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– redlotus69 31 points 4 years ago +31 / -0

Look at this point literally everyone in the Trump/Q camp is turning on each other.

At this point... my guess is optics.

Enjoy the show

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– ZerroDefex 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Timing is outrageously suspicious.

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– memeYourDreams 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Or they just didn't want to include him in the handful that 'knows'.

Rejection is hard.

If you listen to his presentation he is wayyy too safe on assertions and have zero layman persuasiveness.

Beside being in a q tard let you know enough already, he probably didn't just wanna be a simple Q tard. He aint better than most of us XD, many of us know way more than him imo about the BS.

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– Quantachyon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Except Trump HATED Epstein...

and never traveled to Pedo Island nor on the lolitta Express.

Shiva is smart enough to realize that.

My guess ..optics. (Feign weakness when you are strong.)

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– Canadianguy17 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

I think this is an important step. We need to stop creating idols. If we want freedom, we need to do it ourselves. Humanity needs to fight for this together, not under the DJT banner. The world needs leaders in many fields and in many organizations, not just DJT.

I would like to bet every single hard core Patriot has moments of doubt about the plan or the intentions of others.

That's our battle to calm our emotions and go back to WHAT WE KNOW and reason from there.

I think it's perfectly fine to "light a fire under DJTs butt" to get on with it. Talk is cheap, so be a man of action or step aside. I don't share that opinion but I do think there are many reasonable positions to take at a time like this and they don't all have to agree with mine.

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– WarKittenz 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This!

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– CanadianPedeMan1571 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This has been coming for a long time in my opinion. Something happened at the end of the Trump Presidency. Maybe it was there all along and I didn't see it or didn't want to. But the VAX promotion when you know he has access to what we know about the VAX... David Martin has pointed out in his last few talks that Trump signed an executive order regarding VAX rules just before COVID that allowed some of what is happening. I have been taken for a fool by a long time friend in the past for tens of thousands and I get the same gut feelings here.

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– Norman_F_Dixon 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Dr. Shiva / War Room Interview at Lindell's Cyber Symposium Day 3 / 08/12/2021

https://rumble.com/vl26m7-episode-1167-shocking-developments-coming-out-of-cyber-symposium-today.html (time 39 min 30 sec, no timestamp on rumble)

Shiva states, one way or the the other, either Lindell is a hoaxer or Lindell has been hoaxed.

"4.2%"

Dr. Shiva has not been on Bannon's Warroom since 08/12/2021.

Dr. Shiva appeared once on The Lindell Report and was interviewed by Mike Lindell shortly after the Arizona Audit Report came out on 09/24/2021 to talk about the results of his (Shiva's) Pima County audit.

The 4.2 % issue about the vote "extrapolations" was not discussed.

And then on 11/17/2021 he was live on youtube with this rather enigmatic url...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89MIjiXX-IQ

Read into that what you will.

cc: u/MAGAdeeburger u/v8power

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– Norman_F_Dixon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It is what he promised, but it was not part of the plan.

It was all for show. By law, by the Cyber Information Security Act (CISA) of 2015, a private entity could monitor and collect the data intrusion vote flip operation. And a private entity could analyze the data in order to understand the attack methodology in order to document for the purpose of developing counter measures to protect information systems.

However, a private entity is prohibited from sharing the raw data for legal and for privacy law concerns with any other entity other than the the Department of Homeland Security.

So, for the past year Lindell and team have been using the PCAP information to gaslight the opposition and to rally MAGA supporters and any law abiding citizen (did you see what I did there) to create a nation-wide grass-roots bottom-up populist movement to fight for equal justice under the law based on their rights as enumerated, guaranteed and protected by the Constitution.

Lindell's data analysts and lawyers filtered the data provided at the Cyber Symposium, removing all information (names, passwords, etc.) they could not share without violating the guidelines detailed in CISA of 2015. This naturally corrupted the data that was provided for outside examination but since it was not raw data it could not be either authenticated or not authenticated. Lindell's 5 million dollar bet was pure side show barking. Very effective side show barking.

When you have time listen to this entire interview with Kirk Wiebe, a retired NSA senior analyst, who provides an articulate and clear explanation on the matter of what can be done and what cannot be done with information that is not the raw data. This interview took place at the Veteran's Alliance Center in Sioux Falls, SD during the Cyber Symposium.

Start at the 09:04 minute mark for the portion speaking directly to the issue of Lindell not providing the raw PCAP data. It starts slow, bear with it, the context is important.

The man Wiebe refers to as having collected the PCAP data that was provided to Mike Lindell, through another person now (but not at that time) associated with Lindell's organization, Brannon Howse, is named Dennis Armstrong.

Listen carefully when Wiebe states he has knows that Dennis Montgomery has been collecting election related PCAP data for two years. The PCAP data that Lindell has been using only covers the time from 2 November through 6 November 2020.

Two years.

Two years worth of data.

Any wonder everyone and their brother is not running for reelection in 2022.

https://thenewamerican.com/lindell-cyber-symposium-j-kirk-wiebe-retired-nsa-senior-intelligence-analyst-cyber-expert-and-whistleblower/

cc: u/MAGAdeburger u/v8power

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– Norman_F_Dixon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nope...

Dr. Shiva is correct in his analysis of the state by state flipped vote counts based on the "extrapolated" and filtered (read pre-approved by Lindell's attorneys) PCAP data presented at the symposium.

