It's not so much that they're stupid, it's that they're cowards. There are smart people living under constant cognitive dissonance and cope with it by pretending they love the crowd of dumb scared people they threw their lot in with, reality is they're scared of ostracization because everyone's so over socialized these days and had competition taken from them as a concept.
Ask them why biden shut down OUR pipelines, but gave putin permission to build HIS pipeline.
Make your friend blow a gasket trying to explain that logic.
Thats exactly what I keep telling lefties when they try and "call out", Trump supporters for "not having even a fundamental understanding of economics, and that Biden doesn't control inflation".
Sir, I hope for all and especially for your sake our world does not spiral down to the point where wrong think gets you put in a camp.
Your friend's programming is so complete that your trustworthy friend will immediately report you to the authorities believing wholeheartedly that she is doing the right thing and also that she is helping you by providing you with an intervention to resolve your wrong think.
You will meanwhile be in a concentration camp where your best outcome is that they simply kill you quickly. The more likely outcome is that they will torture you physically and mentally until you are re-educated into right think and if that is taking too long they will kill you instead.
History is not on your side here. Please better acquaint yourself with what happens when people are divided into right and wrong think groups and the regime in place campaigns for the wrong thinkers to be reported to the government for their own good as well as for the good of the country/ society.
Edit:
Reading further down in this thread I see you have indicated this woman is your wife. Well in that case, keep trying your best. Good luck to you. I would never suggest dissolving a marriage for the scenario you described thus far. I was under the impression this woman was not yet your wife when I responded earlier.
I am very fortunate that Wifey is a very tolerant normie. She is pretty much with me on this stuff but I have to be careful not to be too pushy. I can't talk about it all the time even though I'm thinking about it all time.
However, although my Wife is my best friend, the friend I'm talking about in the title is my best friend and I think my wife's best friend also.
Ugh. That level of brainwashing is so deep that you may need to reconsider the value of that relationship in your life.
Some people will be incapable of moving forward, data cannot change their paradigm.
Yuri Bezmenov warned us of this.
Your friend might not be entirely wrong. I do think Putin is cooperating to break the NWO/Cabal. I think many countries are. Honestly Biden is so much of a failure, there are days I think he’s cooperating lol
My own family think I am insane. I get called terrible things. I can't wait for the light to shine on the truth. I will be walking away from some folks.Even Jesus said of the people that wouldn't except the Word to dust off your feet and move on. God Won
I am very fortunate that Wifey is a very tolerant normie. She is pretty much with me on this stuff but I have to be careful not to be too pushy. I can't talk about it all the time even though I'm thinking about it all time.
Be patient, ask questions, never try to tell them what to think. It will take more time for some people to wake up but from my experience asking a question and then moving on to another subject not debating with them works. " Why would this administration shut down a pipeline construction? it doesn't make sense" Over time after enough seeds have been planted your friend will come around.
That I'm out of my mind. I'm obsessed, I'm a moron. Oh right Trump is returning and so is Elvis. Stop talking you sound crazy. Some just don't realize the serious condition of the world and our country. Our very basic freedoms are at stake let alone the crimes that are being committed. Particularly against the children. Millions go missing. The severity of the circumstances before us. We must take our country back from these reprobates.WWG1WGA
Ah they conflate the beliefs held by us aware of the genuine political and medical corruption of our governments and those held by the fringe sect of Qanon baby boomers who grew up without the internet and thus end up buying into the countless unsubstantiated claims (readily found on telegram and youtube) in their desperate pursuit of hopium.
I know how that goes. It definitely makes me want to give them baby shaking syndrome when they behave and speak condescendingly as if to deny that our beliefs are the result of constantly updated, analyzed and critiqued research that is always ongoing and subject to being ameliorated whenever new information is made available.
Hang in there fren. The truth has a funny way of punching its way out into the sunlight as time goes on.
