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Today on "Know Your Dictators" we profile VLADIMIR PUTIN. He is not a saint. But some seem content to write him off as the devil incarnate. He is not that either. (turcopolier.com)
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– spiggot 39 points 4 years ago +39 / -0

Strong leaders are required to control some regions.

The West likes to demonise strong leaders who are forced to do some distasteful things (in our eyes living in "peaceful" nations) in order to keep order.

I strongly believe that Putin is doing what is best for Russia, like Trump was doing what's best for America.

"But Putin is against homosexuals", yeah, because he knows that the "slipery slope" is real. Just look at where the West is now.

Homosexuality used to be quietly accepted in the West, as in if you keep it quiet and don't flaunt it, then people will keep quiet about it. Now we have gay marches in the West and have moved on to the completely evil idea that "well we accept gay people as a sexual orientation, so why don't we accept pedophilia as a sexual orientation?".

I am ashamedly one of those people who didn't used to believe in the slippery slope argument, but I now realise it was totally correct.

Sexuality, sex, fetishes etc. those should all be kept private and not promoted within society.

The primary goal of a society is survival and the best way to do that is to focus society on the interests of children, which is to have an intact family with a mother and father and to keep children away from all things sexual. There's more to it, of course, but we should all agree that's a good start!

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– G45Colt 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

All good points. And also the same reasons the DS went after families, and have done everything they can to break up families.

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– BoomBoomClap 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I understand what you’re saying to a degree, but the right isn’t always right either. TL;DR gay marriage cannot be logically or morally illegal when the church is supposed to be separate from the state. Like it or not, you can’t make religious arguments against it when an atheist and a Jew can walk into any courthouse and get married. Of course, no church should be compelled to perform them. The fact remains however that the government grants marital privileges that have nothing to do with religion. The only logical argument is that the government should stay out of marriage completely, and it should remain within the church.

“But the slippery slope and polygamy.” The government does not currently recognize polygamy.

The flaunting of it needs to do a 180 though. We don’t need a gay character in every piece of media. And of course children shouldn’t be exposed to anything sexual.

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– VetforTrump 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I'm not a right or left winger, I believe In freedom. Wanna be gay, go-ahead. Make sure I never hear about it as of you bring it into my sphere I will protect that sphere. I'll then openly oppose your shit.

I didn't hire gay people when I was in the position of hiring if they were blatant about it.

Come ro an interview with any of the following:

  1. florescent color3d hair
  2. Painted nails
  3. Rainbow patches
  4. Eccentric look at me accouterments.

Having said that, I hired at least 2 gay men who came in and interviewed well. Kept it about the job MD i didn't even find out until much later they were gay.

Didn't care, good employees amd no drama. I'm not out to hurt people but if you come to hire with an agenda you will advertise it. Trannies, wouldn't even interview them. May as well go to the mental hospital and hire people.

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– numina18 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Well said, fren.

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– BoomBoomClap 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I agree with this 100%. My overall point about gay marriage was how the Right likes to look at it like a slippery slope without stepping back and considering the slippery slope the government has been on for decades. I shouldn’t be able to pluck a random schmuck off the streets and pay less in taxes after legally marrying them but here we are.

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– UnbreakablePatriot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Shouldn't have to pay taxes either.

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– BIGRED1993 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well put.

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– spiggot 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yep, I agree.

I have no problem with people being gay at all. I have some gay friends and worked with gay people, it's no issue at all.

But there is a part of the gay culture that is just not good for society, much like there are parts of heterosexual culture that are bad for society (fetish groups, partner swapping, cuckolding etc).

The purpose of hiding that degeneracy away is to keep children and impressionable minds from seeing it.

Sexuality is supposed to be private and kept out of the public view. Do what you want in the privacy of your own bedroom, but keep that off the TV and out of the public discourse.

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– Mostprobably 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What someone does isn’t what someone is.

It’s wrong, and it’s because we have a weak society that we see people act weak

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– portuguesemama123 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Can an argument be made for the purpose of the law? Is the law in place to protect the status of marriage and the dependents that live within it? Or is the law in place to protect the "rights" of the consenting adult, regardless of the impact on society or laws that govern the rights of the married?

In blue states, children are treated as chattel by the state when a divorce occurs. The toxic, parasitic behavior of each spouse is tolerated as they have the right to be "imperfect" rather than a duty to be "good enough" parents or spouses.

