The Surveillance and Political Spying Operations Highlighted by John Durham Are the Tip of the Iceberg
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Very few people have as deep an understanding of Spygate/Russiagate as Sundance does at The Conservative Tree House. I encourage everyone to search his site for more info on this topic. Click the additional links in his articles and explore around. This is crucial to understand everything you need to know about Durham and spygate.
Conservative treehouse was my #1 place during the election and throughout Trump's presidency. I had done my research about Obama and everything he did and said confirmed my fear was justified. I prayed sincerely about who to support during the primary and was lead to Trump.
After Sundance took his trip to Washington, he changed. He never shared what he learned and after the steal, he seemed defeated and essentially told us to live our best life. That's when i found GW and Q. I need the breadcrumbs and the hope.
And I am so glad I did. Learning about the evil that's out there is depressing, but not understanding the why would be so much worse.. Knowing some great people are on our side and they are God centered has kept me mainly calm and given me moments of pure joy. I thank you all for this peace in the storm.
Well said and likely true for many of us here. For last 5 years, those I've found most knowledgeable and credible on the issues are also. as you say "God centered." A happy coincidence and comfort in these times.
Perhaps his ego got a bit hurt when he was told, while in Washington, that Q is real and follow the plan. Something like “thanks for your hard work, but we’ve got this”. Could be, and I believe, he was very close and right on target of a lot of it, however, I would bet he was told to let it play out, it’s not time yet. The timing has to be perfect.
SPOT ON insight here. I think Sundance is a great researcher...but that he was butthurt after his DC trip to (maybe?) be reminded that he doesn't know it ALL. Being reminded of our hubris can be an ugly wakeup call sometimes.
I remember when that happened, he was absolutely dejected but not butt hurt. It makes no sense that he would have been dejected if he found out that things were actually happening behind the scenes. He'd have the opposite reaction wouldn't you think? Instead it was I did the best I could and that's all there is. That was a rough day on voat when that posted. But this well before devolution theory proposed, not sure if Wictor had even posted on it yet.
What CTH ran into was the silos. In his own words it doesn't sound like he never got beyond 1 which is where the despair part, that's it, comes from. At best, he got in front of someone on the HIC like Nunes. And all Nunes was seeing was what his committee had access to,1 silo. And at that time all Nunes could say without breaking classified info was that bad shit happened. Not what was happening to correct it as he likely did not know yet. All speculation of course as most of this is.
i was banned for posting Q stuff
Hahaha. No you weren’t.
The Treehouse doesn’t ban anyone.
Why get pissed? Has he ever tried to debunk Q?
Sundance is very thorough in his research. I imagine it would be easy for a guy like him to disprove....if he could. Perhaps he cannot 😉
Sundane's biggest letdown was when he found out the Swamp is way bigger and deeper than he imagined. He thought everyone pretending to be a white hat was gonna gasp in disbelief of his hard work and research and take up the cause for rightousness and when they told him 'Yea, ok, we know. Now go home and we will handle it' he got his ego shattered. Has never been the same since.
Well, I mean, it’s a lot to process. I’m still struggling with it. And I was obsessed with the drops from the very beginning.
For illustrative purposes I refer back to me becoming a Christian. I had a lot of smart people to guide me through my questions, my doubts, etc., and I was lucky most of the people around me made sense.
One of the things that took me away from Q for a while were the completely basless and outrageous theories and comments and predictions, which of course never came true. That made me begin to doubt more that I had before. Like if all of a sudden all the Christians around me started saying that the sun was green when I can clearly see it was orange, I would question them and everything they believe, which would include their Christianity.
Again, from the perspective of a new Christian. That would’ve really turned me off. I might’ve made brought assumptions about Christianity in general based upon those people who I saw as it’s representatives. That wouldn’t have made my doubts real or true, but it probably would’ve happened because I’m human.
I’ve tried to turn a lot of people on to the great awakening and to Q in general, and had trouble because they see some of the stuff that’s been spread around that’s completely ridiculous and stupid about holograms and adult fully formed clones, and I don’t blame them.
