Coming from a former EOD tech (7 1/2 yrs as a Navy EOD tech), what you see is what you're first taught how to make when you're learning about homemade IEDs. Then you get to play around and design some of your own. Each person makes things a little different than the rest. It's what becomes known as a "fingerprint." That's how an experienced tech can determine who made the explosive. Pipe bombs are the guerilla's choice for homemade explosive devices, they're that easy to make. HOWEVER, uniformity is something ONLY taught in the lab, or by EOD techs, like myself, who were lab course trained themselves.
The two in the pics are damn near identical, meaning they were most likely produced in a lab, by the same person or by a group of people using the same schematics, and most likely local to the event, meaning D.C. in this case. The uniformity between the two photos is key, here.
Also, transporting IEDs is difficult, in the best of circumstances due to traffic conditions, road conditions, the anxiety of transporting explosives, etc. Most backyarders would poss or crap their pants, be sweating profusely, and drive way too eratic, thus bringing unwanted attention to themselves from the cops or innocent bystanders. Keying in on these tells is how we've been able to stop attacks from suicide bombers overseas. And in D.C. Metro area, the roads are horrible, the traffic is worse, and on that day was IMPOSSIBLE to navigate, even on foot, without coming close to a bomb sniffing dog, cops, NG units, inquisitive bystanders, etc. Whoever planted these had time to do it, unmolested and undetected. A statistical impossibility for a Normie in D.C. on 1/6/2021.
In all my experience, I have NEVER seen such uniformity in pictures of bombs. Ever. Usually, if it's a "homemade" device, it's been cobbled together and looks sloppy. You can tell an amateur made them. These are professional. Right down to the same type of timer we use in the govt training of EOD techs.
Granted, you can readily find all the non explosive materials to make a pipe bomb at Lowes or Home Depot, and most of the explosive materials can be found there, too. BUT, if I were a betting man, judging by how the it's all neatly wired, cleanly soldered (that is an art form and ONLY comes with hours upon hours of experience, similar to welding), and with the same signature look, it's clear to me this was made in a Federal EOD Lab, nowhere else. Which means the explosives are probably from the Federal Registry and most likely could ONLY be found in the U.S. by only a relative few handsful of Non-Fed type civilians. You don't see that kid of uniformity and craftsmanship outside a govt bomb lab, E...V...E...R... And chances are, the explosives in that (if there even is any) is most likely military grade high explosives packed into the device with ball bearing, nails, or some other type of shrapnel, b cause that's what nearly ALL of the govts bomb techs are trained to make.
Questions, if the Federal EOD tech were also trained in uniformity, would they not have camouflaged that fingerprint in case it were found? The high grade of manufacture and the clean fingerprint that you describe suggests to me that these were meant to be detonated, so they weren't meant to be found before detonation. However, they were found with such a clear, uniform signature: did they just become sloppy and arrogant and not expect their bomb to be discovered at all?
Also, do you have ideas about who would be the target of these? I'd heard that these were targeted at Trump after he gave his speech, but he disappeared en route down the boulevard to the Capitol for his protection.
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Yeah how can they look different? I mean yes every single media hyped act of violence since the Bush era at least is fake cointelpro agents but this is hardly evidence
I'm not saying it wasn't the fbi because it probably was but wouldn't the fbi train with what the most common visual they would see is, if looking for a pipe bomb? Thus the training prop looks like what it should look like?
But still definitely fbi, they don't want to risk blowing up their friends, they aren't Taliban or whatevs, they just want to burn America
Great question. I even said "Didn't know the FBI left the price tags on their training bombs." From the looks of it...those tags look pretty damn new lol! I swear sometimes things are not researched here at times. Oh well 🤷♂️
If you look at the upper right corner of the materials pic it shows the corner of a cardboard box. With the little bit of image I am 99.9% certain it's an amazon shipping box, lol. (the black line is a portion of the amazon smile logo).
