughtless comments.
I was thinking all along that you needed to meditate to a higher level to quiet the mind. Some people are ‘lucky’ in that they do it all the time. Who new?
It blew my mind when I heard some people don’t have an inner dialogue. My brain doesn’t shut the fuck up ever.
Yepper, never been alone .. damn thing never stops chattering, trying to solve problems, mitigate future issues, plan contingencies for alien dinosaur attackers, after action review everything I've ever done or said, relive past choices ...
That’s how my brain works, too. Infuriating sometimes, but at least I’m not a moron lol
*at 2am
I have to pretty much meditate myself to sleep at night or I'll be laying there thinking until 3am or so.
Are you me?
yeah it's a crazy idea, but explains a lot. NPCs, soulless beings, tares... is unsettling to think about.
https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3917528/pg1
I am about six months old into this concept...I was completely shocked.
Like how is this even possible?
Kinda makes you realize why so many lefties look brain dead when presented with logical thought. Tbey reallyCANNOT comprehend what they are hearing.
You have to be stupid to understand stupid and to make sense of nonsense you have to be senseless.
I wish this was a joke...
This is very long, but I really enjoyed this book. https://www.julianjaynes.org/resources/books/ooc/en/
Thank you for sharing! I’m just about done with another book, so perfect timing to jump into this.
Great link. Thank you. Perfect for this post.
I have 4 "channels" acting simultaneously in my mind at all times. In other words, they are all separate inner dialogs that I control.
One manages imagery and allows me to rotate objects in my mind's eye.
Another manages music, prayer, and that can be memorized.
Another is my inner dialog, and is effectively my "voice" when I'm thinking.
The final one is a sporadic counter-argumentative "voice" that acts as the devil's advocate for anything my primary "voice" is working through. Effectively, it is the critic of my mind that ensures I don't just buy into every single crazy idea that I come up with.
All four can act at the same time, but usually tasks only require three at any point in time.
For example, when reading I can visualize the setting, and use the two "voices" as characters when in dialog. It takes me longer to read, because I actually allow my mind to "act" out the lines as if it were a movie.
Further, when praying I can recite the prayer from memory and continue to think and interpret my surroundings and even use my inner dialog to evaluate things.
So, to recap, if I wanted to I can pray the Our Father, visualize an origami crane rotating on two axes, think about how there is a Dark and Light Gray but no Dark White or Light Black, and the final voice points out how stupid Dark White and Light Black would be and that I am devaluing my prayer time by thinking about.
If I try real hard, I can get a fifth "channel" to pop in that does math, but that one is about as effective and reliable as Hunter on the board of Burisma.
Hahahaha... Glad to know I'm not the only one with a committee up there.
Yeah, it's good to know others have the same.
My "voices" even parse things through one another.
For example, my inner voice allocates the speaking tasks to my music/prayer voice. It allows me to think WHILE talking and also have the critic there to make sure I don't say something stupid that destroys my own arguments.
I fully suspect people who talk out loud don't have one or the other of those "channels"
It's like a multi-threaded CPU. Dumb people just have one or two threads and their logic implodes if you give them too much to think about all at once.
I'm that way too, can definitely sense the different 'voices'...
Interesting.
I have never thought about how many voices I might have.
Now that I think of it, I know I have at least two.
I have a running dialog and a running, original soundtrack.
I mean, I compose (channel?) music all the time. Sing or hum to myself. Sometimes out loud.
While I think.
But I also think in my dreams. Make decisions. Is that a separate voice?
Bazinga! That’s it exactly!
I think it has as much or more to do with the fact that they don't want to contemplate anything that contradicts what they already believe because then they might have to admit they've been wrong about something.
Can confirm: brain is exhausted.
Would like to maybe have it SHUT UP sometimes.. or at least whisper.. but no.
I wonder how much flouride plays into not having an inner monolog.
Decades of flouride have done nothing to dampen mine.
How do they "think" if there isn't an inner dialogue??
How do they function?!
It is exhausting. My only refuge is prayer.
how does anyone know anything about someone else's inner dialog?
