I thought the refusal was based on the fact that the mandate is patently unconstitutional, and that OSHA is in violation of two court orders to desist.
nah its based on 'these soldiers are not under federal command right now'.
Except that feds could say 'we activate Oklahoma's National Guard for shits and giggles... your only orders "Get Vaccinated", at any point
Do the commanders of the OKNG refuse reasonable and lawful orders from the federal government on the basis that they aren't currently under federal command?
"The clarified policy on COVID vaccinations for Oklahoma Army and Air National Guardsmen reflects the governor's ability to assert his command authority over the men and women of the Oklahoma National Guard while they are within the state's borders," said Lt. Col. Geoff Legler, a spokesman for the guard.
Needs to happen in more states but its crazy-great to see Oklahoma leading the way here!
It makes for a more solid case to be able to cite the U.S. code compared to this douche pentagon spokesman who cant do the same but claims that all these actual laws somehow can be ignored when China Joe decides to.
Push this and see what happens if the entirety of the states NG tell the feds to fuck off.
I was a ok guard.. we are corn fed, low asvab rocking mf, well at least if your an 11 Bravo. We will dig in and build our own BIGGER fortress at our own capital, with a BBQ joint in it, a lake, and zip lines. I hope they come and try to do something.
Just a simple steel cable. Anchored to a high point and the other end anchor to another location lower and farther away. You can do anything from throw a thick leather belt strap over it to a chain or even a roller system with brakes and everything. Grab whatever you slung over that line with both hands, pick your feet up, and you'll go sliding down that mf cable so fast you better know when to let go and not crash Into whatever to anchored to down the line.
Oklahoma is the only state that all counties go red for president. Never a blue county. It’s common place here to see bubba and his lifted 4 wheel drive sporting fuck Joe Biden flags. Even the young kids are doing it. Yea, there’s some commies but they are definitely in the minority.
The key statement is, “ The states receive federal funding in return for being made available to the federal government when called to active duty by the President.” In other words, states have become dependent on the boatloads of money taken from American citizens and distributed back to states. If the feds want something, they now have enormous financial leverage against the states. This includes much more than federal funding for the National Guard.
Doesn’t the state regulate the state’s National Guard. Even if not, the stay by the 5th district should prevent the mandate across the board. If not, I would start legal action against the unlawful Biden administration’s arbitrary mandate against U.S. citizens, when they aren’t requiring/mandating it for Afghan Refugees, illegal persons entering the U.S. and members of Congress, CDC, FDA, and NIH.
So will they activate them under title ten and then try to force it again?
The governor needs to activate the guard and bring them to the capital. Of theybstand together all the fed can do is not pay them. Who cares we keep an entire unit war ready and healthy.
Hmmm 🤔 interesting thought. If that could be done all it would take is for one red state to do it and I bet most would follow suit. Then again, I’m sure the feds would view that as a declaration of war from red states. 🙄
The 10th ammendment hasn't mattered to the feds since 1865.
1787
since the feds have the power to unilaterally activate NG for Federal use. and by the way the refusal is based entirely on them not doing so.
I thought the refusal was based on the fact that the mandate is patently unconstitutional, and that OSHA is in violation of two court orders to desist.
nah its based on 'these soldiers are not under federal command right now'. Except that feds could say 'we activate Oklahoma's National Guard for shits and giggles... your only orders "Get Vaccinated", at any point
Do the commanders of the OKNG refuse reasonable and lawful orders from the federal government on the basis that they aren't currently under federal command?
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/2021/11/12/newly-oklahoma-national-guard-leader-changes-covid-vaccine-policy/8586292002/
really? didn't know that. I was told all NG have to answer to the fed if the fed activates them.
Of course it is.
And that's why we don't follow their made up rules
You are correct. It is state money.
When called into action by the Prez.
Finally. This is what real push back looks like.
Needs to happen in more states but its crazy-great to see Oklahoma leading the way here!
It makes for a more solid case to be able to cite the U.S. code compared to this douche pentagon spokesman who cant do the same but claims that all these actual laws somehow can be ignored when China Joe decides to.
Push this and see what happens if the entirety of the states NG tell the feds to fuck off.
I was a ok guard.. we are corn fed, low asvab rocking mf, well at least if your an 11 Bravo. We will dig in and build our own BIGGER fortress at our own capital, with a BBQ joint in it, a lake, and zip lines. I hope they come and try to do something.
Amen fren
I like this answer.
What are zip lines?
Just a simple steel cable. Anchored to a high point and the other end anchor to another location lower and farther away. You can do anything from throw a thick leather belt strap over it to a chain or even a roller system with brakes and everything. Grab whatever you slung over that line with both hands, pick your feet up, and you'll go sliding down that mf cable so fast you better know when to let go and not crash Into whatever to anchored to down the line.
Thanks. I had no idea what that was.
OK is cucked in a lot of ways these days, but this one they are not!
Oklahoma is the only state that all counties go red for president. Never a blue county. It’s common place here to see bubba and his lifted 4 wheel drive sporting fuck Joe Biden flags. Even the young kids are doing it. Yea, there’s some commies but they are definitely in the minority.
What a beautiful claim to be able to make about ones home! Keep the communist infection at bay and monitored.
🤠
Howdy, neighbor pede!
Hey frens, keep holding the line👌🏽
The key statement is, “ The states receive federal funding in return for being made available to the federal government when called to active duty by the President.” In other words, states have become dependent on the boatloads of money taken from American citizens and distributed back to states. If the feds want something, they now have enormous financial leverage against the states. This includes much more than federal funding for the National Guard.
And thats the stranglehold, by design.
Yet another reason the year 1913 was a deathblow to the republic. Income taxes The Fed And direct election of senate
No one paid attention. And news didn't report.
So- if the entire national guard for Oklahoma quits, what happens??
They become the biggest, well trained militia in the country
Holy shit! They're goading the federal government to activate the national guard to force the vax order, but if they do that, NG can start arrests.
Trump is several moves ahead
u/#neo
hmm. good thought, but i'll believe it when i see it lol
We had the same in Kenyan universities in the 80s and 90s. The government feared those folks. Those boys and girls could riot for weeks
FUCK THE FEDS
Doesn’t the state regulate the state’s National Guard. Even if not, the stay by the 5th district should prevent the mandate across the board. If not, I would start legal action against the unlawful Biden administration’s arbitrary mandate against U.S. citizens, when they aren’t requiring/mandating it for Afghan Refugees, illegal persons entering the U.S. and members of Congress, CDC, FDA, and NIH.
Not doing that shit on the reservation (formerly known as the state of Oklahoma).
The Federal "government" (illegitimate authority) can fuck off.
Ft Sill is my BCT Alma Mater, good to see those retards up to "no good" as usual. Give them hell, arty-fags.
haha this fits so incredibly well... Ft. Sill is my BCT Alma Mater as well.
So will they activate them under title ten and then try to force it again?
The governor needs to activate the guard and bring them to the capital. Of theybstand together all the fed can do is not pay them. Who cares we keep an entire unit war ready and healthy.
We need more governors doing this.
National guard is PART of the STATE! Fuck off Biden!
I wonder if the Governor of Oklahoma could dissolve the state's National Guard and allow them to form a militia.
Hmmm 🤔 interesting thought. If that could be done all it would take is for one red state to do it and I bet most would follow suit. Then again, I’m sure the feds would view that as a declaration of war from red states. 🙄
and the plot thickens....
it's like one massive game of chicken going on with this BS "mAnDaTe"
Well they'll (feds) should KNOW they have no jurisdiction to get involved... wtf