Yeah this, I mean knowing Shakespeare, Calculus, Physics, and Organic Chem is cool and all, but most kids don't give a crap and don't care to learn it. Just learning a skill and starting small businesses is how this country was built.
I think people should learn most of that stuff in high-school. If they really want to pursue the arts and culture they can, but most people don't need to.
I definitely think people should study the classics on their own, and there are plenty of resources to do so. A good teacher of classics will actually help you learn about the context of the author and the work, helping to make more sense of what you are reading, not filtering it through a shit feminist or racial lense. I had a teacher do this with me for Shakespeare, it helped clarify what he was trying to say through his plays.
These pompous idiots had this coming for a long time! When a college costs $5k in the mid 70s, $8k four years later, $12k late 80s and $50k in 2012, $60k today —tell me what changed for such a dramatic increase in price in a school that is still the same size, same programs and student life. True story from family going to the same school. Nothing changed just supply & demand allowed them to ask more.
What changed is government backed loans. College tuition skyrocketed once that program was fully in place. It's a racket, with the colleges/universities and the federal government as co-conspirators.
What she said⬆️ whenever the government gets involved the bureaucracy and corruption come right behind. And they wanted the government to get involved in medicine. We can now see how that is working out. Federal grants in science and medicine, corrupted a system whose very foundation was thought to be incorruptible because it was founded on truth and verifiable science. The government needs an enema.
Wow! I had a similar experience, the only difference being that my folks felt if their kids wanted a college education, the kids should pay for it. Fortunately, I attended college long enough ago that tuition was reasonable ($100 per term or semester), so I could pay for most of it with part-time jobs and a frugal lifestyle, and only had to borrow $2000.
Well my fren, the good news is you’re here, … imagine, you could’ve been pulled into a witchcraft rpg cult in uni, mixed with the wrong crowd, ended up with BLM bumper stickers and crocs for daily footwear 🙂
What changed is administrative bloat. There are legions of administrative positions, and sub-positions, and sub-sub-positions that simply did not exist before. These people make BANK. And there are less and less actual professors and relative to the private sector, we make less.
The main school I work at is simply not hiring a new faculty after one leaves or retires but your damn sure they are hiring dozens of newly created administrative roles every year, and again these are pricey jobs.
A school where I teach at as a side gig is most taught by adjuncts. For example the department I teach in there has 4 full time faculty and 70 adjuncts. The full timers make about 60 to 70k and the adjuncts get 2800 per course. Every administrative position at my main school starts at 6 figures and, more importantly, they don’t actually do anything. They come up with BS extra tasks for faculty to do so they can put it on their resume and get raises/promotions or to move up to another school.
So, to answer your question, the extra costs of college are going to enrich the leeches that comprise the ever increasing administrative offices that exist now in pretty much all higher ed institutions. Added bonus, the quality of teaching has gone down with it, so you actually pay more to get less. But think about it, if you were getting paid 2800 for a course that you teach 2 or 3 times a week for 4 months, very few would be actually motivated enough to put out real genuine effort worthy of a 60k tuition bill.
I went to a state university back in the early '90's. The most I paid for a semester of classes was $600. $600 for the whole semester. Today's prices for classes is highway robbery.
You say this like it's a bad thing. Colleges are nothing more than a ponzi scheme for psuedo intellectual communists. Go into trades whether it's for plumbing or gunsmithing. Hell im talking small gunsmithing courses.
I think they should be torn down and not rebuilt. If a job wasn’t around in 1776 we don’t need it now. Higher education hasn’t produced anything other than leftists, faggots and pedophiles and turned our women into sluts who “need” contraception.
I have to disagree, the collection of higher level experts in various disciplines into a University was once one of three greatest things to happen to humanity. Tremendous amounts of technological advancements were made. The problem was bringing in the Arts. There should be a separate college for arts. MIT has weathered the woke revolution surprisingly well. Not nearly as infiltrated as other schools with large non-science departments. All these things were corrupted over time. Pseudo-intellectualism has rotted the system. Tear them apart, destroy and discard the rot and rebuild. More MIT like schools with Trades integrated would be a highly successful model. All classes should be monitored to ensure quality of education by the students and reviewed by independent bodies to ensure school educational ratings.
My oldest has a Masters but he’s a priest. My oldest daughter is a corrections officer and loves it. She has a associate. My two youngest both went to technical college in high school and at 18 and 19 both are employed full time with no student loans.
Community college enrollment was the hardest hit, accounting for 65% of lost enrollment or 476,000 students, said NPR. Community colleges enroll more low-income students and students of color than other colleges, making this trend worrisome.
