Yep. Its almost like you can see the handful of employees standing around a 55 gallon metal burn barrel tossing in anything they find offensive. Like a bunch of hobos in a back alley but much more evil.
George Orwell is not the author of this sentence on the relationship between truth and society
10/14/2020, 01:52 PM (CEST)
British author George Orwell is said to have spoken about the link between society and truth. Her purported quote is shared on social media as follows: "The further a society gets from the truth, the more it hates those who say it ~ George Orwell." ( archived )
ASSESSMENT : There is no evidence that George Orwell expressed himself in these words.
FACTS : Although these words on posters, cards and other objects are attributed to George Orwell, it is impossible to find in what context or when the writer would have expressed himself thus. Even in University College London's large digital archive dedicated to the writer, there is not a single article with the words "truth" or "society" in English.
The Wikiquote platform identified this sentence among its “falsely attributed” quotes. The quote appeared in a 2009 blog post , without being linked to George Orwell. The phrase was associated with Orwell in a forum in 2011. The origin of the bogus quote remains unclear, however.
Quote-savvy blogger Gerald Krieghofer also took an interest in this alleged statement by Geroge Orwell and came to the same conclusions : Orwell is not the author of this sentence.
I did a basic search on it, hard to say, maybe another anon can find it.
BOTTOM LINE: reframe this quote as:
"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." - A Fantastic Quote
Thanks for the in depth reply. Interesting that they would bother fact-checking a quote. Why? I think that the statement takes on a new, more powerful meaning if attributed to Orwell than some random dude so they do this to dull the impact.
Also worth pointing out that the fact check makes the unaware user believe that the statement itself isn't true and they have evidence to prove it. Actually they are only saying that Orwell can't be positively linked to having said it. This trick works since I'm betting a very small percentage of their users actually clicks the link to see WHY it's being flagged and just assumes the information is incorrect.
They are stupid, that's why. I've analyzed a lot of these 'fact-checks' and they always go off of something minor to block the whole thing.
Instead of putting a box over "George Orwell" they put it over the whole thing.
If someone signed it -anon it would probably leave them to attack the quote.
I recall there was one thing i saw before, about "Communist rules for revolution" the image was 'fact-checked to be false'. But when i looked at it, it focused completely on the little blurb someone added in. it didn't pay any heed to the fact that the rules were real, but as a result the whole thing got 'blurred out' for one thing that ws 'fact checked'.
It's the deceptive way to hide things they don't like.
So, if you're going to make something like this,, make sure the quote can be attributed to someone.. or verify.. maybe run it by their 'fact checkers' first, then edit out the lame little issue they have so it forces them to attempt to 'fact check' the content, in this case it would have been the quote.
I may use this in the future. i'll say "i heard a great quote 'The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.', what do you think of it?" and the leftist will run their fact checker and find it to be false, looking to attack it and see it was marked false due to orwell and get back to me thinking they're all smart saying "oh really? who said that?" Then i'lll say "Selwyn Duke did in the article <you posted>, but it's not about the author, it's about the quote, what do you think of it?" Just to get their huffy reaction and pithy ignorance.
dont shoot the messenger. If you can find where he said it use it. But if you want to say it, just be mindful that it may slog you down because idiots will be like "well i don't care about the quote i care more about who you attributed the quote to, it's not what they said, now i can dismiss everything you say". you know? stupid little prissy stuff like that.
They send me a message after I posted a comment about people thinking for themselves. Facebook said "your comment goes against our community standards." Wtf is this?
Keep pushing the narrative that “community standards” ought to be made by the community, not by a big corporation. Use their Orwellian language against them
It is hard for me to believe I have woken up in this world.
Every day it feels more and more surreal, more slimy, more sick.
Holding the line for goodness, serenity, holiness, and beauty.
One can get censored for quoting someone else's views on truth now?
That escalated quickly.
Answer: Irony.
Posted the same quote to my page.
Let's see if they do the same thing.
Status report?
So far it's been almost a day and there's been no "fact check".
digital book burning
Yep. Its almost like you can see the handful of employees standing around a 55 gallon metal burn barrel tossing in anything they find offensive. Like a bunch of hobos in a back alley but much more evil.
translated version of the "see why" link at: https://dpa-factchecking.com/belgium/201014-99-941226/
George Orwell is not the author of this sentence on the relationship between truth and society
10/14/2020, 01:52 PM (CEST)
British author George Orwell is said to have spoken about the link between society and truth. Her purported quote is shared on social media as follows: "The further a society gets from the truth, the more it hates those who say it ~ George Orwell." ( archived )
ASSESSMENT : There is no evidence that George Orwell expressed himself in these words.
FACTS : Although these words on posters, cards and other objects are attributed to George Orwell, it is impossible to find in what context or when the writer would have expressed himself thus. Even in University College London's large digital archive dedicated to the writer, there is not a single article with the words "truth" or "society" in English.
The Wikiquote platform identified this sentence among its “falsely attributed” quotes. The quote appeared in a 2009 blog post , without being linked to George Orwell. The phrase was associated with Orwell in a forum in 2011. The origin of the bogus quote remains unclear, however.
