I tell them I will make an informed choice when the trials are complete in 2023 to provide adequate risk information. So far has been successful in preventing any coherent rebuttals.
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I'm going with "I can't due to health reasons" .. .like wanting to stay healthy and not die.
Lol.
I watched a bunch of Leftist in real time have this conversation:
One announces, "I'm getting vaxxed new week! I'm so, SO excited."
Others, "Yay! Congratulations to you! I can't wait for my last shot!"
"It will be such a relief. Once I'm vaxxed I can't get COVID anymore!" the Lefty pauses, frowning as another thought occurs, "Of course, we still have to mask, social distance, and avoid touching because you can get variants."
Other Leftists, "That's true! You can still get Covid variants even if you get vaccinated."
Then a heavy silence as they realize what they just admitted.
The Lefty quickly says, "But... um... if you vaxx... you um... you won't die of Covid!"
"Right! That's true. You won't die of Covid if you get vaccinated. But we still have to mask and social distance to avoid getting it even if it won't kill us."
Another heavy pause as they realize what they just admitted. The hamster in their heads is running furiously to rationalize this.
Then the Lefty says, "Well, even if the variant can't kill us because we're vaxxed the unvaccinated can still die so we have to mask and social distance to prevent them getting sick."
Others, "That's true! We have to vax to protect the unvaxxed."
Then they mull over this and conclude the unvaxxed are selfish for not vaccinating, following rules on masking or social distance. When the conversation comes back they say:
"I really hate those people with vaccine hesitancy. I am sick of having to wear a mask because they're too stupid to get vaccinated. I wish they would catch the variant and die of covid!"
Another pause as they realized what they admitted.
I can't say it was the most insane conversation I've ever heard, but it's up there.
There must have been a moderate in the mix. A true leftist would never say, "That's true! We have to vax to protect the unvaxxed," unless they modified it by saying, "You know, the immuno-compromised and the children who can't get vaccines."
It was online discussion so when I say "Others" I'm combining messages. I don't think there is a "true" leftists. There are the narcissists who quickly change their wording to take whatever will causes division. Many confuse those.
The "protect the unvaxxed" didn't last very long. He said that and they quickly agreed with whatever he said, then realized slowly what he said and didn't like that part. After that they guided him back to "unvaxxed are selfish".
It's more of a hive mind. One member of the hive says something that isn't in agreement with the hive thinking so they "agree" at first then coax him back to the correct thinking. It's subtle and unnoticed.
You see it all the time with them. If someone strongly rejects the hive-thinking he'll be pushed out, but if he said something by mistake that wasn't in agreement they'll agree at first and nudge him slowly back to what he should think.
Hive mind thinks: Coffee is racist.
Member of hive says, "We have to treat coffee the same as tea."
Hive mind goes, "That's true. You're right," then later comes back and gently says, "But tea and coffee aren't the same. Coffee is racist, you know."
Member falls in line and says, "Coffee is racist."
They only get harsh if you defy the Hive. If you just slipped up they'll guide you back slowly. You won't even notice.
So I'd say it wasn't the case of a moderate in the mix. It was more of he unknowingly said an idea that wasn't in line and they took their time to bring him back to the correct thinking."
This was a great articulation of exactly how this social control mechanism works. I wish more people had gotten the opportunity to read it.
Thinking the same thing. This is astute observation
Can i borrow this? Thats great info. Proves they have no logic. Only justification for what they do or say.
Do you mean post somewhere else? If it's not on this forum just crop out my username and it's fine.
I wouldn't classify that as a conversation. More like group maturation.
I just ask them "Are you my Doctor?".
When I said this to a boomer woman who was raving about the vaccines, she said, "Well vaccines have been around for decades, therefore this one is safe too!"
I said, "This one is NEW, only 6 months old, so it must be tested for several years before getting a full FDA approval."
She said, "Well it got an EMERGENCY approval so that's all it needs."
I said, "No, that just means that they didn't do the trials for this on animals, so really, WE are the guinea pigs."
She said, "It doesn't matter, BECAUSE IT'S SAVING LIVES!"
I asked, "Can you give me an exact number? Which lives? Older people or kids? Or people who are willfully unhealthy to start with? Why is YOUR health MY responsibility?"
She blanched and completely blanked at that, staring into my eyes like I had just told her to commit suicide. She had absolutely no response and I could tell the 2 brain cells left in her head were melting.
They have done tests on mRna.. and they all died. the kids and the animals.
I tell them "I got the REAL vaccine, not that sterilization shot they're giving everyone else.". 😕
Just tell them you want “standard of care” and if vaccines arent part of the standard of care then they can buzz off
Anyone vaccinated me with out my consent better hope indie. I will find them and take them away from this world.
They can legally own that hospital with the right lawyer
my reply actually is 'fuck no'
I'm in the control group.
I don't participate in rushed medical trials of gene therapy with a never before used function in humans with no manufacturer liability over a illness that's never been proven to exist... For FREE!
Shockingly, even medical types don't know it's still in trial. They actually think it's been tested as safe and affective and it's FDA approved. And you can't tell them differently. They can't believe they're wrong.
I am part of this experiment gone wonky, you know, The CONTROL GROUP 😎
I tell them I’ve had covid already & that I’ve had worse hangovers. Then I mention how it’s still an experimental vax & that I’ve never had a flu vax either.
I am part of this experiment gone wonky, you know, The CONTROL GROUP 😎
My answer is simple "No"
"I'm gonna see how it goes first."
2023? Lol. Im waiting 10 years fuck that
I'm going with, I already tested positive for COVID and kicked its ass like 99.8% of the rest of us. So I have the natural antibodies.
l think l'm going to cheese it and say l'm planning on getting it on the 31st of September. Check your calendars, lel.
I’m waiting til Smarch, at the earliest.
I’m immunized
"I have not yet believed on Dr Fauci as my lord and savior."
I think you mean 2032
Trials will be complete when ever they want them to be
I could just show them my 2G Nokia phone and they might understand I don't really feel compelled to get the latest thing to fit in.
I just say Hell No.
"My doctor said i can't"
or
"I have zero obligation to answer that invasive question"