I think we have all known it to some extent for a long time, but the impact now is hitting much harder after a stolen election, with rhetoric from our propagandists that we shouldn't fear nuclear war or whatever
I'm not sure about this one. I was in Iraq in 2004 and 2008. I worked very closely with Blackwater, Triple Canopy and Dyncorp. The vast majority of the members in 2004 were all former spec ops guys, there was a large change from then to 2008. In 2008, the recruitment opened up a lot more positions to former soldiers and marines without spec ops training. This was because the number of security members were greatly increased. The vast majority were involved in personal protection of VIP's and even as protecting people like me while traveling outside of the green zone. I was not aware of any that were involved with CIA operations. I had limited involvement with the CIA in Baghdad, there was only one agent there in charge, the rest were contractors. While they were all special forces types, they were not from any of the big three Personal security companies. I don't recall the name of their contract company, but it was a name that I had never heard before, nor have I heard the name since. I have a hard time believing Erik Prince has gone off the reservation. I have never met the man, but the guys that served with him respected him as a patriot and a man of honor. The portrayal of security contractors as mercenaries for hire is probably the same percentage as bad police officers. The CIA is only interested in sociopaths. The majority of spec ops guys are screened for mental defects such as this and eliminated from the program. Perhaps the CIA picks these guys up and trains them privately and puts them to work. I just don't know. None of the hundreds of security contractors I worked with were ever involved in offensive work. Maybe that was a smaller group that I never provided tech training with, or perhaps they had their own gear. Either way, I would have come across them because our team provided the encryption for their in country radios. No one had the encryption keys but us and we loaded every single handheld, vehicle and aircraft radio in the entire country. The article calls out Blackwater by name, but that company name has been dead for well over a decade. The name changed to Zi or Xi or something but he sold the company to some investment group and has been living outside the country in the middle east, I think for the Abu Dhabi monarchy or something along those lines. The article seems to have a lot of inaccuracies and seems like there was no research and just a smear campaign. I'll look into what Prince is doing now and post what I find.
Okay, this article talks about Erik Prince's history and what he is doing now. I didn't know he was Betsy Devos' brother.
I also forgot to mention a lot of Police Officers joined these security companies to serve overseas because of the pay. I actually know a couple that didn't have any military background. They have since returned to law enforcement. Neither of these two are sociopaths, just had ex-wives that drowned them in debt and this was a way to pay all that debt off.
Most.cops that worked for BW stayed on the PSD side and never saw any agency people.
I was a bomb dog handler, so I was invisible. They would send me to search Iraqis that the Cia was going to interview when they brought them inside our lines. After 9 cia got got blown up they didn't go near anyone until we ran dogs around them.
Dyncorp was mostly in the North AOR. I spent a bit of time is Mosul, Kirkuk and Irbil. This was Kurd country and the overall sentiment among the Kurds was predominantly Anti-Saddam and anti-Bathe party. We were even staying in a Chaldean neighborhood while in Erbil and were able to freely mingle with the residents there. They even had a fake 7-11 convenience store there. I thought that was awesome.
I'm sure there were bad apples in all the companies, I'm just am not buying the simplistic narrative of they were all evil mercenary types that were robbing, pillaging, murdering rapists. I think that is more of a UN security force thing. 60k rapes over 10 years is a UN statistic, whereas there may have been a handful of bad actions on Blackwater over the same 10 years. I just get the impression that this was a article that looks like a smear against Prince and by association against Trump.
By the time I got to Iraq 2011 the war was still on but winding down. In fact Biden came and declared it over and they had to force people to watch his lame speech.
Blackwater did some bad shit. Hate to admit it because I also know they did some amazing shit too.
But, of prince is deep state influenced I would not be surprised
This ^^^. I worked with the same players in AFG. Prince was a confidant of Trump and Trump put Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos, as Secretary of Education. If Academi has a presence in UKR, it's most likely part of the plan to stand up a non-Nazi, trustworthy, fighting force, IMO.
The article I linked stated that Prince sold the company to some investors and they formed Academi. Prince left the company and started doing other ventures. I don't think he is associated with Academi at all and has no financial interest in it.
