My mom's doctor prescribed Ambien to help her when she complained of suddenly being unable to fall asleep at night, like at all. It turned out she had a huge brain tumor, but the doc never figured that out for 14 months until we finally demanded a CT scan and saw the monster. She died a week and a half later.
But before that, the doc treated her inability to fall asleep with a variety of pills. He tried muscle relaxers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety pills, anti-depressants and Ambien to try to help her sleep. This was in a very fit, active and happy woman.
You'd think that after months of trying all of these options with no success he'd ponder why they weren't working. He didn't. But I digress.
Anyway, during the 10 days she took one Ambien at night to sleep, she was able to sleep a little, seemed completely coherent upon awakening, but later, we observed that it wiped her memory. She lost recall of her birthday, her party, her presents, her stay in the hospital, her visitors and anything else of consequence. This was a woman that the FBI offered a job to when she was younger due to her extreme memory for details. We were horrified and took the pills away.
So, a few minutes of sleep for a full memory wipe was simply not acceptable.
So, for that reason I will not take it, nor recommend it.
You might be suprised but tons of modern medicine create physical and psychological dependence. SSRI anti depressants create a physical dependence despite being absolutely worthless as far as "treating" depression goes, but people are instructed they need to be on them almost a year before they will feel anything, by that time they are incredibly physically dependent and will go through withdrawal without. Ambien is very addictive, similar to benzos in that not everyone will become psychologically addicted, but physical dependence will set in after a while. Even certain nose sprays create a physical dependence, Oxymetazoline (Afrin) will instantly clear your nostrils, but once it wears off you can hardly breath through your nose even after the very first dose, so a lot of people become physically dependent. Adderall is literally amphetamine, and we also prescribe methamphetamine to kids under the trade name "desoxyn". Ritalin and other "ADHD" meds while they might not be amphetamine based will cause psychological dependence very quick for a lot of people. Gabapentin and as another poster mentioned Lyrica as well are also very addictive.
Doctors hardly know or seem to care what they prescribe people, there are even some doctors that are so naive as to think opiates taken daily "as prescribed" will not be addictive! Ha! They use this logic with other medicine too, that if you just take it as prescribed, you won't become addicted, and if you do it's a sign you "abused" the medicine. As if a sheet of paper somehow causes the medicine to function differently once taken.
Kroger in GA filled my IVM script but charged me $4 per 3mg pill. $125 for just a months supply. I called other independent pharmacies. They can't even get it. Its in short supply.
Personally I believe someone in the gov or supply chain has it all stacked in a warehouse somewhere to stop us from getting it.
I know! My local feedstore usually stocked the coveted apple flavored gel. They tell me they will get some in December. They've been unable to get any for 4 months!
I know someone who works at Tractor supply. We've been working on stockpiling a small stash of the paste stuff but that's partly because our farm has goats and horses that actually need the dam stuff.
Except for the 88% of the ingredients that are completely unknown, and have all sorts of nasty MSDS safety precautions regarding human contact, let alone human consumption. People have stated they have taken it without problems, so if someone wants to risk it, that's up to them.
It is all a scare tactic to prevent people from taking it and getting it CHEAP compared to the usual jack-the-price-up for human use. It is completely safe as I have taken it myself several times.
The ingredients "completely unknown" is a load of horseshit. Don't fall for the lies.
Whatever, read the ingredients before you buy. Don't get the ones with other active antiparasitics. Get the IVM only ones. Also: IVM Drenches are a possibility, if the paste is sold out. Apply these to the skin, not by mouth, just as if you were an animal. Peeps are worried about the isopropanol that is the carrier for drenches. The toxicology warnings for iso are real, but from what I have read it is people presenting to emergency wards because they were drinking hand sanitiser to get drunk: they usually recovered. They have drunk an entire bottle. One teaspoon of standard drench, applied to the skin, as is the case for an IVM drench, is not gonna get you drunk, let alone poison you. It is as toxic as hand sanitiser which people frequently use these days.
American Frontline Doctors took 2 full months since my telemedicine session to wrote the script and it was $90 for that and $150 for a 1 week treatment course.
In that time I got a full order of like 5x the amount in a month with no script for like $130 from reliablerxpharmacy.com
Shit, that's just evil. For places where it is legal but unlikely, I wonder if someone has started a website showing the doctors that will prescribe sensible treatments... according to each state, province, etc?
Um, no cos doctors are getting suspended all over for actually looking after their patients, mine was one of them, & lawyers taking on covid cases are in the same boat.
Unbelievable. I feel so angry for our Australian frens. Who would have thought the land of Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin would turn into such a tyrannical regime? It's surreal.
I'm not surprised. Too many people here always ask "what's the government going to do about {insert any topic here}". They wanted a Nanny state, and that's what we get. The tide is turning now. People realizing that government do more harm than good.
I love how pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin but have no problems filling antibiotics for viruses.
And opioids n fentanyl….?
OxyContin and Ambien aren’t addictive!
Oh. I forgot🤭🙃
Come on! It’s break-through pain!
I think you are being sarcastic but is ambien seriously addictive too??
I didn't know!
My mom's doctor prescribed Ambien to help her when she complained of suddenly being unable to fall asleep at night, like at all. It turned out she had a huge brain tumor, but the doc never figured that out for 14 months until we finally demanded a CT scan and saw the monster. She died a week and a half later. But before that, the doc treated her inability to fall asleep with a variety of pills. He tried muscle relaxers, sleeping pills, anti-anxiety pills, anti-depressants and Ambien to try to help her sleep. This was in a very fit, active and happy woman.
