Or. Like my credit card company. They just switched from Visa to Mastercard. Not sure how that stuff works but I wouldn’t be surprised to know this is the reason.
Exactly what I was thinking. But Visa there are lots of different Visa cards. From Capitol One to your local credit union. Are they all considered the same company?
Lots of banks/CU's use VISA for processing payments but they are not part of VISA as a company. This is why you have the logo on your ATM card. Capital One is is the same. They may use VISA or MasterCard for processing but are their own company.
Visa has banking and processes payments, like Amazon had its store but processes for many other businesses. If they have taken it upon themselves to punish legal activity, such as unilaterally choosing all accounts if seems is Ani dealers, then it is consciously monitoring the businesses on its services, and is responsible for whatever it allows. On top of that, it was advised of its connections to illegal activity of the worst kind, which it even acknowledged oncr by cutting off the criminal enterprise, before re-engaging with them, KNOWINGLY. That last part alone should be enough to hold them.
Now THAT … is spot on. What pisses me off is Visa will get a fine from the government in 6 years after all the bullshit appeals are processed and no one will go to prison. That is beyond repugnant. Fuk prison. I want some VISA enablers to ride the lightning.
Moot point, unless you're trying to excuse them from aiding and abetting child abuse and sex trafficking by saying the funds are fake. Still doesn't make the crimes fake.
Not excusing anyone from anything. Just pointing out how its all fake money but as long as people believe it has real value they can use it to get away with crimes. If people came to the mass realization that literally ALL of the money we use for everyday things is conjured out of thin air, and the people in charge have an unlimited supply while everyone else has to work for scraps, AND the people in charge use their unlimited funds for sick depraved shit, once people understand that, the system will crumble overnight.
"Conjured out of thin air" isn't exactly the problem. The problem is the regulation of it is out of the people's hands and controlled exclusively by the elite. The people agreed to use dollars but they never agreed to keep printing more after they had what they needed. The politicians did because they are greedy. The money masters promised the politicians money that they didn't earn and that's all there is to it.
Anything can be used for currency. It's a representation of effort. It doesn't have to be gold etc. but it does have to be difficult or impossible to counterfeit so that the creation of it is limited to what is authorized by the people who agree there needs to be more in order to facilitate the trade of effort between them. This is what our government was and is supposed to be now but hasn't been for a long time.
Again I encourage everyone to watch The Money Masters by Bill Still.
Sounds nice but they're not going to realize things all at once, so there will be waves of realization and waves of reactions. It will seem like a short period time in the future, perhaps, but our experience will feel long and drawn out, as it will likely take years of not decades to purge and rebuild.
Visa doesn't ultimately own the debt but they do keep the money for a time while waiting for payments to settle, which they earn interest on, if I'm not mistaken.
Still irrelevant; if a crook cons another crook with monopoly money while helping with child abuse and sex trafficking of minors, they're both still complicit.
I think you missed the context … the premise was all debts would be absolved Because of ‘muh Visa’. Not irrelevant in the context of debt absolution. Visa having executed the transactions, MAY be culpable for processing those illicit transactions, but that culpability would not extend to the debt holder.
EDIT: add: Unless the banks were also complicit i.e. they were well aware of the Visa fukery. I cant imagine in a million years someone at the banks did not know.
That part is going to come back and bite them wonderfully. Like media companies who decide to censor, they openly took responsibility for whatever is on their platforms. They unilaterally decided to castigate legal entities exercising their legal rights, while knowingly enabling, aiding, abetting, and profiting from heinous illegal activities that violated human rights. The Trump EO, I believe, is fully in play. I hope they're losing all bowel control.
Don't you love knowing that the same institution driving debt and crushing your credit score (and by extension financial and mental well being) for missing a payment are the same people making money off CP.
I thought they fixed this as soon as they were caught. How am I now reading that Visa went straight back to its vomit? And how is MindGeek still operating??
MindGeek owns and runs Pornhub and a few other "premium" adult sites. I was under the impression when they were first caught with CP on their servers that they would eradicate it all and move on. Turns out they did not.
