Ask them, when you say "no evidence", do you mean that you have personally reviewed all of the evidence, and decided that none of it was credible?
or do you mean that you have literally never seen any of the evidence, and therefore you are absolutely ignorant about all of the evidence?
Because I’m pretty sure the video of an election worker pulling a box full of ballots out from under a table cloth, has never been “debunked”.
In situations like that they always say "One or two bad election workers doesn't mean Biden didn't win."
I've had the best luck with this by explaining the statistical discrepancies. To believe Biden won, you have to believe that the most incompetent-acting president in recent memory, and the textbook definition of the ineffective geriatric white male politician who spent the eighties beating up on blacks from his office, had more popularity with black voters than Obama, but only in swing states, and only in counties that reported 50% more votes than their actual populations.
So far this has only worked on Europeans. It doesn't work on Americans who watch TV.
I just go after their messiah. "I was just really surprised how much more popular Biden was with Blacks and liberals than Obama. Especially in the swing states."
That is the way I go too. I was sure that he was sunk with the “you ain’t black “ quote.
Usual response that I get is that the votes were “against trump and not really for Biden” Which still makes trump the most popular president of all time :$
What county had 50% more votes than voters?Just name one.
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zgSKBB6j/why-doesnt-this-make-sense-to-me/
https://www.eac.gov/research-and-data/studies-and-reports
Here is an entire state for you.
7.1 million registered voters, only 4 million total eligible.
https://gettr.com/post/pu0p3q94f3
Where is the stat stat shows 7.1 million? https://elections.wi.gov/publications/statistics/registration
I am not sure. The link I shared showed the presentation Mde in front of Janel Brantjen, the chair of the election committee in Wisconsin.
From watching a previous Dr. Frank breakdown, he showed how numbers are inflated the weeks before an election, the vote occurs, and then the rolls are deflated so that nothing appears out of normal with the register.
great response
And then...WHO are the debunked anyway?
I just walk away. By now, if you don't feel, in your heart, that there is oodles of democrat fuckery going on, you are a rabid liberal, and think that cheating is okay. There is no hope for you. I smile, and walk away for good.....
Yep. If you aren’t on board at this point you are the enemy.
Those people are lost forever. The sooner we realize this the sooner we get down to business.
Many more will awaken before it's all over. I see it all around me in minor ways that will become major ways as this unfolds. A very liberal person I know was just telling me he thinks the media might be pushing an agenda because they never talk about white people who get shot by the police. Shocking!
This person doesn't pay much attention to politics. He just swallows the leftist agenda and filters out anything that opposes it as right-wing propaganda. This is a crack in the dam that will lead him to question other things and to consider sources he's been knee-jerk rejecting, until there are enough cracks that the dam finally breaks.
But when we are online, we gotta put up a fight
I'd ask them, so what about the person convicted in AZ of election fraud, or the one in AZ who plead guilty of election fraud and conspiracy, or in TX the dozen or so who were convicted of ballot harvesting and stuffing and selling votes, or the guy in Michigan, or the guy just convicted in PA of voter fraud.....etc.
I mention that the Secretary of State of Pennsylvania issued the "law" for mail-in voting in PA and only the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives can create laws/legislation. Never had one person come back and prove me wrong. It's a solid one.
Some of these steadfast communists will never be woken up--they don't believe their own eyes or any tape that may have been put out by patriots. Their hatred and demise of this country has them blinded to everything else. I believe the rebuttal is great and perfect, but...
My group-think coworkers said those suitcases in Atlanta were regular totes for the ballots and that's how they normally store the mail in ballots.
They completely dismiss that it was done after the building was evacuated and that batches of ballots were scanned several times.
The other side, the commies, believe they have an answer for every act of crime they commit, they are ideologs and can't/won't be convinced of anything else. They, for all attempts, are "lost" and probably won't see any light from any criminal act (not even if the perpetrators are charged, convicted, and sentenced.
Hahaha, yes. This is how to do it. You will get a lot of,"Oh yeah. I can do research too" and they will not speak to you again.
Its like the trash takes itself to the curb.
Most of us here have had to go through that. It's unpleasant, but you feel wiser on the other side, even knowing there's still a lot we don't know.
I always like to add, "What type of evidence would you need to see in order to even consider the possibility? I can provide stats, whistleblowers, audio testimony, video testimony, video of numbers changes on CNN tickers, videos of press conferences of votes being switched, cover up testimony of supoena'd data having been deleted and hidden, video of ballots being delivered, Dominion employee testimony, video of boxes being stuffed, video hidden suitcases full of ballots being brought out after people were told to leave, GPS data, indictments of fraud....people actually pleading guilty to fraud....?