First of all there is no Qanon, secondly it is not a fringe group and it is not true that facts are unsubstantiated. So your sarcasm is not appreciated. Your right about the fact the truth will come forth. I suggest you go else where to amuse yourself. I find it rather interesting and disturbing that you chose baby shaking as a reference, speaks volumes. Bye.
I think you are greatly confused. No sarcasm at all here. There is the Q movement and there are those Qanons who travel to Dallas to await the resurrection of JFK Jr and Michael Jackson. They believe the absurd unsubstantiated claims from the likes of Charlie Ward and Simon Parkes.
The Q movement is made up of us who understand that this is a grassroots movement and our involvement is necessary to produce change. And that sitting back and waiting for Trump to save us while believing that all the bad guys have been executed, is just not the way to go about this.
...speaks volumes... lol you took all of that the completely wrong way 😂😂
There is just as much disinformation on our side as there is coming from the mainstream media. Don't be fooled into thinking our movement hasn't been infiltrated by phony truthers.
Just like Jan 6th. Agent provocateurs are very much a thing and they are going to do their best to look like Trump supporters only looking to help our cause, when they are actually working to trip us up and make us feel like we've lost.
Unfortunately, those who devour MSM cannot fathom that they are being lied to. About 4 months ago I had a conversation with my middle sister. These were the words she spoke, "My gosh, if we can't believe the news media, we are in a world of trouble." I looked at her and asked if she understood why I have been beating that dead horse for over 4 years. She's awake now, but I know she still has a hard time believing some of the things that I spend hours researching. That's ok, she took the first vax and had covid within a week, her double vaxxed husband also had it when she did. They aren't taking any more shots. So, I'm happy with that one small gain.
One of my closest friends is a fellow OR scientist … he is also a flaming liberal. He wasnt brainwashed until Trumps second year when the TDS started to manifest on a mass scale. I am 100% convinced that the Mass Formation Psychosis thing is absolutely real. Not even a question open for debate anymore.
Im with you … Im holding out hope for our friends.
Thanks for the comment. I will never renounce my friend, and I don't think she will renounce me because of this divide. We just have to get through it.
But for a normie that is so invested in what she's been told all this time... To renounce it all is quite difficult. She would have to admit she was wrong. She has so many normie friends that are all in on the government narrative.
I have friends like that too, fren. Our dearest frens are so very sweet, so smart, and exposed to truth. Double jabbed butttttt they are coming around. Try to be patient, love her anyway.
I have a lot of other normie friends also, none of them are dumb. Highly successful in life. Two of them are in Antarctica or on their way there at them for a vacation cruise.
This mental programming is incredibly effective and very hard to break through.
It's also important to point out that they now have to use trains instead of the pipeline, and the trains have heavy democrat investors, such as Elizabeth warren. The trains also cost considerably more than using a pipeline
Your friend isn't a normie, your friend is a full bore leftist liberal. I don't tolerate those kind of people. I especially don't befriend them. As a matter of fact I don't even know anyone that brain dead.
Y'all need to realize what we are dealing with here.
She's a very smart woman who trusts the media and her government.
We want to win this thing. And turning people like my friend is the key. She will eventually have that moment where she figures it out but I don't know how to make it happen.
oh man... how in the hell. reminds me of that chick when they asked "if you are travelling 80 mph how long would it take you to go 80 miles" and she oh my damned it... i think her answer was 58 mins... haha
enjoy
Yes, we have different information sources and this is the root of the problem.
She thinks my information sources are AlEx JoNes level conspiracy bullshit.
But I can't just insist she look any information because she just rejects and doesn't want to look at it. I can't push it or I will lose my best friend.
My best friend sounds the same. She's insanely smart and also and amazing friend who has always been there for me even in some really fucked up circumstances. We've been close for 25 years. I started to distance myself from her since things have gotten crazy because I didn't want to argue over politics, (we've never agreed and had quite a few debates over the years).
She seems to take a little bit if a middle ground stance of knowing something is off but I honestly just think she's a victim of her own ego and also she cares deeply about "fitting in" and she herself has teased me about being a "conspiracy theorist" many times so accepting this government collusion is like labeling herself in a way.