I am no legal expert, but come from the perspective of dealing with the fall out of hedonism as a Clinician.

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– shoafville819 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The problem with gay marriage is the contradiction to natural law. If gays can marry, anyone can marry...so marry you mother?! Gays can form partnerships to share property, but marriage insinuates children, whether you have any or not. The state has an interest in protecting children. I remember when gays were saying they just wanted to be left alone...how's that going now?

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– BoomBoomClap 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That’s the problem, consenting gay adult couples COULDN’T share property or healthcare privileges before they had state marriage privileges. That’s my overall point, the government needs to stay out what consenting adults wish to do. (The government in general is too big.)

I live in a red state and right now I know of a father who was denied emergency custody of a child who was severely and permanently injured after being left unattended by their incompetent mother and this is not the first incident. How’s that going, the state protecting children?

And LEGALLY marriage does not insinuate children at all. You can get married to any random schmuck off the street for money, Healthcare, and even better tax rates. If marriage is supposed to be sacred, how is that sacred? That’s why I said the government needs to stay out of it.

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– Callmejuls 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Those things are all abominations in God’s eyes and should be in all of ours as well if we love God and believe his word is whole and true and just. I know I do.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Of course it's an abomination. How we respond to it is also part of God's commandments.

We resist evil. Very minimal effort, we bless our enemies and curse not, but we don't make confederacy with them.

Love basically is the answer.

Sin is sin, there is no degree to it. Sin is separation from God, broken fellowship with Him. Even believers break fellowship and sin. Otherwise whatbis forgiveness for if we are so perfect.

Love covers the multitude of sin, so love. It's a simple formula.

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– undine53 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

As long as he is on the side of the angels and helps to bring down the DS rats, I really don't care.

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– lovecymru 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He kicked out George Soros, 3 churches a day are started under his administration. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/30-years-after-the-fall-of-the-soviet-union-the-christian-culture-is-reviving-in-russia/

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– undine53 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good man.

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– HatePickingUserNames 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

There is a big difference:

  • Trump has to remain popular in the US to win an election. Attacking him does undermine him.

  • Whether Putin is popular in the US or not does not matter. He only needs to be popular in Russia. And having the US hate him actually does not hurt him in Russia and may even benefit him there.

Also, the cabal is not stupid even though lots of people on this forum seem to think that they are. You underestimate your enemy at your own peril. So the question is, don't you think it would benefit the cabal to control both sides in a conflict? That way, they can orchestrate conflicts as it suits them. And it does suite them. I would put money that leader on both sides (Putin and Xiden) will gain popularity from this operation in their countries even though on the face of it, the outcome for Xiden's side will be a total failure. However, the media is already blaming high gas prices and supply chain issues on a conflict that started recently (unlike the issues) and they are saturating the airways with Ukraine stories, essentially sidelining everything else.

As for Putin, I do consider the possibility that maybe he against the cabal or maybe at best, on his own side. However, the following behavior is suspicious:

  1. The media was foreshadowing a conflict in Ukraine for a few weeks. With the COVID narrative having fallen apart (reduction in fear, undermining their mass psychosis op), the Canadian Truckers undermining them, and with it coming out that the Trump campaign was spied on worse than Watergate, it very much looked like they needed a narrative change or they risked losing control. And Putin gave it to them. Why? And the airways are now full of just the Ukraine story from some many angles it seems ridiculous.

  2. Why would Putin invade in late winter. It seems that a better time would early winter or late fall, when Europe was most vulnerable to the natural gas supply shortages. Did he want to make sure that Europe could claim to take a hard line on him by cutting natural gas from Russia when it wouldn't actually matter as they could manage off their stored reserves? Did he need Europe's money to fight this war so wanted to sell as much natural gas in late fall and early winter so he would not lose much money when Europe cut it off as a meaningless show of strength. Or was it simply that a narrative change was required at a particular time so that is when he needed to do it.

  3. The West's and Putin's Russian propaganda are on equal footing. Both are full of lies or rhetoric. Putin is calling all the Ukrainian leader Nazis. Reminds me of Antifa. It wouldn't go on a limb and say all or even most of the Ukrainian leaders are good, but even if they are cabal (and probably are), that does not mean they are Nazis. This is just dishonest rhetoric. I'm not saying the western media doesn't do this, but he is no better in this regard.