Just call them a liar. Easy!
This isn't my info (I nabbed it from TDW), but it's good nonetheless:
Michigan State Senate Hearing on 2020 Election Crimes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7461&v=X0-vyw9qbdw&feature=emb_logo
(6:13:00 for Dr Linda Tarver's testimony)
Georgia State Senate Hearing on 2020 Election Crimes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRCXUNOwOjw
(33:20 for video of concealed boxes being presented)
Arizona State Legislature Hearing on 2020 Election Crimes: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KXyOtzADUCU
-Vote counting was halted the night of the election in many swing states with no reason given or fake reasons supplied (water main, just toilet overflow) -Hundreds of eyewitnesses gave testimony at multiple states' legislative sessions detailing the election crimes -Video evidence showing concealed cases of ballots being pulled out and scanned repeatedly in Georgia after the poll watchers were removed due to the "water main leak". -Voters identified as indefinitely confined to illegally receive absentee ballots even though they are young and healthy -Ballots for voters under the age of 18 were counted -Voters submitted multiple ballots in the same state or across multiple states -Voters submitted ballots in states they do not live in -Poll watchers illegally removed from polling places for questioning fraudulent vote counting -Absentee ballots counted even though voters never requested or filled them out -Vote counting machines had overridden vote selection percentages above 60% in some counties, and FAR above normal ranges in many others (Antrim county machine audit) -Vote counting machines had the overridden vote selection logs wiped for 2020, but previous years' log data was still there (Antrim county machine audit) -ANTRIM COUNTY VOTING MACHINE AUDITED -2000 Mules: Thousands of individuals repeatedly dropped off multiple ballots into drop boxes violating the law. The total number of these ballots alone is enough to shift the result of the election.
The 2020 Election Was A Complete Fraud
Actually, that story was “debunked” in a way that satisfied most of the Normies. Sadly. Democrats do a much better job of propaganda than we give them credit for.
So if you whip that one out they can just point at the articles that “debunked” that event.
So… yeah.
This is why I want so desperately to believe that patriots are actually in control, because I do believe the military is the only way but I don’t think “enough” people will be convinced that it will go smoothly. There’s no convincing many of them. That’s why, when the time comes, those patriots who are in control are going to need to do what they have to do no matter how many people hate it. If they are waiting for a certain percentage of people to accept it, it’s never going to happen.
They mean people like bill barr and muh 60 court cases said that aka 'im not qualified to have an opinion and its 100% worthless but im making it known anyways'
Just curious, but have any of you successfully redpilled anyone about the stolen election?
nope, because everyone i know, already knows the election was stolen. they discuss it openly, with zero fear.
https://www.eac.gov/research-and-data/studies-and-reports
Most of them honestly don't give a fuck. They don't want to hear it about or see the evidence. And if you did somehow manage to convince them, they'd say it was justified. At least that's been my experience. Wouldn't you cheat at an election to stop "literal" Hitler?
To be fair, some of my friends that lean liberal (lean, not flaming) say they don't care because every election that we ever had was fraudulent. "Presidents are selected not elected" type of thing. They believe the richest select them. But, my circle is different than most, I guess.
Yes, video of a worker pulling out votes was 'debunked' on the tv show 60 Minutes.
After the election I saw many videos on here of elections shenanigan. 60 Minutes managed to pull up some random video that I never saw before and claimed it was an example used in this community of extinction fraud.
Really clued me in to their tactics. On the debunking process.
More votes than voters too.
But great response! Wish we could ask the pundits live on their news channel this!
Neither has the suspicious water leak that was used to clear the arena. And, btw, why were people voting in a pro sports Arena anyway?
The box under the table has been debunked. They were empty ballot bins. The only evidence needed is that over 60 lawsuits were lost that sought to overturn the election. Many in courts with judges appointed by republicans. Make up whatever you want that fits your narrative of what you wish happened, but that doesn't make it true.
The bins were empty… after they took the ballots out of them at 3am
As OP said, where's your evidence for that?
the video of them pulling ballots out of bins
Tbh I was not impressed with that piece of evidence as it seemed to be missing context and was far too simple
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/facebook-posts/no-georgia-election-workers-didnt-kick-out-observe/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/video-doesnt-show-suitcases-of-illegal-ballots-in-georgia/
The 2000 mules method seems far more interesting and likely than the “box under the table”. I think that there is still more to that story that has yet to come out. Also likely more than one type of attack. We are only fooling ourselves if we believe that the democrats are stupid and unorganized.