Have you watched the interview - link below

https://rumble.com/vl26m7-episode-1167-shocking-developments-coming-out-of-cyber-symposium-today.html (time 39 min 30 sec, no timestamp on rumble).

Lindell's legal and analytic teams never allowed outside access to any of the cyber security experts invited to "examine" and validate the PCAP metadata at the symposium and has never allowed outside access to date.

Lindell announced several weeks that the PCAP data is, as instructed by the Cyber Information Security Act (CISA) of 22015, when collected by a "private entity"

(15) PRIVATE ENTITY.— (A) IN GENERAL.—Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, the term ‘‘private entity’’ means any person or private group, organization, proprietorship, partnership, trust, cooperative, corporation, or other commercial or nonprofit entity, including an officer, employee, or agent thereof. (B) INCLUSION.—The term ‘‘private entity’’ includes a State, tribal, or local government performing utility services, such as electric, natural gas, or water services. (C) EXCLUSION.—The term ‘‘private entity’’ does not include a foreign power as defined in section 101 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1801). 129 STAT. 2939

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Cybersecurity%20Information%20Sharing%20Act%20of%202015.pdf

is going to be turned over to the Dept of Homeland Security, in this instance the agency with responsibility for election integrity, and that the PCAP data is not/not part of the Bill of Complaint Lindell's attorneys have presented to State A.G.s for signature and filing with the Supreme Court.

Lindell and his organization used the PCAP data to bird dog where to conduct and concentrate resources to gather evidence and to pressure compromised or corrupt (or both in many instances) officials and provide a venue to encourage innocent witnesses to the voter fraud, vote traffiking, election hacking and rigging that occurred in all 50 states and territories of the U.S., to come forward. Now that they are done with the PCAP data, under CISA instructions, it goes to the Department of Homeland Security.

It has been interesting watching Bannon, Lindell and Dr. Shiva play musical chairs around this issue. Personally, I think it was just all part of the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7gc7oHPfs0 (55 seconds)

cc: u/MAGAdeburger u/v8power

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– Orangeel2112 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

We'll, who knows? He very well could be a smokescreen and the real agenda is to get as many people vaxxed as quickly as possible for the coming of Lucifer. Prophecy does describe one who is adored as being the great deceiver. Be wary of everything

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– zinc_ionophores_yay 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Everybody's expendable.

Anyone who claims to have invented email has a big fucking retarded head. Email is an obvious progression of multi-use computers with a mailing concept that everyone can understand. To claim oneself as inventor is the height of arrogance. At most, he just was one of the many people who made the modern Internet happen, and that's me being generous. So many people contributed, but he's a Big Shot? Fuck him.

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– dumb_okie 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Are you trying to say Al Gore did not make the Internet?

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– zinc_ionophores_yay 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

(sarcasm) No, don't bring my Oscar-winning hero Al Gore into this. He saved all of us from Global Warming! (/sarcasm)

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– Michonne21 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

What’s he done for America? Critics are a dime a dozen.

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– Mr_A 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

He did, and continues to do, a lot of work exposing corruption in his state and congressional district. He fully exposed voter fraud in the republican primary where he was a candidate, following up doggedly with public information requests, followed by subpoenas, etc. No, he didn't revive the economy for four years, or produce a bunch of peace accords, and in that he's small potatoes compared to Trump. But he earned his place in the discussions more than most.

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– gobby 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

"You are watching a movie."

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– B4D_ID3AS 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Stew Peters has been a long time DJT supporter, but has started raising concerns regarding DJTs actions as of late. He hasn't turned against him, but makes good points we all need to consider. His interview on 11/30 with Mark Meadows addresses some of these points including his questionable endorsements and continued vax push despite all the evidence that abounds. A lot of people chock it up to optics, but when people's lives are on the line- decency and honor should be priority.

The devil is the great deceiver and was projected to be the person to bring peace to Israel- enter the Abraham Accords which hinged on military weapon sales. Many people were projected to fall for the great deceiver's actions and if that's DJT then I've been in that camp also. But, at this point, I don't support Trump's return without the military and Q leading the way and explaining a few things as there are parts to this deception that I'm not understanding- including the continued promotion of the jab.

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– madmallard 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

New twist? 5 months ago?

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– Tradstew 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He's a little full of himself. Probably thinks "he" will be the one to "save" us.

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– Mr_A 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

After seeing the video, I honestly think it's pretty weak. Nothing in there that hasn't been answered by devolution. Well, except vaccines, but that wasn't a campaign promise, and we're trying to figure that out here, too. In the meantime, there's nothing wrong with a bottoms-up approach to government, coupled to a decentralized communications platform, which seems to be what he's pushing.

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– NanaQ45 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Steve Bannon recently said to look for the signal, not at the noise....its all so obviously fake to give the left a bone to chew on. Im stunned we've come this far and so many don't see it or understand comms. Please remain seated, your country is being reinstalled folks. Painful it will be.

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– MontyMole 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Powerful.

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– LBTrumplican2 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

u/#q3957

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– 10122046 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He didn’t like Trump going back almost a year to my knowledge.

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– B4D_ID3AS 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Trump went on nearly an hour late as he was monitoring and waiting for the bad actors (Klantifa, etc) to enter the capital and set off the false flag that the FBI had helped organize.

If Trump really did get compromised, so be it. It will make things more difficult for turning around, but if it was truly hopeless for us- then the propaganda would no longer be necessary. Keep hope, but prepare for the worst. Remember, [N]othing [C]an [S]top [W]hat [I]s [C]oming.

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