Who says inspectors can walk on your private property. Lock them out with the mask up faggots. If selling is the problem we got around that in my town. Just have a suggested donation per pound
One of the problems they are going to have is competing against the established meat processing plants that are already using underpaid, illegal aliens to do the work.
We already know that government agents involved in regulating the meat industry are corrupt. The question is how much more corrupt can they be?
I found a local rancher where I live and contacted them to buy meat directly from them. It was not cheaper. I knew it wasn't going to be cheaper but I did it anyways. I got fresher beef, I created a relationship with the rancher family and supported my local community instead of big business.
On average I think I paid about $4 or $5 per pound. Good price for the steaks but horrible price for the ground beef.
People just have to be willing to understand where the value is in that transaction.
I buy from a local meat company and their motto is “friends dont let friends buy meat from a grocery stores.”
I have been buying from them for almost 10 years now, and before inflation, they give the best deal, but with inflation, I will continue to support them.
They usually have the option of 1/4, 1/2 or a whole. Generally they will do what I want and just combine orders with other people. One time they did say I could only get a quarter unless I wanted a whole. I am ok with it though. They slaughter twice a year in general and as long as I know that I can be prepared.
That sounds like something I heard of up Montana way. I’m in KS and the last I knew the private butchers could only butcher an animal for the owner here.
We’d love to sell someone an animal, we’re proud of our animals. But, here every private locker is booked up for almost 2 years.
We’d have to schedule a butcher date for a calf that doesn’t exist on a handshake.
On that if anyone can get a butcher date for next Aug/Nov, I’ve got 100 yearlings I’ll sell.
If supply chain fucks off like I'm hoping. There won't be anymore competing if they can't get meat to your or continue to pay their little illegals. Your left with only your community for reliance. I say we get ahead of the race and have our grocery stores begin to have farmers bring food to be gifted upon a donation. Wean the customers from all mainstream name brand Meat veggies fruits. Hell grandma have a good reason to pick up canning again if I'd take em to the grocery store to barter with.
Problem we are seeing around here (mid west) is more and more farm land is being sold off and housing additions are springing up everywhere. More schools, higher taxes...yadda, yadda, yadda.
Rabbits, chickens in back yard too. I got the idea for rabbits from Julia Child who raised meat rabbits when her husband was assigned to France for the embassy.
This, there is no resisting mega-corps who control a corrupt government.
There is a reason why the entire economy is consolidating down into the hands of like 50 people. They know how to use the State and its corrupt agents to kill off their competition.
And if somehow these ranchers resist the inspectors, they will not resist the FBI who will be sent out to kill them.
Ranchers are hard targets. If the FBI comes for them, they'll take casualties. If they do a midnight raid to take one of the boss's men, there's a good chance they'll be ambushed on one of the roads out of the area and killed. What you're talking about is a classic scenario of how insurrections start. Cattle ranchers have their own world they live in. And the Feds aren't welcome there.
Open your own processing plants, and sell/ship directly to the consumer. There is a big market now for grass fed, unadulterated food. We do not trust the government to not mess with the food supply chain.
If you don’t already support local ranchers I encourage you to begin. You don’t have to purchase a whole cow. They sell halves, quarters, and eighths. You can get the meat processed and packaged the way you like. Around here we call it getting a freezer beef.
Example: a 1200lb steer dresses out let’s say average 750lbs, and yields about 500lbs bone-in meat cuts. Half of that 200-something lbs of beef will easily fit in a small chest freezer and provide burger/steaks/roasts/ribs for a year. Half a freezer beef works great for lots of folks.
Know where/how your meat was raised, and cut evil corps like Tyson/cargill out. My local farmers work with a local butcher/processor. I choose the amount I want, how I want it packages (2 steaks pr package, ect 3lb roasts, 2lbs ground beef chubs,) write a check and pick up a big box of frozen-packaged beef from the butcher a few weeks later. Win. Win.
I just got a half a steer ($410 lbs) last week for my family. I paid $3.02/lb for top grade beef, including local processing. Win/win/win for me, the famer, and processor. The meat is far better than anything I've gotten from the store.
We are getting into Irish Dexters... they are smaller, friendlier, easy on pastures and fences, etc. (I've heard them called the Golden Retrievers of the cow world.) They are great as dairy cows and for meat - the ratio of waste between a butchered Dexter and a huge Angus is amazingly in the Dexter's favor. If you don't want or need a huge cow, I'd encourage you (the home grower) to consider a miniature breed. (If you think you can't live without Angus, look into American Aberdeen.)