Erik is legit from as far as I can tell. Black water was completely taken over by the CIA and other ngos in the globalists pockets after the whole incident with them in 2007. That was a false flag to disgrace the company because ((they)) realized how much of a danger a company like black water was to their power. So they had to infiltrate it and take it over and Erik prince sold it over ten years ago. He seems pretty based though but can’t really tell. Now the company is just another wing of the CIA to do all types of sketchy black ops shit
Was Prince in charge of Trump’s security in the White House? I had read reports that the secret service could not be trusted so Trump had his own crew.
this is why i dont trust this story at face value. Prince (betsy Devos brother) is on Trumps team i believe. but someone in this thread said he sold blackwater and its now just a CIA front
Prince wasn't accused of using blackwater as security for Trump.
They were saying Prince had connections and friends in the industry to make a security detail for Trump (along with Princes new company). I don't know if it was rumor or speculation, but I had heard that too. It would also make sense to hire Devos if her primary function was communications between Erik and Trump and giving her a job as secretary of education.
Clowns gonna clown and Nazi's gotta stick together.
For the anon that thinks Blackwater is ok and this story might be a smear campaign, I worked closely with th Clowns and Blackwater overseas on more than one occasion. They were getting away with murder, rape, pillaging, etc throughout our time in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a poorly kept secret going back to the beginning of OIF/OEF.
Maybe, some of their contractors were good people, but most of them were hand picked by Prince himself because they share the same "loose morality" as rapists, murderers, etc. Most PMC contracted shooters do. It's what makes them effective at destabilizing nations, which is why they were sent to the ME and Africa.
Just because you weren't involved with them much and didn't see it, doesn't mean much. I know guys who were booted from the military for various offenses when we were overseas, sent home, only to return a very short time later as a well paid Backwater, Raytheon, Dyncorp, or Wackenhut asshat. Some were back within a month, others took a little longer, depending on the "training" they needed. Some of those offenses should've led to massive amounts of bring time, but didn't. Which tells me those corp's had a hand in making sure those guys weren't sent "up river" ahead of time. At the time, we didn't know why shitbirds weren't being punished properly for their crimes, amd why they were being hired by the PMC's, but now we know why.
Not trying to call you out, anon, but I saw a lot of shit overseas, in plenty of "third world shit holes" that keeps me awake at night. And te PMC's were caught up in the middle of it all...from the beginning.
Yeah, I don't know what your experiences were, but since I was loaned to the State Dept and was interacting every day with the BW guys and was friends with many. If this was a poorly kept secret, I guarantee I would have heard about it. I travelled to most of the cities in Iraq and met with the majority of BW folks. If there were incidents like this, a lot of the good people I met within the company would have reported it. If BW had folks that worked directly for the CIA, I never saw them anywhere within country and never heard anything about it. Considering I was embedded with the IRM with the State Dept, if these things were happening, I would have heard about it. The State Dept is gossip central and we knew about everything going on in country. I also had access to comms in the entire country and so did my group. None of us heard about any of this. If they were everything you said they were, it would be hard to hide this and would definitely not have sat well with the ex-military folks within Blackwater. Contrary to popular opinion, (by the media) ex-military folks keep the same morality even after they get out. Nearly all are Patriots, just not blind to the bad shit our government does. Of anything we are more aware and less likely to follow the bullshit narratives.
I have some close friends that served in Afghanistan. I'll ask the what their experiences were with the PMC's there. Where specifically were you in both countries and who were you there with?
We are the bad guys.
We have been for a long long time.
I hate it.
I think we have all known it to some extent for a long time, but the impact now is hitting much harder after a stolen election, with rhetoric from our propagandists that we shouldn't fear nuclear war or whatever
Sadly, now we get to fix this.
isnt blackwater Eric Prince, whos friends with Trump?