Thinking about those victims makes me see red. Exploiting anyone against their will is evil. Using the internet to distribute it as entertainment is...hellish.
Aren't these some of the same companies/banks that refuse to handle business for gun retailers and ammunition sellers? They violate the second amendment and get away with thier virtue signalling. Perhaps this rulinig could be cited as precedent for legal filings by the companies denied service through thier systems. Not a lawyer but thinking ahead.
If Visa did indeed enable PornHub to monetize and profit from child porn, they should be held accountable to fullest extent of the law.
However, I can see Visa (and other credit card companies) latching onto this situation as an excuse to use political bias and ESG strictures to further erode our freedoms and undermine Patriots.
Think gun control (eg no weapons/bullet purchases). Think medical expenditures (eg Ivermectin purchases not allowed). Think food (eg no beef purchases because muh climate change). Etc.
And when push back happens - as it should - cc companies will point to this case as their justification.
It's not right. But I can absolutely see them not letting this go to waste when they can use it to further the agenda.
Whilst I hope PH gets what it deserves. I have to say I never once came across CP on that site during all the times I used to frequent it. And I frequented a lot.
This could be huge. All visa debts could potentially be found null and void
Or. Like my credit card company. They just switched from Visa to Mastercard. Not sure how that stuff works but I wouldn’t be surprised to know this is the reason.
Exactly what I was thinking. But Visa there are lots of different Visa cards. From Capitol One to your local credit union. Are they all considered the same company?
Lots of banks/CU's use VISA for processing payments but they are not part of VISA as a company. This is why you have the logo on your ATM card. Capital One is is the same. They may use VISA or MasterCard for processing but are their own company.
^^^ THIS ^^^
Visa has banking and processes payments, like Amazon had its store but processes for many other businesses. If they have taken it upon themselves to punish legal activity, such as unilaterally choosing all accounts if seems is Ani dealers, then it is consciously monitoring the businesses on its services, and is responsible for whatever it allows. On top of that, it was advised of its connections to illegal activity of the worst kind, which it even acknowledged oncr by cutting off the criminal enterprise, before re-engaging with them, KNOWINGLY. That last part alone should be enough to hold them.
Now THAT … is spot on. What pisses me off is Visa will get a fine from the government in 6 years after all the bullshit appeals are processed and no one will go to prison. That is beyond repugnant. Fuk prison. I want some VISA enablers to ride the lightning.
Its all fake money and fake debt. Visa operates the payment network that allows the other companies to transmit the fake money between each other.
Look up Fractional Reserve Banking. It is ALL funny money....
Better yet, Read, "The Creature from Jekyll Island" - G. Edward Griffin.
Will explain EVERYTHING - and where/how the Federal Reserve came about.
Or watch The Money Masters by Bill Still.
https://odysee.com/@KnowledgeBase:e/Bill-Still-The-Money-Masters-Full-Documentary-1996:7
Moot point, unless you're trying to excuse them from aiding and abetting child abuse and sex trafficking by saying the funds are fake. Still doesn't make the crimes fake.
Not excusing anyone from anything. Just pointing out how its all fake money but as long as people believe it has real value they can use it to get away with crimes. If people came to the mass realization that literally ALL of the money we use for everyday things is conjured out of thin air, and the people in charge have an unlimited supply while everyone else has to work for scraps, AND the people in charge use their unlimited funds for sick depraved shit, once people understand that, the system will crumble overnight.
"Conjured out of thin air" isn't exactly the problem. The problem is the regulation of it is out of the people's hands and controlled exclusively by the elite. The people agreed to use dollars but they never agreed to keep printing more after they had what they needed. The politicians did because they are greedy. The money masters promised the politicians money that they didn't earn and that's all there is to it.
Anything can be used for currency. It's a representation of effort. It doesn't have to be gold etc. but it does have to be difficult or impossible to counterfeit so that the creation of it is limited to what is authorized by the people who agree there needs to be more in order to facilitate the trade of effort between them. This is what our government was and is supposed to be now but hasn't been for a long time.