So it appears that the materials were ordered online and pic taken shortly after being unpacked, stickers left on.
The timer is just a cheap timer - it's job is likely to connect some contact pads, allowing for other electronics to complete the circuit responsible for causing the boom device to go boom.
Granted, I have zero experience with this, but that's how I'd imagine it could be used.
Um, I guess in theory it could if you had a really sensitive material but it just seems unlikely that such a low power thing could cause an ignition even if it were fiddled with. You would probably end up having to make further modifications beneath the surface to amp the kitchen timer's voltage up or something.
You could wire the timer to something internally that activates a larger battery source with higher power, but I am not an engineering expert on pipe bombs. Not my expertise or interest.
I'm disappointed in my fellow terrorist qanon racist sexist evil insurrectionist conspiracists, pipe bombs were taught to us during orientation by the Shaman guy.
you ain't trying to say the fbi had anything to do with the planting of that bomb, are ya?? say it ain't so!!!
We know that's not true. TV told us so.
1/5 terrorist
They had to make it easy for the students to find them, duh.
Coming from a former EOD tech (7 1/2 yrs as a Navy EOD tech), what you see is what you're first taught how to make when you're learning about homemade IEDs. Then you get to play around and design some of your own. Each person makes things a little different than the rest. It's what becomes known as a "fingerprint." That's how an experienced tech can determine who made the explosive. Pipe bombs are the guerilla's choice for homemade explosive devices, they're that easy to make. HOWEVER, uniformity is something ONLY taught in the lab, or by EOD techs, like myself, who were lab course trained themselves.
The two in the pics are damn near identical, meaning they were most likely produced in a lab, by the same person or by a group of people using the same schematics, and most likely local to the event, meaning D.C. in this case. The uniformity between the two photos is key, here.
Also, transporting IEDs is difficult, in the best of circumstances due to traffic conditions, road conditions, the anxiety of transporting explosives, etc. Most backyarders would poss or crap their pants, be sweating profusely, and drive way too eratic, thus bringing unwanted attention to themselves from the cops or innocent bystanders. Keying in on these tells is how we've been able to stop attacks from suicide bombers overseas. And in D.C. Metro area, the roads are horrible, the traffic is worse, and on that day was IMPOSSIBLE to navigate, even on foot, without coming close to a bomb sniffing dog, cops, NG units, inquisitive bystanders, etc. Whoever planted these had time to do it, unmolested and undetected. A statistical impossibility for a Normie in D.C. on 1/6/2021.
In all my experience, I have NEVER seen such uniformity in pictures of bombs. Ever. Usually, if it's a "homemade" device, it's been cobbled together and looks sloppy. You can tell an amateur made them. These are professional. Right down to the same type of timer we use in the govt training of EOD techs.
Granted, you can readily find all the non explosive materials to make a pipe bomb at Lowes or Home Depot, and most of the explosive materials can be found there, too. BUT, if I were a betting man, judging by how the it's all neatly wired, cleanly soldered (that is an art form and ONLY comes with hours upon hours of experience, similar to welding), and with the same signature look, it's clear to me this was made in a Federal EOD Lab, nowhere else. Which means the explosives are probably from the Federal Registry and most likely could ONLY be found in the U.S. by only a relative few handsful of Non-Fed type civilians. You don't see that kid of uniformity and craftsmanship outside a govt bomb lab, E...V...E...R... And chances are, the explosives in that (if there even is any) is most likely military grade high explosives packed into the device with ball bearing, nails, or some other type of shrapnel, b cause that's what nearly ALL of the govts bomb techs are trained to make.
Wow, thanks for the insight!
Questions, if the Federal EOD tech were also trained in uniformity, would they not have camouflaged that fingerprint in case it were found? The high grade of manufacture and the clean fingerprint that you describe suggests to me that these were meant to be detonated, so they weren't meant to be found before detonation. However, they were found with such a clear, uniform signature: did they just become sloppy and arrogant and not expect their bomb to be discovered at all?