Rubber airplanes, stand-ins for politicians who were supposedly executed, “Trump will be re-instated by February and if you don’t believe it you’re a commie!!!”, “the fences around DC are for mass arrests and if you don’t believe it you’re a shill!!!!!” and so forth turned them off
The couple of friends that I have successfully turned onto this idea, I was able to get them to come to places like this that are more rational and more realistic. That helps. You guys have absolutely no idea how important this place is, although think some of you do know.
I used to run a very small message for him that was based almost entirely on Q and on drops. But it pretty much fizzled out because of all of the wild speculation going on in December, January, and February after the election. I probably should’ve been a little tighter with moderation, but I let people say whatever they wanted to say and there were a lot of Deculus theories and ideas and tons of bullshit and you had to believe it or you were an asshole. It fizzled out and I closed it. I was at a low point then.
I know everyone here thinks I’m a Doomer, but I’m really not, I want to believe more than any of you will ever really know because you have more faith than I do that this is all real.
As far as Sundance goes, I don’t know what his personal experiences are, but if he has seen some of the things that I saw, I don’t blame him at all for not wanting to hear about Q anymore. It really is a lot to swallow. And some of the representatives aren’t exactly… Mentally stable. I know I get a lot of hate for saying that, and I do wonder if some of them are plants made to look the movement like a bunch of cultists. But it works if that’s what it is.
I’m sure that pisses off a lot of people here, but they don’t understand what an outsider thinks at times, and I think it’s instructive to realize that we need to get all the little things right. If we are the arbors of truth, if we are the ones who see truth when others he lies, then we have to be on point with our facts. I’ve seen people say things that are utterly ludicrous.
For example, I think that I have a pretty good grasp on why the vaccines are so dangerous and so destructive, but I’ve seen people spew some of the worst scientifically asinine bullshit I’ve ever seen to try to explain why they are dangerous and deadly. That would turn off, for example, a virologist or an epidemiologist, who has a deep understanding of how this shit works, and they aren’t going to have a good impression of the movement if that’s all they see.
That’s why I always question everything, because I wanna make sure it’s right. Not because I am a Doomer, but because I want to make sure we have all of our facts straight and all of our ducks in a row because we say some things that are really difficult for people to believe unless we are completely on point with our facts.
I know I make people angry with it sometimes, but I don’t toe the line for any narrative, even our own, unless I can verify it, question it 50 million times, and still come out at the other end believing it. Even to the point of stretching credulity to the breaking point just to make sure we are correct.
I would rather take the default that the things that we think or the things we decode, or the messages we receive, are complete bullshit, and then prove it from that perspective, overcome it with overwhelming facts, instead of just accepting it. I know that rubs people the wrong way, because I questioned them, I questioned things they say, and they think I’m not on their side. But I’ll take it.
There are a number of times that I see people drawing red boxes around one set of numbers and drawing a line to another set of numbers and drawing a line to a picture and then there’s three more lines that draw to different sets of codes and numbers and letters and all the other shit and I can absolutely see how it’s just a coincidence and people think I’m stupid or a shill or a communist for not buying right in.
But when I see something that I buy into, I know that it’s coming from a place of skepticism that’s turned into belief. I’d rather have that than just eat up everything that’s fed to me. Again, I know that pisses people off, but it makes me more comfortable than ever that I know we’re onto something. Because I don’t just swallow everything. That’s not for everyone, they prefer to do it a different way, and God bless them.
For this place? I think most people here have more discernment about Q than other places I’ve been to. That’s why I love this place so much. I see people correcting inaccurate posts and inaccurate theories and they survive.
I’m sure at some point I’ll get temp banned again like I’ve been before, because I just come across as a dOoMeR, but I’m OK with it. I’m a guest here, I understand the rules.
But knowing this place exists, with these people who have discernment and judgment, makes me happy.
I ask for guidance and wisdom from God and I don't worry about anything else. Have I lost those that I thought were friends? Yes. Does it hurt? Yes. But there is a price for knowledge.
The biggest problem within the Q movement is no central authority. This is also Q biggest strength. Because there is no central authority crazy shit gets posted by anon who are either black hats or just the crazier of society that have taken their own garbage and repackaged it as Q stuff. I am agnostic on Q just because we only have Ques words that he is a white hat in government. excusing all of this that I have mentioned Q has inserted concepts and information into the gestalt of the information war that needed to be iserted.
