Poll: Unvaccinated Americans least concerned about Delta variant
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When a virus mutates it gets weaker. The Wuhan Flu has a 99.97999% survival rate so why would I worry about it's weaker mutant cousin, unless I was a brainless mutant Communist Democrat.
How can they prove there are variants when they cant even show us a complete isolated genome of the original? In fact, how can they prove this is a unique virus in the first place without a complete isolated genome?
They cant.
So, not disagreeing on principle, but your initial claim is false. Mutations of a virus can make it more or less lethal, or not change its lethality.
This is true but it less lethal but more infectious mutations out compete the more lethal mutations. So the overwhelming trend is to lower lethality. Not always just in the vast majority of cases.
The narrative around Delta is always about infectiousness and case counts, not overall lethality. Aka bullshit
Nor for pandemics. Every pandemic since records began has mutated to become more contagious and less deadly.
If you're talking about viruses in general, then yes, but again, a pandemic needs to become more contagious but less deadly to survive.
Natural selection forces viruses to become less lethal. More lethal varieties kill the host so that their lethal characteristics do not propagate.
I keep seeing this "mutations are less lethal". Where does this belief come from? Mutations are errors during sequence copying by the host cell. How do these errors occur? Why would it necessarily be "less lethal"? This virus hardly kills anyone to start with, so increasing lethality wouldn't inhibit the virus' "goal" of increasing its biomass, if you consider that the virus' goal.
I think it depends on what you read and how specific they make a statement. Generally speaking, if a virus is lethal it kills off its hosts and cannot transmit easily. It’s not a living thing. It’s genetic code that creates an immune response in the body. Let’s think about Covid I’m general. In the beginning China was “supposedly” stacking bodies. The earliest epicenters in the US had higher death rates in the most at risk people. Overtime that death rate relative to the number of cases has come down. The question is did an early mutation cause the virus deaths to spike or did a higher incidence of infection make it appear so? It’s sort of like the vaccines. Small sample sized trials “supposedly” looked ok. Now when used in higher numbers, problems look more common (I do think something is not right with them).
Be careful if you try to search for this. There’s a lot of “fact checkers” stating viruses do get worse and more deadly. But back in March 2020 CNN was saying viral mutations are normal and not a cause for concern. Here’s a good article with a level headed explanation: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/more-than-you-ever-wanted-to-know-about-viral-mutation/ I like the way it is presented. In general extremes resort to something more moderate in viral cycles. This is true. I suspect we are seeing this with the Delta variant.
Here an example of how this crap is being spun: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/07/instagram-posts/data-showing-lower-death-rate-coronavirus-delta-va/
Politifact is ranking the statement that a study shows the delta variant is 19 times less deadly. Their rationale isn’t the math, it’s that the sample size is too small. Yet, if we are too believe that mutations are more deadly, wouldn’t we see more deaths early on as the new strain becomes more prevalent.
Here is the actual report referenced in the article: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1001354/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_17.pdf
Actual Numbers: Alpha (Original): ~225k Cases w/ 1.9% death rate Delta: -92k cases w/ 0.1# death rate
Now the 92k number is actually not that small. In my simple mind, if the death rate was going to be higher, you’d see a trend emerge in a number that large. And it’s not like the Alpha case pool was 10 times larger either.
So… despite the fear mongering might we be seeing a less dangerous version of the virus taking hold? I suspect so. I also suspect that, as in Israel, you are going to see more problems with the vaccinated. I’m not sure why yet, except that Dr. Malone and Brett Weinstien’s theory that the mRNA vaccine spike protein is cytotoxic and causing problems might hold water.
I’m convinced Ivermectin is the key to making this go away. Yet it is being suppressed in favor of the vaccines, which do not look good in Israel at the moment (at least for the Delta). I also look at calls for more masks and lockdowns and suspect that they are rewriting history: convince the world that viruses DO get more deadly with time and force us to mask and hide in our homes again.
Think logically about this - if viruses got more lethal with time why is this the first pandemic in our lifetime? Shouldn’t it be the 100th? If we look at what we see and now what we are being told, deep down we all know something isn’t right.