Best case scenario is that Putin is a rouge agent who is not on the cabal's side but no on our side either. He might be on his own side. Worst case scenario is that he is controlled opposition.

You don't have to believe anything written here. But you should at least be open to the idea that it could be true. If you get angry reading this, than you should ask yourself why? Am I being manipulated?

Personally, it would be nice if Putin was on our side. However, I don't see any evidence for this. He at best acts in his own interest.

Also, let's not forget, that this is the same guy that executed a large portion of the Polish government back in 2010 by downing their plane. Then he went prancing around with the leader of their opposition, Donald Tusk (100% deep state) for photo ops. Poland and Russia had a treaty that they would have the right to investigate any of their plane crashes on each other's soil. Tusk waived that right to ensure that a real investigation would never take place (Putin ended up doing the investigation). Going into all the insane things that surround that whole incident would take too long, but long story short, Putin sure seems to co-operate with some deep state operatives at times and he certainly does some reprehensible things. There is no scenario in which he is the good guy.

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– ceegeegee 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You don't have to believe anything written here. But you should at least be open to the idea that it could be true. If you get angry reading this, than you should ask yourself why? Am I being manipulated?

I think this is critical because it is very easy to slide back into the emotional "yay for our side!" which is a big part of how we got to this point. Open mind does not mean open minded to my kind of open mindedness. You may not like it, but that doesn't make it false.

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– HatePickingUserNames 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I would agree that right now, we actually don't know what is going on in Ukraine. It could very well be that there are no good players and everyone is just doing what suits them.

We may find out what this was about when the dust settles and we see what ended up getting accomplished.

My only concern is that a lot of people on this forum have blindly jumped on the Putin band wagon. It might be because they rightfully see how corrupt and controlled Ukraine is and they think that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. However, that adage does not always hold. The deep state is fully capable of controlling both sides and creating minor conflicts to distract us from what is really happening. All these republican Rinos are a good example of controlling both sides in a political system.

We should always be skeptical in every situation and event. Maybe Putin will end up doing some good in Ukraine and maybe it will push our cause forward. However, until we see concrete evidence of that, I would not take a side and continue to be skeptical personally.

It is also an interesting fact, that Putin has now taken territory under Obama and under Xiden (with Obama almost certainly in the background). Never took any territory under Trump. It makes you think, are they letting him do this. Maybe the deep state leaders are just weak, but with how crazy they are and how little they care for human life, I find it hard to believe that if they wanted to keep Ukraine intact for themselves, they wouldn't resort to insanely unethical measures to get their way. At face value, things don't entirely make sense. Likely means we don't have the whole picture.

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– HatePickingUserNames 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't trust the Western media which includes the US media. But I also don't trust Putin's media. Right now, I can only speculate on what might be going on as I don't trust any of the information out there.

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– numina18 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

rogue. rouge.

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– Prayeradime12 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The more I learn, the more I realize that the same could be said of Hitler, imHo.

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– Apache_Hmoob_Vaj 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I've listen to a lot of his talks. He seem like a person who keeps his words. Clear, and concise.

The way he walks, carry or conduct himself shows confident and leadership.

There's a video of him speaking to a CEO and telling him to sign a doc and scolding him and the people in the round table. It looked like a Father Scolding a Son, but in a "here's some advice" kind of manner instead of a "i'm power hungry" manner.

Overall, this guy's a true gentleman unlike what the media wants us to perceive him as.

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– Island_Photo 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Also a heck of a better person than Pelosi or Schumer..

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– Imwideawake 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Yes! Two things can be true at the same time. So tired of the blanket generalizations. Just like the lefties crying we should remove statues of our founding fathers because they were slave owners. Read the book of Daniel. God uses hard people for his purposes. Maybe Putin is only a son of a bitch. But maybe he’s not. Let’s see what happens.

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– VetforTrump 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Agreed. Suddenly the media is correct? Who has told us about putin all these years? why did we hate him? He was lied about as much as trump.

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– DarQ2light 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Putin is not a saint, Trump is not a saint, and newsflash, none of us are Saints. But I love Trump and Putin because they're doing more than any of us can.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Who called them saints? Jesus Christ asked "why you calling me good?"

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Putin does not care about the freedom of a country, he cares that Russia does not fall into globalism.

and if that means attacking any country, he will do it, if that leads him to be listed as Dictator, he won't care.