I'm really struggling with how long it is taking for justice to be enacted. It drives me crazy when people say hold the line type crap as if time will somehow make this all go away? IMHO grass roots is taking too long. People have very short memories and they forget the pain they have lived through in favor of the need to focus on their day to day lives. Sometimes it feels like a sick game from both sides. What is your opinion on the anger, apathy or despair some of us are feeling about the delays even when we are thrown a bone once in awhile to keep us engaged?
The only Sundance I know, and don't care about,, is Robert Tedforfs' film festival. Anons are snon fior a reason, hearling do man mentions of "Sundance" screams Paytriot and AstroTurf. Not orgamic,.no thanks. Anyone who wants to be a leader of any movement shhould be the last person to consider.
Well written 👍
I'm right there with you u/Notimportant81 I had much of the same pathway here. Sundance is an excellent researcher and connected so many dots. I agree with your perception that he seemed deflated. Not that we all haven't at times. But like you, I need hope and a plan of action. I will never give up, never give in. Our country is worth saving and I will do whatever it takes.
Let's continue to ride!
u/#Ridetofreedom
u/#Clownworld
u/#Honkler
Wait?!! My foot’s caught in the stirrups & you’re dragging me!!!
That's what happens when you ride in sneakers.
u/#catdance
One thing he taught me from that trip is that congress members are in purposeful information silos. That has Really stuck with me. It explains So much. For example my husband is in a weird nyc Instagram information silos. But he’s married to it. It’s his identity. These willful information silos- definitely made worse by social media- seem to define everyone n everything lately. Enhanced by every villain we already know- Big tech- Big academics- Big media. I pray the Great Awakening SHATTERS it all! That’s my prayer
agreed....hes black pilled and doomer
There are many who believe Durham is a larp and is a waste of taxpayers' money. I'm just saying don't kill the messager.
Truth....
Yes, the more I re read, and re research this topic the more I see even more clearly how corrupt they ALL are.
...corruption is like ugly...
...it goes all the way to the bones....
Masks partially cover FUGLY.
Been following Sundance since Trayvon Martin. His research is without peer.
Trayvon was the original george floyd, except he could have been Obama's son.
He JUST wanted doze Skittles??
Same here. Found the Treehouse at the beginning of the Trayvon lies. One of the places I read that is solidly pro freedom.
I’m not familiar with Sundance ... but I see him (?) referenced a lot in this thread. Can you point me?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
He is one of the best open source researchers on the net but I dont always agree with his conclusions. Well at least I dont in this case.
Nobody has documented FISAgate and spygate better than he does and his understanding of it is breathtaking. He is also a good writer and makes the difficult subject matter easily digestible.
He has people like Lou Dobbs, Sidney Powell and Sarah Palin who occasionally post in the comment section and quote his material.
He is definitely not a Q guy but has never been openly hostile to it though some poster have been. Even more are Q followers though just quiet about it. Take the site as it is and dont rock the Q boat. There is no point in disrupting a quality site.
Despite all he is a Patriot. Just more in the normie spectrum than most here are.
Thank you so much. I will definitely go read. My husband is less Q than I am but will strongly identify with this sort of approach.
I think he is part of the plan. Deliberately used misinformation to keep us occupied through the election. So many conservatives were hanging out there until after the election. Remember he stayed at the Trump Hotel and was secretive about that visit. Why?
If the President is being spied on, know that you and your friends and family are as well, and you should be just as concerned that you and your family are targets of this stasi-bullshit, if not more, as you likely do not have the financial means to hire teams of lawyers to expose it. Either study the law to be ready to defend yourself or never use an electronic device again.
Mine’s in the lake every nite by my fishing pole. Then every morning I gotta fetch it…sigh.
I love my Casio, too!
Yeah, the "don't worry about the spying if you have nothing to hide" is fully retarded bullshit. Do you respect your privacy? The privacy of others? If you are a US citizen, gtfo. if you'te not and don't respect the constitutional right to privacy in the USA, then stfu about what rights US citizens should disregard. Rights are given by God, they not privileges doled out by the generosity of government.
*Sorry for the rudeness, but completely stand behind what I've said.
These people also do a good job & may have things the Tree house doesn't as far as the Clintons are concerned: https://twitter.com/clintonpay2play
I'm surprised they are still on Twatter. Wouldn't they have been banned during the great purge?
I'm going to answer you privately about this