I decided I didn't want to lose her friendship and while we do talk about current events a little, for the most part I just try to avoid these topics. I think something very real will have to happen like vax injury or something to change her, it's out of my hands. I do, however, have some amazingly based friends who I talk in detail about all this shit so it fills the void.
Damn why are normies so stupid…
Goverment schools working as intended
It's not so much that they're stupid, it's that they're cowards. There are smart people living under constant cognitive dissonance and cope with it by pretending they love the crowd of dumb scared people they threw their lot in with, reality is they're scared of ostracization because everyone's so over socialized these days and had competition taken from them as a concept.
Cause Orange Man Bad
That friend is broken, you need a new one.
No I don't need a new one. I want to repair this one.
You can fix ignorant because that is simply a lack of knowledge. You can't fix stupid and your friend is stupid. Get a dog, you'll be much happier.
She’s retarded. Good luck!
Kek!
https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/the-sunk-cost-fallacy/
Ask them why biden shut down OUR pipelines, but gave putin permission to build HIS pipeline. Make your friend blow a gasket trying to explain that logic.
Thats exactly what I keep telling lefties when they try and "call out", Trump supporters for "not having even a fundamental understanding of economics, and that Biden doesn't control inflation".
They are so fundamentally retarded
Those two sentences don't relate in the way you think they do.
not only did biden shut down our pipelines. Biden took trump sanctions off of the russion pipeline. ask your libtard friend to explain that.
This one is still mind boggling that passes right over their heads.
I've dissociated with anyone that far up the deepstates ass. They arent good friends anyways
She is an excellent friend.
One of the few people in life I know I could depend on. It is why it bugs me so much that she's been brainwashed.
Sir, I hope for all and especially for your sake our world does not spiral down to the point where wrong think gets you put in a camp.
Your friend's programming is so complete that your trustworthy friend will immediately report you to the authorities believing wholeheartedly that she is doing the right thing and also that she is helping you by providing you with an intervention to resolve your wrong think.
You will meanwhile be in a concentration camp where your best outcome is that they simply kill you quickly. The more likely outcome is that they will torture you physically and mentally until you are re-educated into right think and if that is taking too long they will kill you instead.
Good luck to you.
She would never do that.
History is not on your side here. Please better acquaint yourself with what happens when people are divided into right and wrong think groups and the regime in place campaigns for the wrong thinkers to be reported to the government for their own good as well as for the good of the country/ society.
Edit:
Reading further down in this thread I see you have indicated this woman is your wife. Well in that case, keep trying your best. Good luck to you. I would never suggest dissolving a marriage for the scenario you described thus far. I was under the impression this woman was not yet your wife when I responded earlier.
I did say this in response to another comment
However, although my Wife is my best friend, the friend I'm talking about in the title is my best friend and I think my wife's best friend also.
Ugh. That level of brainwashing is so deep that you may need to reconsider the value of that relationship in your life. Some people will be incapable of moving forward, data cannot change their paradigm. Yuri Bezmenov warned us of this.
https://youtu.be/IQPsKvG6WMI
Data simply cannot change their perspective they are permanently broken. Sorry for your loss.
She is reachable, I am 100% sure of it.
I'm just so bad at it.
I'm not going to give up.
you're a good friend for that
Good thirsty orbiter you mean.
Hey nothing wrong with having a few cool platonic female friends. They are one of the best ways to meet new potential romantic interests in fact.
Your friend might not be entirely wrong. I do think Putin is cooperating to break the NWO/Cabal. I think many countries are. Honestly Biden is so much of a failure, there are days I think he’s cooperating lol
Oh Lawd!
My own family think I am insane. I get called terrible things. I can't wait for the light to shine on the truth. I will be walking away from some folks.Even Jesus said of the people that wouldn't except the Word to dust off your feet and move on. God Won
I am very fortunate that Wifey is a very tolerant normie. She is pretty much with me on this stuff but I have to be careful not to be too pushy. I can't talk about it all the time even though I'm thinking about it all time.