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– corrbrick 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Seems to me that Putin allowed Russia to follow the globalist COVID script. Causes me to wonder about his nationalism.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If Russia returns to globalism rhey won't be free either.

The deep state built the soviet union. I'm not sure it collapsed for any other reason than globalism operating communism is a giant failure no matter how you cut it.

They have the same in store for us.

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– Moman 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Putin is a Russian Patriot, for Russia. He will do what ever he can to save Russia. If iit helps the rest of the planet soo be it, but make no mistake, Russia comes first in his eyes.

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– Moman 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I 100% agree.

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– deltadog 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Putin and Gaddafi rejected the world banks. They are now, "globaly" hated

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– g8rb81 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Putin is bad. What we're fighting is EVIL. We need to kill that first.

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– pearlrevolver 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Why is Russian man bad?

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– pnwhomebrewer 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

“The tv told me so!!!!”

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– DesertBrat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's exactly it. My husband still watches Fox. I catch snippets here and there of the, Russia is bad and poor Ukraine.

Doesn't matter what I say. He goes right back to the drug that is drama 24/7 on msm. I'm convinced that it is an addiction. It's like trying to get an alcoholic to quit drinking.

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– Strelnieks 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I can say there is no love lost for Putin in the Baltic area. Hell, my (like 90% of others) family was greatly effected by Soviet occupation. But, the war crimes of a long dead govt cannot be held over the heads of Russia today.

But, this comes partly with bias and of course some measure of deceit from the Russian govt.

Russia is guilty of FF against it's own people to justify war as well. Look into FF events that led Russia to invade the Caucauses as a widely known example.

My personal belief is that Putin is on the right side of history this time around. I very much like the widely plausible Q theory that he is working with 45 to stop the global cabal. I've seen more evidence over time to suggest this opposed to the MSM fear narrative of erhmagerdh! Putin is trying to reacquire former satellite states!

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– corrbrick 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He also had no problem with the globalist COVID script.

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– portuguesemama123 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Catsfive, thank you for the relevant posts! This is the conversation we have at home -- who are the best leaders in a world gone crazy?

I personally would rather be born in a country where decapitation, torture, etc. is an unacceptable approach to disagreement (middle east) or where liberal protestors are free to rape, burn, pillage, and murder in the name of freedom. Some have said he has a "Might is Right" philosophy -- I think as this article suggests, he has a "Christian Morality is Right and one must be willing to take up a sword to protect it" philosophy.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If we think the media suddenly is reporting truth we have forgotten everything we have learned in the past 6 years.

I still am not convinced this shit is happening.

Not at the level they claim or in the manner they say.

Millionairres donning military gear? Guy must have political aspirations for when this is over and I'll bet he doesn't really expect to fight.

In this case I hope I'm right about this being a farce as we don't really need another deep state started war.

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– Ryan192 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It takes a moment, but you can actually place a light switch in the position between "on" and "off"

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– Mandigo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Putin has two daughters, and probably has grandchildren. He's not some deep state eunuch like Merkel with no children and no care for the future. He didn't settle any abuse cases or grope a child on live television. He won reelection fair and square, and allows his people to protest against him unlike Xi of Fidel jr. As far as I'm concerned, he's an enemy of our enemy.

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– Ranlove 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Excellent read. Every news correspondent should be required reading. It’s A quick synopsis of Putin.

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– cc321 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I will say again I trust him more then 98% of other politicians

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– Imwideawake 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Only listened to a part of this but it sounds like Klaus is disappointed in Putin and more admiring of their younger infil-traitors (Trudeau). Ever look back on ideas you had and feel that you were certainly fooled or brainwashed? Perhaps that’s how some who were involved with WEC now feel. I don’t know. People do learn, evolve and wake up. If Putin is really rooting out corruption in Ukraine then perhaps some of his distasteful positions can be tolerated in the short term. I suppose time will tell.

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– Ogden1Frost 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There is a swamp in Ukraine. Whether you like him or not, President Putin is a very stable genius who just drained it.

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– Jenmon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Well said.

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– SeeAreJay 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Putin...half-elf. Lawful Evil

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– catsfive [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

facile /ˈfasʌɪl,ˈfasɪl/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. ignoring the true complexities of an issue; superficial. "facile generalizations"

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