You'd think that after months of trying all of these options with no success he'd ponder why they weren't working. He didn't. But I digress.
Anyway, during the 10 days she took one Ambien at night to sleep, she was able to sleep a little, seemed completely coherent upon awakening, but later, we observed that it wiped her memory. She lost recall of her birthday, her party, her presents, her stay in the hospital, her visitors and anything else of consequence. This was a woman that the FBI offered a job to when she was younger due to her extreme memory for details. We were horrified and took the pills away.
So, a few minutes of sleep for a full memory wipe was simply not acceptable. So, for that reason I will not take it, nor recommend it.
It can be. One of many substances I’ve had a problem with over the years.
You might be suprised but tons of modern medicine create physical and psychological dependence. SSRI anti depressants create a physical dependence despite being absolutely worthless as far as "treating" depression goes, but people are instructed they need to be on them almost a year before they will feel anything, by that time they are incredibly physically dependent and will go through withdrawal without. Ambien is very addictive, similar to benzos in that not everyone will become psychologically addicted, but physical dependence will set in after a while. Even certain nose sprays create a physical dependence, Oxymetazoline (Afrin) will instantly clear your nostrils, but once it wears off you can hardly breath through your nose even after the very first dose, so a lot of people become physically dependent. Adderall is literally amphetamine, and we also prescribe methamphetamine to kids under the trade name "desoxyn". Ritalin and other "ADHD" meds while they might not be amphetamine based will cause psychological dependence very quick for a lot of people. Gabapentin and as another poster mentioned Lyrica as well are also very addictive.
Doctors hardly know or seem to care what they prescribe people, there are even some doctors that are so naive as to think opiates taken daily "as prescribed" will not be addictive! Ha! They use this logic with other medicine too, that if you just take it as prescribed, you won't become addicted, and if you do it's a sign you "abused" the medicine. As if a sheet of paper somehow causes the medicine to function differently once taken.
Yes and it made Rosanne call that black chick from ghost busters a gorilla. The more you know 🌈
Neither is my Lyrica…oh wait?!! Funny the “Dr” never mentioned it’s debilitating side-effects before I got addicted?!!!
Yup. Even if you aren’t psychologically addicted you can certainly have bad withdrawals.
Kroger in GA filled my IVM script but charged me $4 per 3mg pill. $125 for just a months supply. I called other independent pharmacies. They can't even get it. Its in short supply.
Personally I believe someone in the gov or supply chain has it all stacked in a warehouse somewhere to stop us from getting it.
Ivermectin as horse gel/paste is $8.99 a tube for six 200 lb doses. Same stuff.
IF you can find it! Tractor Supply and Rural King (around here) always seem to be "out". They even have a sign saying "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION"!
I know! My local feedstore usually stocked the coveted apple flavored gel. They tell me they will get some in December. They've been unable to get any for 4 months!
I know someone who works at Tractor supply. We've been working on stockpiling a small stash of the paste stuff but that's partly because our farm has goats and horses that actually need the dam stuff.
Except for the 88% of the ingredients that are completely unknown, and have all sorts of nasty MSDS safety precautions regarding human contact, let alone human consumption. People have stated they have taken it without problems, so if someone wants to risk it, that's up to them.
It is all a scare tactic to prevent people from taking it and getting it CHEAP compared to the usual jack-the-price-up for human use. It is completely safe as I have taken it myself several times.
The ingredients "completely unknown" is a load of horseshit. Don't fall for the lies.
Whatever, read the ingredients before you buy. Don't get the ones with other active antiparasitics. Get the IVM only ones. Also: IVM Drenches are a possibility, if the paste is sold out. Apply these to the skin, not by mouth, just as if you were an animal. Peeps are worried about the isopropanol that is the carrier for drenches. The toxicology warnings for iso are real, but from what I have read it is people presenting to emergency wards because they were drinking hand sanitiser to get drunk: they usually recovered. They have drunk an entire bottle. One teaspoon of standard drench, applied to the skin, as is the case for an IVM drench, is not gonna get you drunk, let alone poison you. It is as toxic as hand sanitiser which people frequently use these days.
They’re far less likely to poison expensive horses than they are humans. Think.
Phizermectin, modernamectin?
The pharmacy bottle says mfr: Edenbridge round white 806.
The actual blister-pack says
"IVERMECTIN TABLET USP 3mg"
"Edenbridge Pharmaceuticals, LLC"
I think it’s big farm (Pfizer and Moderna) that are stacking it in warehouses.
That was actually cheap. I paid 150 to get a single treatment course for my wife.
American Frontline Doctors took 2 full months since my telemedicine session to wrote the script and it was $90 for that and $150 for a 1 week treatment course.
In that time I got a full order of like 5x the amount in a month with no script for like $130 from reliablerxpharmacy.com
Exactly...They even encourage you to take them...
At least your docs can prescribe it .. Here in Australia they have baned Docs from prescribing it for covid related purposes
Shit, that's just evil. For places where it is legal but unlikely, I wonder if someone has started a website showing the doctors that will prescribe sensible treatments... according to each state, province, etc?
Um, no cos doctors are getting suspended all over for actually looking after their patients, mine was one of them, & lawyers taking on covid cases are in the same boat.
Unbelievable. I feel so angry for our Australian frens. Who would have thought the land of Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin would turn into such a tyrannical regime? It's surreal.
I'm not surprised. Too many people here always ask "what's the government going to do about {insert any topic here}". They wanted a Nanny state, and that's what we get. The tide is turning now. People realizing that government do more harm than good.