I do butcher my own meat birds. I'd like to learn how to butcher my own cattle, too.
Yes the meat processors created a meat buying monopoly or oligopy. Then those middlemen buyers could work together to put downward pressure on the wholesale prices for cattle.
It’s similar to the way Walmart put downward pressure on the prices for anyone wanting to be a Walmart supplier.
The really sick thing is when these monopolies are oligopolies capture the regulators. Like in the pharmaceutical industry where you see former CEOs or other executives going back-and-forth between positions in pharmaceutical companies and positions in the FDA or CDC.
I wonder how far back this goes. I mean the railroads we’re a monopoly...so was gas..telephone ....then they “break” up but it seems like it’s the same guys that just moved on to monopolize some new tech again but this time they don’t do it themselves but via “capital investments”. Always making the big bucks and when the market saturated they let the little guys” compete”. But are they little guys or just “controlled competitors”?
I got tired of saying the same thing over and over, but I saw it as an opportunity to educate some folks on what really goes on from the rancher's point of view.
People see inefficiency in the free market (ranchers feel they aren't getting their fair share of rising beef costs)
People set up their business to compete with big business and do it better (ranchers form their own processing plant)
Which is their God-given, Constitutionally protected right, and the greatest blessing of the free market
Big business gets threatened, so they convince Congress and the Regulators to raise the regulatory burden such that the big business can comply, but the new kids on the block get shut down
Nothing changes, and those who tried to make the world a better place get punished
Make safety inspectors a state run agency, Just like Gov. of Fla. did with critical theory, and link up with several states and have a line of demarcation some have with other issues.( I mean hey, the judges are going to flip it back an forth but you still have to try)
Damn, beef, chicken, and pork prices are hiking up more each time I go to the grocery. Beef is almost to expensive to buy, even hamburger. Chicken breasts are scarce to find as well.
Man, fuck Cargill. I lived in Cedar Rapids for a few years and whenever the wind blew from the direction of their corn syrup plant, it smelled like vomit all day...
Feral pigs if u live n south. Super lean. Too lean really. I dont like the flavor as much as beef but we will figure it out as how to better blend, grind and cook. Not starvin like the cabal wants. Fuck Biden!
They are running out in England as well. Pay a.little more locally for your cur of meat.. Increase the job market instantly up and down the Quantum ladder.
I bought Lonesome Dove when it first came out. I love to read, but won't waste my time on crap. I got maybe a third of the way through the book and threw it in the trash.
The ranchers are speaking of the low price paid to them for the cattle, which it is. And perhaps having their own operation will allow them to cut out a lot of the middleman cost add-ons, in which case their price at the store could be cheaper than even what we were paying when things were normal.
Hmm, let me guess what will happen.
Prediction: Food inspectors and plant safety inspectors will be bribed in order to shut down rancher run meat processing plants.
Who says inspectors can walk on your private property. Lock them out with the mask up faggots. If selling is the problem we got around that in my town. Just have a suggested donation per pound
One of the problems they are going to have is competing against the established meat processing plants that are already using underpaid, illegal aliens to do the work.
We already know that government agents involved in regulating the meat industry are corrupt. The question is how much more corrupt can they be?
I found a local rancher where I live and contacted them to buy meat directly from them. It was not cheaper. I knew it wasn't going to be cheaper but I did it anyways. I got fresher beef, I created a relationship with the rancher family and supported my local community instead of big business.
On average I think I paid about $4 or $5 per pound. Good price for the steaks but horrible price for the ground beef.
People just have to be willing to understand where the value is in that transaction.
Esp after one of those elite parties....
I buy from a local meat company and their motto is “friends dont let friends buy meat from a grocery stores.”
I have been buying from them for almost 10 years now, and before inflation, they give the best deal, but with inflation, I will continue to support them.
The problem selling straight to the normal person, is nobody wants to take a whole animal.
Then, if you have spring calves, you need to know who wants what in Jan/Feb to have a calf, that was born a year ago, ready to butcher by Aug/Sep.
They usually have the option of 1/4, 1/2 or a whole. Generally they will do what I want and just combine orders with other people. One time they did say I could only get a quarter unless I wanted a whole. I am ok with it though. They slaughter twice a year in general and as long as I know that I can be prepared.
That sounds like something I heard of up Montana way. I’m in KS and the last I knew the private butchers could only butcher an animal for the owner here.
We’d love to sell someone an animal, we’re proud of our animals. But, here every private locker is booked up for almost 2 years.
We’d have to schedule a butcher date for a calf that doesn’t exist on a handshake.
