Via my video game shooter knowledge, I can operate and reload just about every firearm from 1905 to 2022. Yes they’re all pretty similar but most are just different enough.
I bet you didn’t know that I know I can brake down and reassemble both an AK and just about any striker fire pistol blindfolded. I can discipline my trigger and hit my targets. It’s not all rocket science.
I have no hands on experience with an ASVal
A Scar17, an AR15 or a banelli shotgun but I still know how to operate the platforms better than a third of those who actually own them. No hands on experience meaning no experience is nonsense. You know professionals dry fire don’t you? Repetition muscle memory and knowledgeability, that’s all there is too it pal.
I read the user manual for the AR15 I bought recently. It actually says you can pop out the upper/lower pivot pins and disassemble the bolt carrier for cleaning. However do not try and disassemble anything else as you will likely cause damage.
I heard too many stories of people taking guns to pieces then some little tiny spring goes ziing onto the floor of your garage somewhere. Then you buy a replacement but turns out your AR has a proprietary spring. And so on.
TL;DR
Don't screw with your guns especially blindfolded.
And you think video games prepare you for combat? Got news for you.
Keep in mind this kid lives in Alabama. If you don't know what that means, maybe look it up?
That's strange. I don't recall a single day flying over Vietnam that equates to any games. That's both North and South Vietnam, doing medevacs, CSAR, insertions and extractions. Almost invariably under fire.
My kids are not prepared for any kind of war. One is a 2 dan black belt karate, if I recall correctly. He decided he was hot shit, much better trained than his old man. Being a h2h instructor myself, he didn't last 30 seconds. And he played games much of his previous life. Neither son was able to put a bullet into a beer can without major practice. Both are or were gamers.
Tactics? There is no chance the games prepare anyone for tactics. That, unfortunately for many, has to include such military instruction as "The Art of War", which becomes meaningless when faced with a foe that doesn't follow Tsu. You can say it's like chess: there are rules, there are books and books of the various chess tactics the masters have used. What if someone comes along and breaks those standards? Equate that with the Vietcong tactics - they didn't really have many. VC just raised hell, did some raids on cities, raised hell with villages, and did little ambush things along with laying booby traps and such. When 1968 came, with Tet, and the NVA recruited the VC into the regulars, they got their skinny little asses kicked; at the end of Tet, the VC were no longer viable and were effectively abandoned, with the assaults on RVN villages etc becoming NVA operations.
It is certainly true that the operators of drones and the like are better equipped to do those things if games were played, there is NO substitute for actually being under fire and doing the things we did.
Depends on the training. No 'basic' training is really training. However, the training my group went through was thorough, very few of us made it all the way, and we were definitely prepared for Vietnam. The four of us that did complete already had some small time there, but not necessarily doing what the SOG did.
Flight school dealt with the aircraft and duties of the crew. To get our wings, we had to know that helo better than the pilots. NATOPS is not a little book. The H-3 Sikorsky isn't simple, like the Huey.
The other stuff is different. Just as thorough. In some cases, such as SERE (all three we did), unless you keep in mind where you really are, and many don't, you'll be convinced you're in a POW camp, at least during Vietnam. The current crop seems to have no idea about that, beginning in the mid 70s, when standards were lowered to increase recruitment. And mommies could call MCRD or other and complain about the treatment of their kiddies. We didn't have that luxury.
One can put this into some small perspective with respect to Q's version of the globalist 16 year plan: the effective castration of the military was included, except the globs thought their programs wouldn't quite as effective as they were. That's something you can track easily.
As to basic, even back then (in the 60s), when the average recruit was in far better physical condition, it's necessary to prep them for the physical stresses, but you're right - NO training will prep them for going under fire.
Kid got lucky. Plain and simple. And I highly doubt it was video games that taught him how to shoot properly.
I can assure you from real life experience, FPS games don't teach people anything realistic about war.
My brother and I once wiped out a whole paint ball field in about 10 min without ever taking a hit. Paintball is about as close as it gets to a real war zone for 99% of America. Tier 1 guys like my brother and I love playing against "weekend warriors" who think they're badass because we get to teach these idiots some lessons on how it's really done. To see idiots clam up on a paintball field is funny to me. And they think they're hot shit going into match because they "train" on gaming consoles, too. I don't know how many times I've heard these idiots bragging about winning on Fortnite, PUBG, or COD and how badass they are, only to get wiped off the paintball grounds by a couple of former REAL LIFE war fighters. And we're not nearly as fast or accurate as we once were.