The silver lining:
1: people going straight to real world and skipping college
2: telework becoming more popular
3: more homeschooling and charter schools, less indoctrination
4: more mistrust of gov policy and politicians as well as more patriots getting involved in school boards.
5: platforms that teach skills exploding in popularity(masterclass, skillshare, etc.)
I'm wondering, are you Mormon? Not that it matters to me, really. And I'm not trying to bash you for it. I was once Mormon, and also a Baptist and Lutheran at one point. But, I've seen more than one post from you with a link to the Mormon News Agency known as Deseret. Really, I'm just curious.
If you are, might I suggest going down that rabbit hole, if you haven't already?
I hope it doubles next year and then again the year after. We need to fire the woke professors and make them get a real job. Actually on second thought we should just deport them to Venezuela or North Korea. Let them live the communist life without bothering our young people. Close the most liberal colleges and re-open with new administrators and curriculum specialized in specific areas of training, without the woke bullshit. Like community colleges but with advanced hands on training in engineering, technical medicine, specialized care, information systems, data communications, business systems, etc.
I'm wondering, are you Mormon? Not that it matters to me, really. And I'm not trying to bash you for it. I was once Mormon, and also a Baptist and Lutheran at one point. But, I've seen more than one post from you with a link to the Mormon News Agency known as Deseret. Really, I'm just curious.
If you are, might I suggest going down that rabbit hole, if you haven't already?
I’m in this boat. Won’t go to college, 90% of the time the math doesn’t add up, the debt to reward ratio. That’s comparing to things that are generally seen as “riskier”, like going into the private sector.
Student loans should only be for careers that make an impact: chemists, engineers, computer, accounting, architecture, etc. If someone wants a degree in Non-binary primate Social Symbolism, Medieval Feminism or Transism Ism Inequality Isms, well, pay it all out of their pockets.
Trades. It is time for people to learn practical knowledge.
Yeah this, I mean knowing Shakespeare, Calculus, Physics, and Organic Chem is cool and all, but most kids don't give a crap and don't care to learn it. Just learning a skill and starting small businesses is how this country was built.
I think people should learn most of that stuff in high-school. If they really want to pursue the arts and culture they can, but most people don't need to.
I definitely think people should study the classics on their own, and there are plenty of resources to do so. A good teacher of classics will actually help you learn about the context of the author and the work, helping to make more sense of what you are reading, not filtering it through a shit feminist or racial lense. I had a teacher do this with me for Shakespeare, it helped clarify what he was trying to say through his plays.
Hillsdale.edu has free online lessons in the classics, the Constitution, American history, world history, and many others. Highly recommend.
Youtube videos plus reading the book = no need for libtard professors
Also critical race theory
These pompous idiots had this coming for a long time! When a college costs $5k in the mid 70s, $8k four years later, $12k late 80s and $50k in 2012, $60k today —tell me what changed for such a dramatic increase in price in a school that is still the same size, same programs and student life. True story from family going to the same school. Nothing changed just supply & demand allowed them to ask more.
What changed is government backed loans. College tuition skyrocketed once that program was fully in place. It's a racket, with the colleges/universities and the federal government as co-conspirators.
What she said⬆️ whenever the government gets involved the bureaucracy and corruption come right behind. And they wanted the government to get involved in medicine. We can now see how that is working out. Federal grants in science and medicine, corrupted a system whose very foundation was thought to be incorruptible because it was founded on truth and verifiable science. The government needs an enema.
Wow! I had a similar experience, the only difference being that my folks felt if their kids wanted a college education, the kids should pay for it. Fortunately, I attended college long enough ago that tuition was reasonable ($100 per term or semester), so I could pay for most of it with part-time jobs and a frugal lifestyle, and only had to borrow $2000.
Well my fren, the good news is you’re here, … imagine, you could’ve been pulled into a witchcraft rpg cult in uni, mixed with the wrong crowd, ended up with BLM bumper stickers and crocs for daily footwear 🙂
University professor here.
What changed is administrative bloat. There are legions of administrative positions, and sub-positions, and sub-sub-positions that simply did not exist before. These people make BANK. And there are less and less actual professors and relative to the private sector, we make less.
The main school I work at is simply not hiring a new faculty after one leaves or retires but your damn sure they are hiring dozens of newly created administrative roles every year, and again these are pricey jobs.
A school where I teach at as a side gig is most taught by adjuncts. For example the department I teach in there has 4 full time faculty and 70 adjuncts. The full timers make about 60 to 70k and the adjuncts get 2800 per course. Every administrative position at my main school starts at 6 figures and, more importantly, they don’t actually do anything. They come up with BS extra tasks for faculty to do so they can put it on their resume and get raises/promotions or to move up to another school.