On that if anyone can get a butcher date for next Aug/Nov, I’ve got 100 yearlings I’ll sell.
We need more butchers. There is an industry waiting to happen.
That's how my parents did it as well. Their order would be combined with others to make up a whole cow.
That's not a problem. It's easy as shit. Same customers every year
I buy a half cow for my wife and I, last time i split it with my son MD his family
You can buy a cow and have it processed. Find people to split it and share the cost. If you live in an area with cows this is a win.
The problem is finding an area with a slaughter house.
Cattle are everywhere.
Ground beef is $7 a pound where I live.
I have been buying the 90/10% from Sam's Club, and it's now almost $5 a lb now. It has been just under $3.50 lb. It comes packaged around $25-30 now.
If supply chain fucks off like I'm hoping. There won't be anymore competing if they can't get meat to your or continue to pay their little illegals. Your left with only your community for reliance. I say we get ahead of the race and have our grocery stores begin to have farmers bring food to be gifted upon a donation. Wean the customers from all mainstream name brand Meat veggies fruits. Hell grandma have a good reason to pick up canning again if I'd take em to the grocery store to barter with.
Problem we are seeing around here (mid west) is more and more farm land is being sold off and housing additions are springing up everywhere. More schools, higher taxes...yadda, yadda, yadda.
form a co-op
raise quail (TAMU coturnix quail are bred for this)
You can just about do this in an apartment
Get some quail eggs scissors for the eggs.
About 5 quail eggs = 1 chicken egg.
Get an incubator -- hatch 50-100 at a time
9 weeks from egg to laying an egg
You can eat the birds
purest curiousity; is quail as gamey as duck? My great grandmother made duck one time, and let me try it as a kid.
I ate one bite and was done, lol.
Also, the Coturnix quail are naturally tame enough to be pets.,
especially the TAMU Coturnix. It's like a micro-chicken
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/93/5a/98/935a98f5a0c979e5b2979afe67b9ed6d.jpg
aww, they look like if kittens were birds, lol.
IMO quail is not as gamey as a duck.
A lot of it comes from the animals diet.
I can even taste the difference in the eggs.
The trick is to get the meat tender, like soaking it in brine.
Some grocery store chicken has treatment done to it.
Kids love little fried quail eggs. You need to get quail egg scissors to open them easily.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6802654295_e01d72bccb_z.jpg
huh. They look like first year chicken eggs. (fun fact, the older your chickens get, the bigger the eggs get (to a point, obviously, lol)
My grandmother used to raise chickens, and when the chickens got older, they'd start laying eggs with two yolks, lol.
The TAMU Coturnix quail lay a bunch of eggs. I do get some double yolkers.
I can get a new generation in 9 weeks.
My parents tried to "sell" us on something called "city chicken"....it was awful...later found out it was rabbit!
well...If you were desperate for meat, i guess... =/
Rabbits, chickens in back yard too. I got the idea for rabbits from Julia Child who raised meat rabbits when her husband was assigned to France for the embassy.
Yeah, my thought was that they won't have an easy row to hoe, but I surely do applaud their efforts.
This, there is no resisting mega-corps who control a corrupt government.
There is a reason why the entire economy is consolidating down into the hands of like 50 people. They know how to use the State and its corrupt agents to kill off their competition.
And if somehow these ranchers resist the inspectors, they will not resist the FBI who will be sent out to kill them.
Ranchers are hard targets. If the FBI comes for them, they'll take casualties. If they do a midnight raid to take one of the boss's men, there's a good chance they'll be ambushed on one of the roads out of the area and killed. What you're talking about is a classic scenario of how insurrections start. Cattle ranchers have their own world they live in. And the Feds aren't welcome there.
Or the herds will get some weird virus.
There is no inspection if you are butchering other peoples live meat.
If u butcher your own or resale then you need to be inspected by FDA.
Open your own processing plants, and sell/ship directly to the consumer. There is a big market now for grass fed, unadulterated food. We do not trust the government to not mess with the food supply chain.
If you don’t already support local ranchers I encourage you to begin. You don’t have to purchase a whole cow. They sell halves, quarters, and eighths. You can get the meat processed and packaged the way you like. Around here we call it getting a freezer beef.
freezer beef info
Example: a 1200lb steer dresses out let’s say average 750lbs, and yields about 500lbs bone-in meat cuts. Half of that 200-something lbs of beef will easily fit in a small chest freezer and provide burger/steaks/roasts/ribs for a year. Half a freezer beef works great for lots of folks.