Quote-savvy blogger Gerald Krieghofer also took an interest in this alleged statement by Geroge Orwell and came to the same conclusions : Orwell is not the author of this sentence.
I did a basic search on it, hard to say, maybe another anon can find it.
BOTTOM LINE: reframe this quote as:
"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." - A Fantastic Quote
Thanks for the in depth reply. Interesting that they would bother fact-checking a quote. Why? I think that the statement takes on a new, more powerful meaning if attributed to Orwell than some random dude so they do this to dull the impact.
Also worth pointing out that the fact check makes the unaware user believe that the statement itself isn't true and they have evidence to prove it. Actually they are only saying that Orwell can't be positively linked to having said it. This trick works since I'm betting a very small percentage of their users actually clicks the link to see WHY it's being flagged and just assumes the information is incorrect.
I don't need to click "why" to know that facebooks factcheckers are filthy rotten communists.
Back when i was still on facebook abd getting fackchecked every day, i would click those links to see what they had to say.
Then id post that link to my profile, with a snarky one-liner about why i thought their fact checking was shit.
I dont think facebook knew how to handle it when you are posting links to their facechecking pages.
It was fun while it lasted
They are stupid, that's why. I've analyzed a lot of these 'fact-checks' and they always go off of something minor to block the whole thing.
Instead of putting a box over "George Orwell" they put it over the whole thing.
If someone signed it -anon it would probably leave them to attack the quote.
I recall there was one thing i saw before, about "Communist rules for revolution" the image was 'fact-checked to be false'. But when i looked at it, it focused completely on the little blurb someone added in. it didn't pay any heed to the fact that the rules were real, but as a result the whole thing got 'blurred out' for one thing that ws 'fact checked'.
It's the deceptive way to hide things they don't like.
So, if you're going to make something like this,, make sure the quote can be attributed to someone.. or verify.. maybe run it by their 'fact checkers' first, then edit out the lame little issue they have so it forces them to attempt to 'fact check' the content, in this case it would have been the quote.
No. That’s not why they censored that post. We need to stop giving these fuckers the benefit of the doubt.
It's a quote from Selwyn Duke, in a 2009 article defending Michael Savage.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/george_orwell_is_stealing_my_work.html
Edit:
Also, for people's future reference, Orwell also never wrote, "In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/02/24/truth-revolutionary/
Pretty much every quote can be challenged.
Rothschild was alleged to have said, “Let me control the nations money supply, and i care not who makes the laws”
Someone challenged me on that quote, and sure enough, it was impossible for me to prove.
I may use this in the future. i'll say "i heard a great quote 'The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it.', what do you think of it?" and the leftist will run their fact checker and find it to be false, looking to attack it and see it was marked false due to orwell and get back to me thinking they're all smart saying "oh really? who said that?" Then i'lll say "Selwyn Duke did in the article <you posted>, but it's not about the author, it's about the quote, what do you think of it?" Just to get their huffy reaction and pithy ignorance.
dont shoot the messenger. If you can find where he said it use it. But if you want to say it, just be mindful that it may slog you down because idiots will be like "well i don't care about the quote i care more about who you attributed the quote to, it's not what they said, now i can dismiss everything you say". you know? stupid little prissy stuff like that.
??
Next they'll be censoring us for saying 2+2=4
They tried that, actually. The woke idiots tried to argue that 2+2=5 sometimes.
... and math is racist.
It is correct.
Equity Math.
For real?
Yes.
Lmao of course they did.
Good thing it's all coming to a head. Everything is out in the open now, they have no cover.
What's the "independent fact checker's" reason(s) why?
I guess they just proved George Orwell’s sentiment quite nicely.
Great reply
Wow
As a kid I was a huge fan of The Prisoner. Few understood why. Future proves past, I guess.
(see The Prisoner episode "Change of Mind" if you want the 54-year preview edition of today's news...)
I recall watching it. OMG is it 54 years ago?
I have the entire series on HDD.
OK, watching that episode now.
see you did a wrongthink , you must be punished and censored
Hey John Adams is a pretty respected name in the world of silver and metals.
They send me a message after I posted a comment about people thinking for themselves. Facebook said "your comment goes against our community standards." Wtf is this?
Keep pushing the narrative that “community standards” ought to be made by the community, not by a big corporation. Use their Orwellian language against them
I said something similar....I'm with ya on this.
It’s official.
We have collectively fallen down the rabbit hole.
It is hard for me to believe I have woken up in this world.
Every day it feels more and more surreal, more slimy, more sick. Holding the line for goodness, serenity, holiness, and beauty.
It must hav claimed facebook is legit. Every account had a string straight to China.
I looked it up. Its scarey
How sad!
Their bots need a bit of work to hide the bias.
The irony in Facebook proving the quote accurate.
“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
1984 published in 1949; George Orwell dead 7 months later. Coincidence, no doubt.
You deserve everything you get if you're still participating on that platform. Same with Twitter. Walk away and stop being part of the problem.
Your objection to our decision has been recorded. Report to Room 101 for Opinion Adjustment.
At Facebook, they call this....Progress....
OK officially off the fucking rails!!!!!!