The context screenshot is an old Reddit thread where someone told the story about the time they asked someone about their inner dialogue. The person responded that they didn’t have an inner dialogue. The comment section blew up.
I remember it. And I also remember users confirming that they don’t have an inner monologue. Blew my mind.
people have been talking about it more, and finding out how some people are just 'different' in the way they think. like some people can't 'think' about their thinking; no metacognition... https://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3917528/pg1
thought this quote from ^ thread was interesting and it mentions 17:)
"Some University ran God consciousness or God Spark, deep spirituality awareness test and the number was like only 17 percent
So yes, majority of people run on instinct, media programming or auto pilot with no level of deeper thought"
That is scary. I cant imagine not having an inner monolog/dialog. Sometimes people ask me what I'm thinking, so I say, "right at this instant," and after only one minute of description, which covers maybe 1/4th of what I was thinking, they say ENOUGH! How can you get anything done!?!
I say "exactly" to be cute.
In reality, how do you get anything done NOT having all the variables and contingencies and alternative results already thought through? It boggles my mind.
This. True. So I had a discussion about guns in a library with the library director once. She was shocked and visibly scared, not just shaken, scared, of the thought that people had already been in the library with concealed firearms even though it's perfectly legal to do so in our state.
Based on our conversation, she sincerely believed that if she ever were to hold a gun she would be so frightened that she would start shooting people out of pure fear.
In her mind, absolutely no one in the world has any kind of impulse control. Which obviously is what she projects onto others.
So painfully obvious it is her problem, I don't understand how people are not self-aware enough to be able to grasp that concept.
It makes me wonder, thinking back and realizing how self aware I was at 6. I remember the second Regan election, and the internal dialog I had about it based on my parents comments about the votes.
I see the kids my children have grown up with and I can see soooo many npcs, see the choices they are making and have accurately predicted their future (thus far). Its a no wonder my kids dont fit in. The cognative differences is staggering.
It has been studied:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech
https://www.iflscience.com/brain/people-with-no-internal-monologue-explain-what-its-like-in-their-head/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/exan65/today_i_told_my_mom_that_i_have_no_internal/
Two parrots sitting in a tree. The dialogue is between soul or atma and Supersoul or paramatma. Everything else is angst, fear of dying or fear of fear itself.
Yea, that's not so much a shitpost as it is true.....
It genuinely is, IQ is just a crude measure of how much information your brain is capable of processing in a given time, below a certain level pretty much all of it is constantly busy with reacting to and processing what goes on around them and there really isn't much left over for thoughts outside of what is going on right now.
Which is also the probable explanation for why impulse control deteriorates below a certain IQ point, not enough spare capacity to process why something may be a bad idea as it happens...
How does this idiot have any idea what OUR brains sound like???
He should be doing a deep dive on the inner voices of lefties! They can't decide who's on top of their intersectional totem pole from day to day! Listen to that sh*t!
There are times I feel like Mordin Solus from ME2.
??
Thinking is mental exercise, so it's not a surprise that some people avoid it whenever possible.
LMAO
Can confirm. My brain is definitely an exhausting place. It’s usually working on 2-3 problems at any given moment, even when I’m doing “nothing”. I wonder how anyone can be bored sometimes.
Does it? How do you know?
I often think in pictures because it's faster than verbalizing things.
I can do both, but it's mostly Bible verses that apply to my current situation that provide the dialogue.
I can switch off my thoughts, but its not like flicking a switch, I don't know its happened until the wife asks me what I am thinking about.
I tell her "nothing" and she says, "you must be thinking about something" So I tell her I am not and that's when the arguments start.
Women must have this internal dialogue operating 24/7 but men don't, we can sit and not think. At least I think we can't think, I can't comment on that as I don't know when thought isn't there, you will have to excuse me, I am making thoughtless comments.
Interesting, What is the cut-off point? 90? 85? ???
I was thinking all along that you needed to meditate to a higher level to quiet the mind. Some people are ‘lucky’ in that they do it all the time. Who new?