Know where/how your meat was raised, and cut evil corps like Tyson/cargill out. My local farmers work with a local butcher/processor. I choose the amount I want, how I want it packages (2 steaks pr package, ect 3lb roasts, 2lbs ground beef chubs,) write a check and pick up a big box of frozen-packaged beef from the butcher a few weeks later. Win. Win.
I just got a half a steer ($410 lbs) last week for my family. I paid $3.02/lb for top grade beef, including local processing. Win/win/win for me, the famer, and processor. The meat is far better than anything I've gotten from the store.
I think this is great news.
We are getting into Irish Dexters... they are smaller, friendlier, easy on pastures and fences, etc. (I've heard them called the Golden Retrievers of the cow world.) They are great as dairy cows and for meat - the ratio of waste between a butchered Dexter and a huge Angus is amazingly in the Dexter's favor. If you don't want or need a huge cow, I'd encourage you (the home grower) to consider a miniature breed. (If you think you can't live without Angus, look into American Aberdeen.)
I do butcher my own meat birds. I'd like to learn how to butcher my own cattle, too.
Low beef prices? I'm paying 3x more than I did last year.
Low beef prices refers to what the ranchers are being paid per pound for cattle.
Yes the meat processors created a meat buying monopoly or oligopy. Then those middlemen buyers could work together to put downward pressure on the wholesale prices for cattle.
It’s similar to the way Walmart put downward pressure on the prices for anyone wanting to be a Walmart supplier.
Antitrust...somewhere along the way this term left our justice system. Or was it ever there.
The really sick thing is when these monopolies are oligopolies capture the regulators. Like in the pharmaceutical industry where you see former CEOs or other executives going back-and-forth between positions in pharmaceutical companies and positions in the FDA or CDC.
I wonder how far back this goes. I mean the railroads we’re a monopoly...so was gas..telephone ....then they “break” up but it seems like it’s the same guys that just moved on to monopolize some new tech again but this time they don’t do it themselves but via “capital investments”. Always making the big bucks and when the market saturated they let the little guys” compete”. But are they little guys or just “controlled competitors”?
I got tired of saying the same thing over and over, but I saw it as an opportunity to educate some folks on what really goes on from the rancher's point of view.
How about no income tax for workers producing for citizen products???
This story is getting old
It won’t work.... they’ll just have banned all cows by then....!
WWG1WGA
Hell ya, we’ll do it ourselves! Fugg Joe Biden!
Where do I invest?
Make safety inspectors a state run agency, Just like Gov. of Fla. did with critical theory, and link up with several states and have a line of demarcation some have with other issues.( I mean hey, the judges are going to flip it back an forth but you still have to try)
Damn, beef, chicken, and pork prices are hiking up more each time I go to the grocery. Beef is almost to expensive to buy, even hamburger. Chicken breasts are scarce to find as well.
Man, fuck Cargill. I lived in Cedar Rapids for a few years and whenever the wind blew from the direction of their corn syrup plant, it smelled like vomit all day...
I pray they succeed and it starts a movement to end monopolies.
I would shift 100% of my meat buying to a local butcher if I could.
Feral pigs if u live n south. Super lean. Too lean really. I dont like the flavor as much as beef but we will figure it out as how to better blend, grind and cook. Not starvin like the cabal wants. Fuck Biden!
They are running out in England as well. Pay a.little more locally for your cur of meat.. Increase the job market instantly up and down the Quantum ladder.
MEAT PRODUCERS: No we do NOT want plant meat. just 100% REAL meat.
Zero Bioengineered Crap.
Low beef prices?
Where?
At the market where the ranchers sell their cattle. The price per pound to them bears very little relationship to what you pay at the store.
25 bucks a pound for a ribeye is low?
The price per pound paid to ranchers is the price that's very low. What you pay at the store is a whole other matter.
Seems unfair. If gas goes up the barrel sellers make more money
The price per pound paid to ranchers is the price that's very low. What you pay at the store is a whole other matter.
WTF low beef prices. They told us here in Canada beef was going up 13% but it went up almost 50%. Where the hell are there low beef prices.
The ranchers are referring to what they're paid per pound for cattle they sell on the hoof, not what you pay in stores.
I bought Lonesome Dove when it first came out. I love to read, but won't waste my time on crap. I got maybe a third of the way through the book and threw it in the trash.
The price per pound paid to ranchers is the price that's very low. What you pay at the store is a whole other matter.
The ranchers are speaking of the low price paid to them for the cattle, which it is. And perhaps having their own operation will allow them to cut out a lot of the middleman cost add-ons, in which case their price at the store could be cheaper than even what we were paying when things were normal.
Likely, but I hope they find a way to overcome them.