Wondering why there have been so many slide posts? New Pfizer docs dropped
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For those who don’t know exactly what “forum slide” is:
'FORUM SLIDING'
If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.
Thanks for exsplaining.
Thank you for teaching me something new today. Also thank you to OP for posting this important information.
Thank you for this. We all appreciate these explanations.
How to mitigate or stop it?
causally hijacking top comment to say: Sponsor List.
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/125742_S1_M5_5351_bnt162-01-interim3-sponsor-personnel-list.pdf
Follow the money
Yeah, the shills seem to have slid this quite well; thanks for posting!
BUMP
My pleasure.
Thanks for posting that Pfizer information. Very much appreciated.
:) ;) :)
3600 pages of adverse effect narratives. It lists the patients medical history and a description of the adverse event/why they think it happened.
https://pdata0916.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pdocs/070122/125742_S1_M5_5351_c4591001-fa-interim-narrative-sensitive.pdf
I'm only on page 37 and I am livid.
Do it in bits, look after yourself. But maybe this will get creative
This is a better look at each subject who had an adverse effect, several pages for each so not 3500 victims. First one had a medical history that would make it easy to gloss over the fatal heart attack 2 mos. after 2nd dose--especially with no autopsy. I'm wondering already if there was some cherry picking of cases that could be swept under the rug the same way.
also, given placebo
What I'm saying. It looks like a pretty good medical record, but they lost a lot of data already, so who knows how good it really is.
The placebo pts are shocking me. Did these patients CONSENT to be in the placebo group? Did they CONSENT to being part of an EXPERIMENT? I'm thinking this is a pretty big find!
In the best study, neither the experimenters nor the participants would know who was in the control/placebo group and who was in the treatment/experimental group until it was all over. That's called a blind study. At least the participants shouldn't know, to keep them more objective about what they are experiencing. Pfizer and Moderna both apparently decided to destroy all credibility part way through the trial data collection by telling the placebo group they weren't getting the real stuff, and asked them if they wanted the vaccine instead of a placebo. About 90% did! So in the end there was hardly any control group. The only reason for them to do this imo was because there were so many adverse effects they wanted to cover it up, or it was obvious that the vaccinated group was getting sick at least as often as the control group, or that the vaccinees were getting sicker--in retrospect, probably all three. Their pious excuse was that it was so important to protect everyone, they were morally obligated to vaccinate everyone as soon as possible.
So scientific ethics gets thrown out, in favour of equity ethics?
I think it was CYA ethics.
Oh, yes! Wow! Is that in one of the drop documents?
Don't know. But to actually answer your question, in a trial study there is supposed to be informed consent and advice that you might be getting a placebo. That part would be kosher--there should be such forms.
That's called a double blind study actually, when neither those running it or those participating in the experiment know who has received what. It's the gold standard for scientific experiments.
You could even triple blind it by sending all the data to some third party who knew nothing about it, if you could reduce it to numbers.
It was like the Russian roulette the gay community did years ago, they were getting AIDS. This time getting a death jab for sure.
And have you seen the sites that talk about the Hep-B injection that all the gays, as a vanguard group, were getting before that? I had a stand-up row with a youngish nurse who wanted to make sure my new-born child had all his shots. there had been some media about the Hep-B at the time. As a parent I was being irresponsible not injecting Hep-B in a two-day old breast-feeding baby, having its first bath. Everyone was doing it now, allegedly.
Some say that AIDS was the vaccine injury ... OF course the drug they were given when diagnosed was the real killer...
What?
Does anybody know that if people were given the same 'batch number' shot for the second and boosters? Did people have to show their original shot card with the lot ID so administrators could match? If it was hit or miss whether or not they got the same 'level' of ingredients in each jab, it seems like the results would be too compromised to be worth analyzing.
This is a good question and it might be answerable in this trial group data--if these sloppy researchers kept the records. In the general public, after release, it seems like it would be hard because of all the sites that popped up.
The way studies work, you don't know if you're in the placebo group and neither does the person dosing you. It's called a double blind study, and this practice is supposed to eliminate any bias, unconscious or conscience, that could come about from knowing.
And academics have to go in front of equity boards if they even want to ask a few questions from people.
Of course when you are testing DRUGS, then it's fine. Just give it to 95% of the population, that way you can eliminate the conspiracy nut-jobs antivaxxers quickly, when thing get hot.
Carry aspirins, they are red-pill enablers. When the time comes, carry a Shillelagh to go shopping.
Yes. So did these patients know they were in the study? I guess they did, if they had investigators. I would like to know more about this study. Thanks for reminding me.
Everyone was withdrawn from the study for various reasons. Ironic they didn’t feel any serious side effects were due to the vaccine, only dizziness, pain at injection, etc. Don’t have time now but was starting to notice a pattern. Need to compare time frame, lot number, reaction
Everyone was withdrawn, or everyone withdrew? There is a difference. The first case indicates that maybe someone was trying to stop this thing running down the hill into the fiery pits of doom. The second was a bottom-up FU reaction from the 'clients'.
I would say both? Pregnancy, withdrawn. Death, withdrawn. Attempted suicide, withdrawn. There’s everything from muscle spasms to vomiting to facial paralysis to tumors found 21 (don’t quote me) after vax. To me, they attributed anything serious to pre-existing condition and only said minimal things like dizziness or injection site swelling could be attributed. I haven’t gone through the entire document but it looks like all these patients were withdrawn from the study? Also wonder about the “placebo” bc some of the adverse reactions are things we’ve read about on VAERS with people who had no preexisting condition.