I find that sometimes here we will go along with anything that supports our side without questioning it and this is one of those times. This particular claim is pretty thin on details unless I am missing something. I would be happy to be proven wrong here.
Rudy did a pretty poor job on getting the message out and I would dare say that he did more harm than good considering the quality of his press conferences. That was just hard to watch
Ok, since I had a different opinion, begin the downvotes
I'm sorry, but Rudy ruined any chance we had of getting people to believe fraud. Now, the courts may be a whole different scenario (behind the scenes) but Rudy only made Trump look bad with his shenanigans. That black goo dripping down his face and the whole four seasons landscaping thing made him hard to take serious.
Fact is 2000 mules was a joke with maps of Moscow being touted as maps of GA. Why Dinesh would do that is ridiculous. He made that movie a farce. It seems that TTV were also party to that.
The problem with the "map of Moscow" issue is that it isn't the point of the movie -- it isn't relevant that it's apparently an Adobe stock image of a vector map, which seems to match up with a mirrored image of Moscow. I haven't looked to deeply into this aspect, but it shouldn't matter anyway.
Why? Because the point of 2000 mules is the cellphone pings. Just because a stock image was used as a prop to make the point, doesn't make the point itself invalid. I'm not hearing anything or anyone refute the fact that the same cellphone pings occurred in direct relationship to ballot drop boxes and political offices.
The same twitter thread that argues they didn't see the mules drop off more than one or two ballots at a time is also silly -- you can see several (definitely more that one or two) being dropped off by these mules. Even if it was only one or two, their cell phone pings continued in a fashion that is suspect. That's fraud, and to argue contrary to that due to an Adobe stock image is willful ignorance. The likelihood is that this has been happening for years.
Dont you see that the whole movie is now called into question? no serious news organisation is gonna feature a film that did that. Why on earth didn't he just use a stock photo of GA? it makes no sense. And as for the cellphone pings. If 2000 people were dropping at multiple boxes they must have footage of at least one of them doing that. Unless they show that footage its meaningless.
The whole movie is, based on its very premise, one big question mark. It's a big deal. But the stock photo isn't the hill to die on.
True the Vote has hours of video of these mules, as well as terabytes of cellphone pings. They included what they had and what they thought most damning for the movie. That's a movie for you! Also, that's Dinesh for you! Regardless, they themselves admit freely that they're frustrated with the sheer number of ballot drop-box locations that "lost" footage or never used the cameras to begin with. This is a serious problem, don't you think?
We have the cellphone pings -- this is very good evidence and almost as good as video evidence, isn't it? You got the same cellphone pinging suspiciously close (within meters) of ballot-drop boxes and political offices over and over and over again. Why does this evidence not interest you? Why do you need video evidence or "it's meaningless"?
I do not care what news organizations feature and neither should you. The MSM hasn't said anything good or interesting for years now, and showing 2000 Mules isn't going to renew my interest in them. A "serious" news organization doesn't exist anymore, imho.
This movie is garbage. It is literally laughing at you. It made Dinesh millions of $ and he thinks so little of you that he showed you maps of moscow and made you believe it was America. Ask yourself what sort of person would do that and why. The movie is pure junk and a scam. The fact he lied about Moscow makes nothing he says worth listening to. Imagine if CNN did something like that. This site would be laughing like fuck and making meme after meme.
Source?
Here is a still from 2000 Mules. I have put a map of Moscow next to it. In the movies they claim this map is GA and shows the locations of ballot harvesters. EDIT i cant figure out how to upload my pics so i will link you to this tweet that shows the moscow map next to the GA map used in the movie. https://twitter.com/PokerPolitics/status/1527320927859777539/photo/1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/even-geolocation-maps-2000-mules-are-misleading/
Say what?
In the movie dinesh shows some maps that he says show the points where the balot harvesters phones pinged. This map is moscow. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/even-geolocation-maps-2000-mules-are-misleading/
https://twitter.com/PokerPolitics/status/1527320959920721920
Maps from Moscow?? This from the Post?? Really?? Why not maps from Timbuktu or Beijing or London … Oh I get it Trump Haters gotta have Russia involved, give me a fucking break.
This really is true. But, it was a simple mistake. Both had the same file name. Really just a simple mistake.
Wouldn’t that make the cellphone pings useless? We really need the video evidence of the mules dropping in multiple boxes. Disappointing that Dinesh did not include that
The map lines up perfectly with Moscow. Dinesh did that. Maybe you should ask him why. https://twitter.com/PokerPolitics/status/1527320959920721920