I'm not sure about this one. I was in Iraq in 2004 and 2008. I worked very closely with Blackwater, Triple Canopy and Dyncorp. The vast majority of the members in 2004 were all former spec ops guys, there was a large change from then to 2008. In 2008, the recruitment opened up a lot more positions to former soldiers and marines without spec ops training. This was because the number of security members were greatly increased. The vast majority were involved in personal protection of VIP's and even as protecting people like me while traveling outside of the green zone. I was not aware of any that were involved with CIA operations. I had limited involvement with the CIA in Baghdad, there was only one agent there in charge, the rest were contractors. While they were all special forces types, they were not from any of the big three Personal security companies. I don't recall the name of their contract company, but it was a name that I had never heard before, nor have I heard the name since. I have a hard time believing Erik Prince has gone off the reservation. I have never met the man, but the guys that served with him respected him as a patriot and a man of honor. The portrayal of security contractors as mercenaries for hire is probably the same percentage as bad police officers. The CIA is only interested in sociopaths. The majority of spec ops guys are screened for mental defects such as this and eliminated from the program. Perhaps the CIA picks these guys up and trains them privately and puts them to work. I just don't know. None of the hundreds of security contractors I worked with were ever involved in offensive work. Maybe that was a smaller group that I never provided tech training with, or perhaps they had their own gear. Either way, I would have come across them because our team provided the encryption for their in country radios. No one had the encryption keys but us and we loaded every single handheld, vehicle and aircraft radio in the entire country. The article calls out Blackwater by name, but that company name has been dead for well over a decade. The name changed to Zi or Xi or something but he sold the company to some investment group and has been living outside the country in the middle east, I think for the Abu Dhabi monarchy or something along those lines. The article seems to have a lot of inaccuracies and seems like there was no research and just a smear campaign. I'll look into what Prince is doing now and post what I find.
https://silentprofessionals.org/blackwater/
Okay, this article talks about Erik Prince's history and what he is doing now. I didn't know he was Betsy Devos' brother.
I also forgot to mention a lot of Police Officers joined these security companies to serve overseas because of the pay. I actually know a couple that didn't have any military background. They have since returned to law enforcement. Neither of these two are sociopaths, just had ex-wives that drowned them in debt and this was a way to pay all that debt off.
Most.cops that worked for BW stayed on the PSD side and never saw any agency people.
I was a bomb dog handler, so I was invisible. They would send me to search Iraqis that the Cia was going to interview when they brought them inside our lines. After 9 cia got got blown up they didn't go near anyone until we ran dogs around them.
Bw had two sides.
That’s good perspective. My brother did a stint with them when they were still Blackwater, had a similar impression.
But Dyncorp got away with a sordid crime ring because it was pretty well covered up.
Dyncorp was mostly in the North AOR. I spent a bit of time is Mosul, Kirkuk and Irbil. This was Kurd country and the overall sentiment among the Kurds was predominantly Anti-Saddam and anti-Bathe party. We were even staying in a Chaldean neighborhood while in Erbil and were able to freely mingle with the residents there. They even had a fake 7-11 convenience store there. I thought that was awesome.
Dyncorp is a CIA front company. They were booted from AFG for trafficking drugs, flying high, and transporting children from point a to point b.
I'm sure there were bad apples in all the companies, I'm just am not buying the simplistic narrative of they were all evil mercenary types that were robbing, pillaging, murdering rapists. I think that is more of a UN security force thing. 60k rapes over 10 years is a UN statistic, whereas there may have been a handful of bad actions on Blackwater over the same 10 years. I just get the impression that this was a article that looks like a smear against Prince and by association against Trump.
By the time I got to Iraq 2011 the war was still on but winding down. In fact Biden came and declared it over and they had to force people to watch his lame speech.
Blackwater did some bad shit. Hate to admit it because I also know they did some amazing shit too.
But, of prince is deep state influenced I would not be surprised
This ^^^. I worked with the same players in AFG. Prince was a confidant of Trump and Trump put Prince's sister, Betsy DeVos, as Secretary of Education. If Academi has a presence in UKR, it's most likely part of the plan to stand up a non-Nazi, trustworthy, fighting force, IMO.
The article I linked stated that Prince sold the company to some investors and they formed Academi. Prince left the company and started doing other ventures. I don't think he is associated with Academi at all and has no financial interest in it.
He's not. Constellis sucked up Academi. Prince has Frontier Services Group now.
I thought Erik Prince was one of the good guys ..............................