Who knows? Are there any descriptions for the saline solution? There may be added surfactants, or some other kind of salt that is not sodium chloride, to 'make the solution more efficient', or perhaps a preservative, because, you know salt is not a preservative, enough. (sarcastic). Maybe something was added to the water to keep it from putrefying in the vats, while it was waiting for the alleged salt to be added.
Maybe someone didn't clean the vats properly before plant made a new batch of saline shots.
Or they altered the data?
Anything ispossible, this is why we are digging. To find stuff, and to notice if we don't find something.
Saline is a common placebo. It's literally just 0.9% NaCl for injection (meaning that it's sterile). There is nothing added.
Yes, the question raised was: is it really?
I like how every conclusion ends with: In the opinion of the investigator, there was no reasonable possibility that _____ was related to the study intervention, concomitant medications, or clinical trial procedures, but rather it was ____. Pfizer concurred with the investigator’s causality assessment.
LOL, how much are they paying the investigator?
This is normal. In any study on human subjects, any adverse effect (AE) must be investigated by a third party physician and a determination made as to whether the AE happened due to the patient's baseline health or due to the study drug. If the patient was given placebo, they would always come to the conclusion that the AE was unrelated to the study drug, but this investigation is carried out for patients in the experimental group. The determination is common. For example, if you're giving patients a topic antifungal for foot fungus or something and the patient develops a stroke, it's likely unrelated simply due to how the antifungals work and the fact the medication was giving topically and not systemically.
That said, Pfizer (and most others) made a key assumption early on: that the spike protein itself was not harmful. That assumption may not be true, based on newer understanding about the physiology of the system upon which it works. The spike protein binding to the ACE2 receptor in endothelial (the inside layer of arteries) tissue has a pro-inflammatory and pro-thrombotic effect, which is why we see microclotting with so many COVID patients. Giving the protein artificially as part of a vaccine would cause the same state if it, too, bound the ACE2 receptor. I'm not certain that this was appreciated when the data was being evaluated - so investigators would've missed the connection.
As for the corruption insinuation, I personally know professors and colleagues who have served as peer reviewers for things like this. They take the role seriously and impartiality, even brutal honesty, is very much part of the ethic when doing this type of work. They are, after all, the final check on "new science." If they make mistakes, journals won't hire them as future peer reviewers either. I do believe some people could be corrupt, but I'd have to see proof before I start believing this was intentional rather than an omission due to simple lack of knowledge from the scientific community as a whole.
2500 more pages of adverse effect data, seems to be mostly external or immediate effects as theyre injected
https://pdata0916.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pdocs/060122/125742_S1_M5_5351_c4591001-fa-interim-adverse-events.pdf
Well yes, in a cross-sectional study, the heart-attacks in the first 24 hrs are relevant.
We are, as a society, now registering the longitudinal data. which is better scientifically, but scandalously unethical.
Bump!
yippee (hops a little)
I found the statistical analysis plan for placebo tests. Digging through it now but i dont have much time so ill link it here too.
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/125742_S1_M5_5351_c4591001-interim-mth6-sap.pdf
OOOh some handshake was deleted for your post. That might be worth digging some more for sure.
Well that plan is what all the rest of the docs are based off of. So id say if we comb through the plan we can see how they might have skirted the line. And it would put into perspective the rest of the documents related to the placebo study
What's a slide post? Does that mean an important post that's buried? That sounds like something the trolls would do
I think it's when they try to get your attention somewhere else? And yes, definitely trolls.
prolly. Not necessarily troll though, some are very serious about making things go away. They will make three, or four or more accounts just for that purpose. Also there are English speakers all over the world that will do anything for 50c. You know, make money on the hinterzones! We pay 50C per post. Accent not required, if can read and write Hinglish.
Interesting. Especially a conversation regarding Game Stop and the mother of all short squeezes.
Someone in a third world shithole would love making money sitting in front of a computer. I can't blame them.
Hence the hot August posts. Imma getting hot scrolling this forum.
It is hotter than hell out there weather wise as well.
Over on my end of the globe it is cool but not cold, and wet, for winter, almost as if Spring will be early. When the Northern Hemishpere is getting those polar vortices, we will be getting cloudy, rainy summers. A few years back we had all-day frosts for a month, in July, not this year.
It's warmer this year. Our water sources are drying up in the south west.
And yet, it is flooding on the South East coasts.
You'd think they'd be willing to share.
Oh wait.
InB4 Haarp and Chemtrails.
List of labs under vaccine research and development oversight (small list)
https://pdata0916.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/pdocs/070122/125742_S1_M5_5351_c4591001-interim-mth6-interlab-standard.pdf
Hmmmm.
For real…. I havent seen a posting on new pfizer doc dump since may…
I could not open it, can anyone else?
It might be your browser. Mine opens some pdfs but not all. You might have to download it.
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Thank you
I knew about this but didn't know what it was called. Is that the same thing as people posting the same post two or more times in a row? When I scroll down, after a while, it's just duplicate after duplicate....
The duplicate after duplicate syndrome, from different posters, may be organic, because people forget to search their title, or even a few keywords in the search box, before transferring it to the new post.
However, if its always the same group of posters, and the subject is banal, then you have, potentially, some pro-sliders.
Thanks. Yeah, it will be a few posts by the same person, with the same title, only different comments and counts of comments.
The thing is, we do not have to click each of those posts....but that makes it a slider: one has to scroll heaps to get some actual news.
What's trending on Twitter is #NationalBoobDay--put this up there w/the hashtag so normies will see it.
Well boobs are always a welcome distraction. Over half the population has them, including obese men. So, one could say it is a widespread appreciation.
However, One should view such distractions as just that. DISTRACTIONS.
Interim study synopsis
https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/125742_S1_M5_5351_bnt162-01-interim3-synopsis.pdf
Thanks fren.