Also, do you have ideas about who would be the target of these? I'd heard that these were targeted at Trump after he gave his speech, but he disappeared en route down the boulevard to the Capitol for his protection.
Excellent assessment SuckaFree. Thank you for your service.
To be fair there are only so many ways to make a simple pipe bomb out of part you got at Home Depot.
is that really even feasible? can a kitchen timer create an ignition source for an explosive?
It can be if it’s simply used to complete the connection from a power source to the igniter.
Exactly. No different to a switch.
Place contact A in a fixed position.
Place contact B on the dial.
Ensure they come together at some point to complete a connection.
Time for 1812 Overture's ending.
This guy, fawkes.
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Tchaikovsky?? Are you a Russian bot?!?!
I take it you're not familiar with the finale?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W1Wi2U9sQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9gYhnUKehU
I do not know, comrade, what you are talking about. I am a fellow human. Ha. Ha. Ha.
A little more involved than that, but yes, you are basically correct.
Well, being pipe bombs, they have to look similar. Duh.
Yeah how can they look different? I mean yes every single media hyped act of violence since the Bush era at least is fake cointelpro agents but this is hardly evidence
Oh I didn't know the FBI kept the price tags on their training pipe-bombs....shit......
They are bar codes for identification.
So they can return them after they are done with them
Fbi as an institution must go. Only serves the deep state.
Ther is joined left inside to hold anyone accountable.
Shit, now they will ban kitchen timers.
No, they don't look similar at all. Or familiar, since I am not accustomed to viewing bombs, pipe or otherwise.
I’m sure there’s an “instructable”
Fedsurrection.
I'm not saying it wasn't the fbi because it probably was but wouldn't the fbi train with what the most common visual they would see is, if looking for a pipe bomb? Thus the training prop looks like what it should look like? But still definitely fbi, they don't want to risk blowing up their friends, they aren't Taliban or whatevs, they just want to burn America
Shameful. No wonder they couldn't find the people who did it! SMH
Damn. I didnt expect so many agents to respond
Can anyone find a souce for the materials part of this meme? Tin eye showed nothing. Don't want to post this without proof of fbi use.
Great question. I even said "Didn't know the FBI left the price tags on their training bombs." From the looks of it...those tags look pretty damn new lol! I swear sometimes things are not researched here at times. Oh well 🤷♂️
If you look at the upper right corner of the materials pic it shows the corner of a cardboard box. With the little bit of image I am 99.9% certain it's an amazon shipping box, lol. (the black line is a portion of the amazon smile logo).
So it appears that the materials were ordered online and pic taken shortly after being unpacked, stickers left on.
Not sure how much room there is for creative expression when building one of those things.
Why the fuck were they placed so blatantly out in the open like that? Wtf. Wouldn’t someone put them in a more conspicuous location?
They don't even try to hide it.
is that really even feasible? can a kitchen timer create an ignition source for an explosive?
FBI entered the chat lol ☝️
Yes, it would work. Doesn’t get simpler really?!
The timer is just a cheap timer - it's job is likely to connect some contact pads, allowing for other electronics to complete the circuit responsible for causing the boom device to go boom.
Granted, I have zero experience with this, but that's how I'd imagine it could be used.
Um, I guess in theory it could if you had a really sensitive material but it just seems unlikely that such a low power thing could cause an ignition even if it were fiddled with. You would probably end up having to make further modifications beneath the surface to amp the kitchen timer's voltage up or something.
You could wire the timer to something internally that activates a larger battery source with higher power, but I am not an engineering expert on pipe bombs. Not my expertise or interest.
It's basic electrical engineering. You're not using the timer as a source of power, you're using a battery.
The timer's just a switch.
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I'm disappointed in my fellow terrorist qanon racist sexist evil insurrectionist conspiracists, pipe bombs were taught to us during orientation by the Shaman guy.
I TOLD those guys in the back to quit fukkin around & PAY ATTENTION?!!