A virus doesn't have a goal. Its is simply a "program" floating around until it enters a living cell and "hijacks" the cells' systems by incorporating its RNA/DNA into the host. Lethality decreases (the more lethal a virus, the more likely it kills its hosts and ends transmission to other hosts. The less lethal variants "survive" because they are weaker and DO NOT kill the host. Contagiousness and lethality are VERY different.
That's because unvaccinated American's are the people most likely to look at the data and the least likely to watch the news which lies about it.
It's not complicated.
a good cure for Covid is to turn off the TV. The best one is to never turn it on.
This. We wouldn't even know the virus' existence if we shut down the media and the internet, took off our masks and walked around outside like normal.
Unvaccinated and unafraid
Most of Politicos readers will not be with us a year from now
I'm afraid it will take 2-3 years
I thought we were supposed to have moved on to the next variant. Lambda or some such nonsense
Yes. And, recently heard about the 'Epsilon' varient. Or the 'California' varient. This article talks about it while pushing the experimental drug. Ugh
https://abc7.com/delta-variant-epsilon-vaccine-coronavirus-variants/10872667/
As an unvaccinated intelligent human, I am least concerned about anything or variant the msm i squawking about.
How do they come up with the number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths? Anyone can make up numbers and it would be too cumbersome for a normal person to try and verify these numbers.
I contacted two of my local hospitals and the only numbers they would give me are current cases. One didn't have any Covid admissions and the other had 2.
What happens when we get to Omega variant?
I saw this question come up in an interview between RFK Jr. and Naomi Wolf in the spring of this year. She pointed out this out:
Because we have a functioning brain and actually use it.
Fear is the disease. Worry is nothing but down payment t if fear so they can fuck off. I hope my vaxless body vexxes them.
I bet those same Americans think transgender women aren't women! REEEE
I always hear about new cases and not deaths. Why is that?
The only people concerned about catching the "variant" or covid for that matter are those who already got the vax. Let that sink in.
Exactly. How do they justify this to themselves?
"Hey, I just got vaccinated! I did my part! Here's my card!" #gotmyshot
"Hey, this new variant is kinda scary, yikes!" #putonyourmask
"Man, these unvaccinated are going to kill us all!" #fucktheunvaxxed
How the hell would the last 2 statements be a problem if the first statement works? Contradictions upon contradictions.
You can't apply logic to an group of people that are functionally retarded.
"68% of Americans have at least one dose of the vaccine.." yea. And Biden got 81 million votes. I mean FFS minors under 18 count as Americans, right?
Its true because those who are vaccinated are fear mongering sheep and they follow what the media tells them to do.
Biden wouldn’t know how to handleCovid if it smacked him in the face. Door to door now is his big plan, so he can put you in his non compliant data base. If the Delta variant were so strong and lethal, why would you have people going door to door?
Covid was fake to begin with. its the common cold. Everything came up covid. Flu season? Gone. Tuberculosis? Gone. Bronchitis? That was covid too.
They batched all these normal virus and cold as covid and cried pandemic when old people in nursing homes died which happens each year.
I'm of this opinion too but I'm not a virologist and I can admit when there are things I don't know the answer to. When people ask me if I think the virus is even real at this point, my answer is that for practical purposes, it doesn't matter whether COVID 19 and delta lambda variants exist or not. What is important is that we have therapeutics available that have proven to be up to 100% effective in preventing and up to over 80% effective in treating any strain of Coronavirus illness a person might contract. Literally, the flu, in all its forms, if treated early and properly is a non issue going forward in society so there is no justification for anyone to take any flu vaccine ever again.
https://odysee.com/@HandsFullOfHope:4/COVID-VAXX-CAUSES-HUGE-INJURY--DEATH-2021-07-06---PROF-DOLORES-CAHILL-VIDEO:a
At least MSM isn't saying "the deadlier and more contagious Delta variant"; I guess they have a faint trace of decency still in them. Yes, it's more contagious, but does the country make plans to shut down again over the common cold?
Sorda glad my governor is a criminal(cumo). He had to open the state back up to get the heat off him lol. Still so nice to see the faces of folks when I traveled by car to Nebraska after the fourth.
Of course. You need the Vax and a weak mind to catch it.
A what? Never heard of it.
Wait: claiming there is no isolated coronavirus is fine, but are you now claiming there are no viruses, at all?
Tell any normie this, “they don’t have isolated” … your conversation ends there. There is no amount of evidence you can show …