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*$17* Billion to bring chip manufacturing to America. That magic number again (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 4 years ago by xchainlinkx 4 years ago by xchainlinkx +311 / -0
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– BigDaddy1 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Chip manufacturing is almost 100% automated. Labor costs are very low.

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– IWoakeUpIn1984 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

That is not necessarily always true. I have worked in Silicon Wafer Fabs on some of the equipment for the company I worked for. There are So many different processes that a Silicon Wafer has to go through. While there is quite a lot of automation, there still has to be quite a lot of ppl there to do certain tasks that the automation is not capable of doing. Quite a lot of the workers in the various Fabs I was in, were Black or Hispanic, and some very smart, skilled ppl. They got payed very well.

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– Scipio_Americanus 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Not to mention all the ongoing environmental regulatory review that has to be done at plants like this - and those are mostly six figure jobs.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Plus the transition to aluminum instead gold for the conductance

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– Flowers_for_Alger 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

This

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– IWoakeUpIn1984 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"Automation is good at repetitive and quick tasks, but entropy always catches up with everything. Learn to fix the automation systems, and you'll have a job."

I've spent a fair portion of my life doing just that, and agree fully. There is a great amount of equipment beyond Automation that needs repair as well.

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– IWoakeUpIn1984 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yep, I all ways tried to be that good Tech.... Fixed a few problem child's for company's.

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– InfiniteWin 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

100%.

Austin is basically little commiefornia at this point.

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– valley-lily 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Austin is beyond hope now. It really is becoming San Francisco 2.0

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– Gladiator2019 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I completely agree. It's ridiculous.

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– Creepy_Ginger 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

So question. The 'focus on the Signal not Noise' thing.

Would this be one of those? 17 is a signal, the rest is noise.

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– KickingPugilist 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No one knows. We just make the best guesses and try to connect the dots.

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– SpaceManBob 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I see no signal here. 17s in certain contexts, such as posts by Trump or the military, are very possibly comms in many situations but this post doesn't seem like it. There's just no relevance to anything here that would make it reasonable to see this as a comm.

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– Bedminster 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Come on doomers this is a good thing,stop crying about shit you know absolutely nothing about.

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– Aarrow 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's not about jobs. It's about not having to rely in other countries to supply microchips so that supplies can't be restricted and used against the country.

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– CherokeePede 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

17 Billion on supply chain sounds like BS.

All the material comes from offshore, so why spend the money to ship it all here then manufacture and assemble unless labor for that is about to ve cheaper in the US.

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– KickingPugilist 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Because China os withholding the chips, why do you think cars are so expensive and have a backlog of wait time and chip-dependant goods are so expensive?

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– Whirlybot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Now do our medicines!

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– KickingPugilist 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes sir!

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– heebiejeebie 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

and our food.. .and our every damned thing else!!! it's maddening to go to any store and find all the shit made in china!!!

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– CherokeePede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Im not sure I understand. Are you saying they take say a chip made on a 20nm process and somehow turn that chip into a 7nm chip?

Also, remanufacturing is still costly and much cheaper to be done elsewhere.

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– OriginalRealityCheck 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That only holds true until "Elsewhere" won't ship it to us....

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– yeldarb1983 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Or hikes up the price because "elsewhere" are the only people making the chips...

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– IWoakeUpIn1984 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Semiconductor Company's have Teams that do nothing but convert existing designs that are popular/useful from one nm process to the next smaller nm process, so that that design can be made in an upgraded facility. Then remodel the old nm facility to what ever the next gen process is.

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– xchainlinkx [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The earth is big. Who says we cant acquire the raw materials here in the us?

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– CherokeePede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Even if they could it would have to be cheaper here to do it. I dont see a business plan where this works unlass labor cost in the US is expected to.go way down.

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– SpoonySmalls 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Cue a migrant invasion from the third world.

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– yeldarb1983 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Unless they anticipate a price hike in the next couple of decades. Still, you'd think they would build the plant in mexico or india...

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– NotoriousBIG 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What is true is that 51% of our chips are made in Taiwan. When China takes Taiwan, as they will, we will be hurting badly.

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– Mister_Winston 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There are already wafer fabs in Austin, like at the AMD headquarters. The chip shortages everyone has heard about are really just shortages of integrated circuit boards that the chips sit in. The processors themselves don't pose as much of a supply challenge.

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– Mister_Winston 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Taylor is the birthplace of contemporary Texas style brisket. Louie Mueller Barbecue perfected the 14 hour smoke with post oak. The most successful barbecue joints in the state have replicated it, including the world famous Franklin Barbecue. My fear is that Samsung is going to drive the land value up so high that local shops like his may close.

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– AngelCole 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

My buddy has been searching for a used car because he hit a deer and totaled his. He said there are hardly any used cars right now because the computer chips that go into make new cars are not in stock and they are all made in China. I don't know if the chips made at this place in Texas would be used in cars, not knowledgeable about this subject. He said the price of used cars is crazy because there is a demand for them but no to little supply. He's a car guy too and sold cars for a living for a while so I would expect him to know.

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– SirRupert 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'll bet it comes with lots of greedy hands clinging while cutting off at the wrist.

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– Surfsup 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They gotta make vaxx chips on USA soil

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– Maui_Boy 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I thought I read a couple years ago about a Taiwanese company opening up a chip plant here in the US. I think Trump got them to come to Arizona.

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– yeldarb1983 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Damn, too far away for me to get a job as a plant janitor, lol.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What about National Semiconductor in Maine? 17 billion is a bargain.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Should probably be less than $100 million.

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What's the significance of the number 17? I'm ootl.

Is it referencing the Bible in overcoming evil with complete victory?

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– Gnometard 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Your looking for the number so you it everywhere.

Watch 23, with jim Carey

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