So, to answer your question, the extra costs of college are going to enrich the leeches that comprise the ever increasing administrative offices that exist now in pretty much all higher ed institutions. Added bonus, the quality of teaching has gone down with it, so you actually pay more to get less. But think about it, if you were getting paid 2800 for a course that you teach 2 or 3 times a week for 4 months, very few would be actually motivated enough to put out real genuine effort worthy of a 60k tuition bill.
I went to a state university back in the early '90's. The most I paid for a semester of classes was $600. $600 for the whole semester. Today's prices for classes is highway robbery.
That is an unmitigated win.
The forces causing it? Malign, to be sure. But ditching the frivolous, beyond-corrupt post-secondary university system is great news.
I would call it "the best decline in a decade"
Beat me to it
That is great news. People waking up. I love it.
You say this like it's a bad thing. Colleges are nothing more than a ponzi scheme for psuedo intellectual communists. Go into trades whether it's for plumbing or gunsmithing. Hell im talking small gunsmithing courses.
I think they should be torn down and not rebuilt. If a job wasn’t around in 1776 we don’t need it now. Higher education hasn’t produced anything other than leftists, faggots and pedophiles and turned our women into sluts who “need” contraception.
1776? Really? You know you have all your knowledge about all this due to the internet?
I have to disagree, the collection of higher level experts in various disciplines into a University was once one of three greatest things to happen to humanity. Tremendous amounts of technological advancements were made. The problem was bringing in the Arts. There should be a separate college for arts. MIT has weathered the woke revolution surprisingly well. Not nearly as infiltrated as other schools with large non-science departments. All these things were corrupted over time. Pseudo-intellectualism has rotted the system. Tear them apart, destroy and discard the rot and rebuild. More MIT like schools with Trades integrated would be a highly successful model. All classes should be monitored to ensure quality of education by the students and reviewed by independent bodies to ensure school educational ratings.
GET WOKE.
GO BROKE!
Make High School Great Again.
Start at elementary, then middle, then high school. Make it all Great Again!
My oldest has a Masters but he’s a priest. My oldest daughter is a corrections officer and loves it. She has a associate. My two youngest both went to technical college in high school and at 18 and 19 both are employed full time with no student loans.
My two youngest are adopted from China. I’m very proud of them.
700,000 fewer indoctrinated
Yeah. Who needs to go to college when as ll you do is read books anyway.
Worrisome, because EVERYTHING is about race!
The silver lining: 1: people going straight to real world and skipping college 2: telework becoming more popular 3: more homeschooling and charter schools, less indoctrination 4: more mistrust of gov policy and politicians as well as more patriots getting involved in school boards. 5: platforms that teach skills exploding in popularity(masterclass, skillshare, etc.)
You forgot how to fight. Were not gonna take it.
I'm wondering, are you Mormon? Not that it matters to me, really. And I'm not trying to bash you for it. I was once Mormon, and also a Baptist and Lutheran at one point. But, I've seen more than one post from you with a link to the Mormon News Agency known as Deseret. Really, I'm just curious.
If you are, might I suggest going down that rabbit hole, if you haven't already?
I hope it doubles next year and then again the year after. We need to fire the woke professors and make them get a real job. Actually on second thought we should just deport them to Venezuela or North Korea. Let them live the communist life without bothering our young people. Close the most liberal colleges and re-open with new administrators and curriculum specialized in specific areas of training, without the woke bullshit. Like community colleges but with advanced hands on training in engineering, technical medicine, specialized care, information systems, data communications, business systems, etc.
What about the supply of gender-study majors? Diversity deans? Climate change scientists? Sociology majors? What will we do without a steady supply?
I'm wondering, are you Mormon? Not that it matters to me, really. And I'm not trying to bash you for it. I was once Mormon, and also a Baptist and Lutheran at one point. But, I've seen more than one post from you with a link to the Mormon News Agency known as Deseret. Really, I'm just curious.
If you are, might I suggest going down that rabbit hole, if you haven't already?
I’m in this boat. Won’t go to college, 90% of the time the math doesn’t add up, the debt to reward ratio. That’s comparing to things that are generally seen as “riskier”, like going into the private sector.
Good. College campuses have become nothing more than Leftist Indoctrination Camps.
Why pay full tuition for online learning?
Yesss!
Student loans should only be for careers that make an impact: chemists, engineers, computer, accounting, architecture, etc. If someone wants a degree in Non-binary primate Social Symbolism, Medieval Feminism or Transism Ism Inequality Isms, well, pay it all out of their pockets.
wasn't the intention to destroy, what am I missing?
Vaccine is being mandated for students
Just say NO to gender studies, SJW, virtue signaling, CRT, adult coloring books, student debt and walk away.
^^^ yes!