Be patient, ask questions, never try to tell them what to think. It will take more time for some people to wake up but from my experience asking a question and then moving on to another subject not debating with them works. " Why would this administration shut down a pipeline construction? it doesn't make sense" Over time after enough seeds have been planted your friend will come around.
What do they call you??
That I'm out of my mind. I'm obsessed, I'm a moron. Oh right Trump is returning and so is Elvis. Stop talking you sound crazy. Some just don't realize the serious condition of the world and our country. Our very basic freedoms are at stake let alone the crimes that are being committed. Particularly against the children. Millions go missing. The severity of the circumstances before us. We must take our country back from these reprobates.WWG1WGA
Ah they conflate the beliefs held by us aware of the genuine political and medical corruption of our governments and those held by the fringe sect of Qanon baby boomers who grew up without the internet and thus end up buying into the countless unsubstantiated claims (readily found on telegram and youtube) in their desperate pursuit of hopium.
I know how that goes. It definitely makes me want to give them baby shaking syndrome when they behave and speak condescendingly as if to deny that our beliefs are the result of constantly updated, analyzed and critiqued research that is always ongoing and subject to being ameliorated whenever new information is made available.
Hang in there fren. The truth has a funny way of punching its way out into the sunlight as time goes on.
First of all there is no Qanon, secondly it is not a fringe group and it is not true that facts are unsubstantiated. So your sarcasm is not appreciated. Your right about the fact the truth will come forth. I suggest you go else where to amuse yourself. I find it rather interesting and disturbing that you chose baby shaking as a reference, speaks volumes. Bye.
I think you are greatly confused. No sarcasm at all here. There is the Q movement and there are those Qanons who travel to Dallas to await the resurrection of JFK Jr and Michael Jackson. They believe the absurd unsubstantiated claims from the likes of Charlie Ward and Simon Parkes.
The Q movement is made up of us who understand that this is a grassroots movement and our involvement is necessary to produce change. And that sitting back and waiting for Trump to save us while believing that all the bad guys have been executed, is just not the way to go about this.
...speaks volumes... lol you took all of that the completely wrong way 😂😂
I don't think so. I will wait and remain hopeful. For many things to become public. Maybe some things said are far fetched, a lot isn't.
There is just as much disinformation on our side as there is coming from the mainstream media. Don't be fooled into thinking our movement hasn't been infiltrated by phony truthers.
Just like Jan 6th. Agent provocateurs are very much a thing and they are going to do their best to look like Trump supporters only looking to help our cause, when they are actually working to trip us up and make us feel like we've lost.
Nope, she is as smart as a tack.
But she watches cable TV news channels a lot.
She is programmed by them.
Unfortunately, those who devour MSM cannot fathom that they are being lied to. About 4 months ago I had a conversation with my middle sister. These were the words she spoke, "My gosh, if we can't believe the news media, we are in a world of trouble." I looked at her and asked if she understood why I have been beating that dead horse for over 4 years. She's awake now, but I know she still has a hard time believing some of the things that I spend hours researching. That's ok, she took the first vax and had covid within a week, her double vaxxed husband also had it when she did. They aren't taking any more shots. So, I'm happy with that one small gain.
One of my closest friends is a fellow OR scientist … he is also a flaming liberal. He wasnt brainwashed until Trumps second year when the TDS started to manifest on a mass scale. I am 100% convinced that the Mass Formation Psychosis thing is absolutely real. Not even a question open for debate anymore.
Im with you … Im holding out hope for our friends.
Thanks for the comment. I will never renounce my friend, and I don't think she will renounce me because of this divide. We just have to get through it.
Critical thinking skills are really important.
They are.
But for a normie that is so invested in what she's been told all this time... To renounce it all is quite difficult. She would have to admit she was wrong. She has so many normie friends that are all in on the government narrative.