Erik is legit from as far as I can tell. Black water was completely taken over by the CIA and other ngos in the globalists pockets after the whole incident with them in 2007. That was a false flag to disgrace the company because ((they)) realized how much of a danger a company like black water was to their power. So they had to infiltrate it and take it over and Erik prince sold it over ten years ago. He seems pretty based though but can’t really tell. Now the company is just another wing of the CIA to do all types of sketchy black ops shit
Was Prince in charge of Trump’s security in the White House? I had read reports that the secret service could not be trusted so Trump had his own crew.
this is why i dont trust this story at face value. Prince (betsy Devos brother) is on Trumps team i believe. but someone in this thread said he sold blackwater and its now just a CIA front
Prince wasn't accused of using blackwater as security for Trump.
They were saying Prince had connections and friends in the industry to make a security detail for Trump (along with Princes new company). I don't know if it was rumor or speculation, but I had heard that too. It would also make sense to hire Devos if her primary function was communications between Erik and Trump and giving her a job as secretary of education.
That sounds plausible.
He sold blackwater back in 2010. Last I heard he started some private intelligence firm and doing spook shit.
He basically had to stay in the middle east
Frontier Services Group
Clowns gonna clown and Nazi's gotta stick together.
For the anon that thinks Blackwater is ok and this story might be a smear campaign, I worked closely with th Clowns and Blackwater overseas on more than one occasion. They were getting away with murder, rape, pillaging, etc throughout our time in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was a poorly kept secret going back to the beginning of OIF/OEF.
Maybe, some of their contractors were good people, but most of them were hand picked by Prince himself because they share the same "loose morality" as rapists, murderers, etc. Most PMC contracted shooters do. It's what makes them effective at destabilizing nations, which is why they were sent to the ME and Africa.
Just because you weren't involved with them much and didn't see it, doesn't mean much. I know guys who were booted from the military for various offenses when we were overseas, sent home, only to return a very short time later as a well paid Backwater, Raytheon, Dyncorp, or Wackenhut asshat. Some were back within a month, others took a little longer, depending on the "training" they needed. Some of those offenses should've led to massive amounts of bring time, but didn't. Which tells me those corp's had a hand in making sure those guys weren't sent "up river" ahead of time. At the time, we didn't know why shitbirds weren't being punished properly for their crimes, amd why they were being hired by the PMC's, but now we know why.
Not trying to call you out, anon, but I saw a lot of shit overseas, in plenty of "third world shit holes" that keeps me awake at night. And te PMC's were caught up in the middle of it all...from the beginning.
Yeah, I don't know what your experiences were, but since I was loaned to the State Dept and was interacting every day with the BW guys and was friends with many. If this was a poorly kept secret, I guarantee I would have heard about it. I travelled to most of the cities in Iraq and met with the majority of BW folks. If there were incidents like this, a lot of the good people I met within the company would have reported it. If BW had folks that worked directly for the CIA, I never saw them anywhere within country and never heard anything about it. Considering I was embedded with the IRM with the State Dept, if these things were happening, I would have heard about it. The State Dept is gossip central and we knew about everything going on in country. I also had access to comms in the entire country and so did my group. None of us heard about any of this. If they were everything you said they were, it would be hard to hide this and would definitely not have sat well with the ex-military folks within Blackwater. Contrary to popular opinion, (by the media) ex-military folks keep the same morality even after they get out. Nearly all are Patriots, just not blind to the bad shit our government does. Of anything we are more aware and less likely to follow the bullshit narratives.
I have some close friends that served in Afghanistan. I'll ask the what their experiences were with the PMC's there. Where specifically were you in both countries and who were you there with?
Blackwater is Wackenhut in a wig and khakis.
Black water, rock, stone, cube, star, sun
All the same
I see a red door and I want it painted black No colours anymore, I want them to turn black
I look inside myself and see my heart is black I see my red door, I must have it painted black
I wanna see the sun blotted out from the sky I wanna see it painted, painted, painted, painted black
Shit, that's a study in itself.
Several rabbit holes to fall in, that's for sure!
It's more likely that Academi is in there to help stand up a non-Nazi fighting force. Prince is not the bad guy he gets made out to be.
Interesting. Watch the black[water]?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JOpPNra4bw
Prince has been employed by the criminals for along time. Iwould not blindly trust him.
Anyone remember the show Jericho?
Tjatbwas whatntjeybhad in store for us if Hillary got elected. There were private contractors who came to "help" and took over.