Again I encourage everyone to watch The Money Masters by Bill Still.
https://odysee.com/@KnowledgeBase:e/Bill-Still-The-Money-Masters-Full-Documentary-1996:7
Sounds nice but they're not going to realize things all at once, so there will be waves of realization and waves of reactions. It will seem like a short period time in the future, perhaps, but our experience will feel long and drawn out, as it will likely take years of not decades to purge and rebuild.
True, but there will come an inflection point where mass awakening will start happening exponentially.
It may already be happening.
Amazing.... considering the only CC debt I have is with Mastercard -_-
Visa doesn't ultimately own the debt but they do keep the money for a time while waiting for payments to settle, which they earn interest on, if I'm not mistaken.
Visa doesn't actually own the debt. They just process the payments for the ‘banks’ that actually own the debt.
Still irrelevant; if a crook cons another crook with monopoly money while helping with child abuse and sex trafficking of minors, they're both still complicit.
I think you missed the context … the premise was all debts would be absolved Because of ‘muh Visa’. Not irrelevant in the context of debt absolution. Visa having executed the transactions, MAY be culpable for processing those illicit transactions, but that culpability would not extend to the debt holder.
EDIT: add: Unless the banks were also complicit i.e. they were well aware of the Visa fukery. I cant imagine in a million years someone at the banks did not know.
NoThInG iS hApPeNiNg
That part is going to come back and bite them wonderfully. Like media companies who decide to censor, they openly took responsibility for whatever is on their platforms. They unilaterally decided to castigate legal entities exercising their legal rights, while knowingly enabling, aiding, abetting, and profiting from heinous illegal activities that violated human rights. The Trump EO, I believe, is fully in play. I hope they're losing all bowel control.
What the hell did I miss. DID THIS ACTUALLY HAPPEN? If it did Im certain the NRA crushed somebodies nuts over that.
It would appear I am this threads self nominated douchebag … but, I JUST bought a Glock x17 at a gun store and used my Visa card. Yesterday. Ammo too.
Don't you love knowing that the same institution driving debt and crushing your credit score (and by extension financial and mental well being) for missing a payment are the same people making money off CP.
Fuck these people.
I thought they fixed this as soon as they were caught. How am I now reading that Visa went straight back to its vomit? And how is MindGeek still operating??
God have mercy on us...
Fill us in on MindGeek? This is new.
MindGeek owns and runs Pornhub and a few other "premium" adult sites. I was under the impression when they were first caught with CP on their servers that they would eradicate it all and move on. Turns out they did not.
Thinking about those victims makes me see red. Exploiting anyone against their will is evil. Using the internet to distribute it as entertainment is...hellish.
They made a public action until the noise blew over.
Makes me sick to my stomach. I hope there is a hell and that these bastards are bound for the worse parts.
Aren't these some of the same companies/banks that refuse to handle business for gun retailers and ammunition sellers? They violate the second amendment and get away with thier virtue signalling. Perhaps this rulinig could be cited as precedent for legal filings by the companies denied service through thier systems. Not a lawyer but thinking ahead.
If visa can cancel conservative corporations, then they can be sued for any companies they deal with.
YUGE!!!
EO link anyone?
If Visa did indeed enable PornHub to monetize and profit from child porn, they should be held accountable to fullest extent of the law.
However, I can see Visa (and other credit card companies) latching onto this situation as an excuse to use political bias and ESG strictures to further erode our freedoms and undermine Patriots.
Think gun control (eg no weapons/bullet purchases). Think medical expenditures (eg Ivermectin purchases not allowed). Think food (eg no beef purchases because muh climate change). Etc.
And when push back happens - as it should - cc companies will point to this case as their justification.
It's not right. But I can absolutely see them not letting this go to waste when they can use it to further the agenda.
Visa will weasel their way out of this with a "fine". Nothing long term will ever happen to them.
Whilst I hope PH gets what it deserves. I have to say I never once came across CP on that site during all the times I used to frequent it. And I frequented a lot.
And sometimes twice on a Tuesday.