FPS games don't teach people shit, except how idiotic and braggadocious Normies can be. There's a reason why Veterans are 3%'ers.
I can confirm this stuff works too. I'm old by gamer standards given I have some grey hair, but I have been playing since Doom 3d.
First time I bought a gun about 5 years back, I was shooting 6 inch groups at 25 yards with a 9mm back to back. Not impressive, but I would like to think not bad for a total noob with real guns. Enough I had to convince the range instructor it really was my first time shooting.
And more critically, fps games teach people how not to get shot, and how to work angles. They teach the common ways most people will try to rush and flank, and how people will path through obstacles.
Sure games are nothing like real life, but I have to think if they are fit and not ham planets, gamers are gonna be better than average conscripts who never touched a game.
I really hope you don't all think any mainstream shooter is at all analogous to combat and weapons training. The only skills you could possibly learn (besides recognition of different types of firearms, and even that's suspect if you're playing something like Fortnite [or any other "free" shooter that can't afford to license real guns] instead of something made with help from the American military) are very basic tactics and awareness, which you could learn just as well from Splatoon or an MMO.
The vast majority of kids who play shooter games don't actually have guns in their house. This one did, and I think that's the much more important distinction to be made here.
Bet he t-bagged him, too!
Would love to see the death cam...
Came here to find this comment :)
TFW you realize Fortnite was good for something after all.
Yup. By evolving teabagging to dancing on their bodies and calling them bitches.
Well done, kid.
So is screen name "Ishotz4real" or "TeabagBigguns"
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Via my video game shooter knowledge, I can operate and reload just about every firearm from 1905 to 2022. Yes they’re all pretty similar but most are just different enough.
The most important lesson FPS has taught me is that it's always faster to switch to the knife than to reload.
No hands on experience with a firearm equals no experience. If you've never shot anything irl you have no idea of what to expect.
I bet you think you can drive a tractor-trailer because you can do it in a video game.
I bet you didn’t know that I know I can brake down and reassemble both an AK and just about any striker fire pistol blindfolded. I can discipline my trigger and hit my targets. It’s not all rocket science.
I have no hands on experience with an ASVal A Scar17, an AR15 or a banelli shotgun but I still know how to operate the platforms better than a third of those who actually own them. No hands on experience meaning no experience is nonsense. You know professionals dry fire don’t you? Repetition muscle memory and knowledgeability, that’s all there is too it pal.
I read the user manual for the AR15 I bought recently. It actually says you can pop out the upper/lower pivot pins and disassemble the bolt carrier for cleaning. However do not try and disassemble anything else as you will likely cause damage.
I heard too many stories of people taking guns to pieces then some little tiny spring goes ziing onto the floor of your garage somewhere. Then you buy a replacement but turns out your AR has a proprietary spring. And so on.
TL;DR Don't screw with your guns especially blindfolded.
*break
This from an old combat vet, Vietnam.
And you think video games prepare you for combat? Got news for you. Keep in mind this kid lives in Alabama. If you don't know what that means, maybe look it up?
Video games are war's book learning. Once you trmper it with experience, you are significantly better equipped to deal with the reality.
He probably got experience by hunting.
That's strange. I don't recall a single day flying over Vietnam that equates to any games. That's both North and South Vietnam, doing medevacs, CSAR, insertions and extractions. Almost invariably under fire. My kids are not prepared for any kind of war. One is a 2 dan black belt karate, if I recall correctly. He decided he was hot shit, much better trained than his old man. Being a h2h instructor myself, he didn't last 30 seconds. And he played games much of his previous life. Neither son was able to put a bullet into a beer can without major practice. Both are or were gamers. Tactics? There is no chance the games prepare anyone for tactics. That, unfortunately for many, has to include such military instruction as "The Art of War", which becomes meaningless when faced with a foe that doesn't follow Tsu. You can say it's like chess: there are rules, there are books and books of the various chess tactics the masters have used. What if someone comes along and breaks those standards? Equate that with the Vietcong tactics - they didn't really have many. VC just raised hell, did some raids on cities, raised hell with villages, and did little ambush things along with laying booby traps and such. When 1968 came, with Tet, and the NVA recruited the VC into the regulars, they got their skinny little asses kicked; at the end of Tet, the VC were no longer viable and were effectively abandoned, with the assaults on RVN villages etc becoming NVA operations. It is certainly true that the operators of drones and the like are better equipped to do those things if games were played, there is NO substitute for actually being under fire and doing the things we did.