Fren, one thing. I don't know if you listen to X22, but the first 3-4 minutes of his podcast today really addresses your situation. Happy Friday!
Thanks fren. I have listened to x22 but not lately I will check them out.
The one tonight applies to your situation. Lmk what you think.
I have friends like that too, fren. Our dearest frens are so very sweet, so smart, and exposed to truth. Double jabbed butttttt they are coming around. Try to be patient, love her anyway.
I can't explain it.
She is very intelligent.
I have a lot of other normie friends also, none of them are dumb. Highly successful in life. Two of them are in Antarctica or on their way there at them for a vacation cruise.
This mental programming is incredibly effective and very hard to break through.
It's also important to point out that they now have to use trains instead of the pipeline, and the trains have heavy democrat investors, such as Elizabeth warren. The trains also cost considerably more than using a pipeline
Warren Buffet gave Xiden 50 mil to shut it down
Your friend isn't a normie, your friend is a full bore leftist liberal. I don't tolerate those kind of people. I especially don't befriend them. As a matter of fact I don't even know anyone that brain dead.
She's not even a leftist.
Y'all need to realize what we are dealing with here.
She's a very smart woman who trusts the media and her government.
We want to win this thing. And turning people like my friend is the key. She will eventually have that moment where she figures it out but I don't know how to make it happen.
Just shunning her doesn't accomplish anything.
They'll tell you that pipeline was for tar sand. TAR SAND! As if sticky, viscous sand can travel down the pipeline.
But they'll tell you it was meant for China and shutting down the pipeline was negligible towards the price of gas.
Wouldn't the fuel order it was meant to become need to still be fulfilled? So that fuel come from the market...
oh man... how in the hell. reminds me of that chick when they asked "if you are travelling 80 mph how long would it take you to go 80 miles" and she oh my damned it... i think her answer was 58 mins... haha enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qhm7-LEBznk
The marriage is sadly doomed because he is mocking his own wife for what, internet points?
No, my friend is not a ditz. She is informed and very fast on the uptake. It isn't about her intelligence.
She is obviously not informed
Yes, we have different information sources and this is the root of the problem.
She thinks my information sources are AlEx JoNes level conspiracy bullshit.
But I can't just insist she look any information because she just rejects and doesn't want to look at it. I can't push it or I will lose my best friend.
Except, she's not, and you see past this because you want to shag her and are in denial about that too.
My best friend sounds the same. She's insanely smart and also and amazing friend who has always been there for me even in some really fucked up circumstances. We've been close for 25 years. I started to distance myself from her since things have gotten crazy because I didn't want to argue over politics, (we've never agreed and had quite a few debates over the years).
She seems to take a little bit if a middle ground stance of knowing something is off but I honestly just think she's a victim of her own ego and also she cares deeply about "fitting in" and she herself has teased me about being a "conspiracy theorist" many times so accepting this government collusion is like labeling herself in a way.
I decided I didn't want to lose her friendship and while we do talk about current events a little, for the most part I just try to avoid these topics. I think something very real will have to happen like vax injury or something to change her, it's out of my hands. I do, however, have some amazingly based friends who I talk in detail about all this shit so it fills the void.
Yes I think people are way too quick to throwing away friendships over this stuff.
I hope your best friend eventually comes around.
This are grasping at very thin straws. They will figure it out in a bit,I bet.
At least you both agree that Trump is all-powerful.
Did they rage at you, call you a stupid head, and unfriended you in IRL?
'Cuz that's what's my liberals friends do to me when present the truth to them.
No she did none of that.
I'm trying to explain to people that she is a great friend a trusted friend.
She has strong opinions and so do it. We agree to disagree. She is NOT an SJW nutjob.
Ask your friend how Trump has ANY control over gas prices if Biden is actually president.
And Biden funded a russian pipeline right after shutting down ours
Not a friend, a sheeple!
Nope. A true friend.
To win this without a civil war we always have to be thinking about how to break the programming instead of just giving up on them.