You could just as easily say " I don't recall a single day flying over Vietnam that equates to any basic training."
How about, " I don't recall a single day flying over Vietnam that equates to any flight school." ?
Funny how learning needs to be tempered with experience. I wish someone could have pointed that out directly or something.
But, no, you're probably right. We shouldn't train troops at all. Nothing will ever prepare them. Especially a game.
https://www.wired.com/2008/01/americas-army-t/
Depends on the training. No 'basic' training is really training. However, the training my group went through was thorough, very few of us made it all the way, and we were definitely prepared for Vietnam. The four of us that did complete already had some small time there, but not necessarily doing what the SOG did. Flight school dealt with the aircraft and duties of the crew. To get our wings, we had to know that helo better than the pilots. NATOPS is not a little book. The H-3 Sikorsky isn't simple, like the Huey. The other stuff is different. Just as thorough. In some cases, such as SERE (all three we did), unless you keep in mind where you really are, and many don't, you'll be convinced you're in a POW camp, at least during Vietnam. The current crop seems to have no idea about that, beginning in the mid 70s, when standards were lowered to increase recruitment. And mommies could call MCRD or other and complain about the treatment of their kiddies. We didn't have that luxury.
One can put this into some small perspective with respect to Q's version of the globalist 16 year plan: the effective castration of the military was included, except the globs thought their programs wouldn't quite as effective as they were. That's something you can track easily.
As to basic, even back then (in the 60s), when the average recruit was in far better physical condition, it's necessary to prep them for the physical stresses, but you're right - NO training will prep them for going under fire.
Mental gymnastics aren't your strong suit. Were I you, Id give it up and instead see what was said instead of what I want to argue about.
Look in the mirror.
Ah, the classic "no u". Glad to know a "Vietnam vet" can still act 12.
Florida Man used to get all the press, but for my money Alabama Man is to be more feared.
Don't doubt Gen Z.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy7PDlnaHzU
“ So anyway, I started blastin “.
I find this story rough and unfair.
Somebody get this boy a puppy!!!
Fortnite is the collective personification or two more weeks.
That's quite an old story: 2016
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Fantastic.
Kid got lucky. Plain and simple. And I highly doubt it was video games that taught him how to shoot properly.
I can assure you from real life experience, FPS games don't teach people anything realistic about war.
My brother and I once wiped out a whole paint ball field in about 10 min without ever taking a hit. Paintball is about as close as it gets to a real war zone for 99% of America. Tier 1 guys like my brother and I love playing against "weekend warriors" who think they're badass because we get to teach these idiots some lessons on how it's really done. To see idiots clam up on a paintball field is funny to me. And they think they're hot shit going into match because they "train" on gaming consoles, too. I don't know how many times I've heard these idiots bragging about winning on Fortnite, PUBG, or COD and how badass they are, only to get wiped off the paintball grounds by a couple of former REAL LIFE war fighters. And we're not nearly as fast or accurate as we once were.
FPS games don't teach people shit, except how idiotic and braggadocious Normies can be. There's a reason why Veterans are 3%'ers.
🤨 You a D-boy, DN, RRC, or 24th? I'm going to cringe hard if not.
Sweet Home! Fuck yea!
Based kid
I can confirm this stuff works too. I'm old by gamer standards given I have some grey hair, but I have been playing since Doom 3d.
First time I bought a gun about 5 years back, I was shooting 6 inch groups at 25 yards with a 9mm back to back. Not impressive, but I would like to think not bad for a total noob with real guns. Enough I had to convince the range instructor it really was my first time shooting.
And more critically, fps games teach people how not to get shot, and how to work angles. They teach the common ways most people will try to rush and flank, and how people will path through obstacles.
Sure games are nothing like real life, but I have to think if they are fit and not ham planets, gamers are gonna be better than average conscripts who never touched a game.
This never gets old! Good job kid!
That kid is awesome. https://youtu.be/Oo9buo9Mtos
I really hope you don't all think any mainstream shooter is at all analogous to combat and weapons training. The only skills you could possibly learn (besides recognition of different types of firearms, and even that's suspect if you're playing something like Fortnite [or any other "free" shooter that can't afford to license real guns] instead of something made with help from the American military) are very basic tactics and awareness, which you could learn just as well from Splatoon or an MMO.
The vast majority of kids who play shooter games don't actually have guns in their house. This one did, and I think that's the much more important distinction to be made here.