DANGER: Article V Convention Legislation filed in Congress: They Want a New Constitution
If Congress calls an Article V convention, you can be sure that a new Constitution will be imposed on us. The convention of 1787 was called “for the sole and express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation”. But the convention proposed a new Con...
I've often pointed out to my socialist and other big-government friends that all the positive things YOU want government to do, never happen when government gets big enough to do them because YOU aren't the one in power. PSYCHOPATHS are (for the most part) the ones willing to scratch, claw, cheat, steal, and even kill to get into power. Psychopaths don't run governments they way YOU want them run.
Psychopaths rule the world. (Fixing that is The Plan in a nutshell).
So, about a new Constitutional Convention: Even well-meaning normies -- hell, well-meaning pedes in many cases -- would add crap that would mess things up, and you just KNOW that the Cabal would do EVERYTHING possible to get their own sleepers into the Convention.
I can think of several ways to improve the Constitution, but I have zero belief that my personal faves would get added in, and a very high expectation that something horrible would end up in the final product.
...you have a firm grasp of the situational reality....
Enter thousands of reporters,
"This is very dangerous for our democracy", insert "Republic". There, fixed it and now the story is real.
I am 100% against a Convention of States. I think those proposing this do so are plants who wish to destroy the Constitution and do not do this through any altruistic beliefs in liberty or justice.
The only way Id be for the altering of the Constitution in any way is to remove every Amendment past the 10th.
Yup, bedt we stick with what we have and enforce the use as it sits. Get rid of all the stupid case law they twist into it too
True, and they put this NEWSTATES Constitution together for about 2 Million dollars sometime between 1968 and 1973.....
But they are NOT to be trusted, it's as much a Communist Constitution as there ever has been, just read it, it'll seriously spook you if you understand exactly what you're reading.....
It's as if they brought Lincoln, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot into a room and told them to do their worst, then had Soros, Gates and Klaus Schwab, go through it and adjust it so it would fit the NWO better.....
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/concon/newstates.htm
The US. Constitution was 'almost' perfect but they failed to put teeth and PUNISHMENT=automatic Treason for the Elected Criminals that KNOWINGLY Violate their Oath when they are elected. IF THAT were added, 70% of the criminals in DC would be dragged into the street and hanged.
No matter how many "teeth" you put, a constitution is only as good as the people who cherish it. Knowing the Cabal ways, if there was an automatic treason clause, they would concoct some way to frame good people with this, get them executed and then get people to hate that clause. Its a formula they always use.
The only thing I want in the Constitution if I could go back in time is, at minimum, automatic treason if you even so much as submit a law that is plainly unconstitutional.
Or if judges knowingly rule against it
So true! In the end, force makes the rules. If you don't like the rules, have more force!
Not If the LIES of 'lawyers' are included. The TRUTH will stand and the lie will always have to be twisted and covered up=MSM and Lawyers.
Lawyers and judges are problems. They are in cahoots to destroy people. Of course MSM and congress
...that is all well and good...
...unfortunately, the ones who are worthy of hanging, are the ones who will be controlling this "convention"....
I agree IF it is allowed. The States (The Republic) Must control the Lies of MSM and use The Law to reveal the truth.
Nope, that won't work, either. The government would just write its own definitions of "truth" and "lies."
a public tar and feathering first, then 3 days later the hanging.
It's in the Original 13th Amendment....
It's called the Titles of Nobility Amendment, and gave Teeth to the clause, which we COULD use as part of the Treason thing, especially in light of all the Money they keep Gifting to other nations, which whether true or not, probably makes them into some sort of Royalty over there.....
they may be anyway
Not a chance. As far as I'm concerned, every red is a blue sleeper agent.
Not me.
...absolute ironclad truth....
The convention is controlled by state legislature.
I disagree. The fact that they're trying to change it tells me they're afraid of it.
The states convention is a state level representative meeting that allows the state legislatures to circumvent the federal government. This is absolutely a good and useful tool. Are you telling me you don't want people like Kari Lake and Ron Desantis getting together to make decisions that limit the federal government?
Solution: make your state representative work on rescinding all of Art 5 convention applications in your state, i.e.: Convention of States, Balanced Budget Amendment, Term Limits, Wolf-pac, etc. It's only a matter of time until those trigger a Constitutional Convention aka Art 5 Convention, which will mark the end of the US Constitution.
Some helpful organisations: John Birch Society, Eagle Forum of Phillis Schlafly, Freedom First Society of Dan Fotheringham, Guard the Constitution of Shawn Meehan.
...optimistic people are fun to be around....
I'm not an American (PL), so I'm unqualified to instruct You in that matter. Nevertheless, I've been observing how the COS, BBA and other pro-Article-5-convention organisations, push their agenda through: they created organized and indoctrinated local cells of support and pressed their representatives by i.e. petitions (some fraudulent) possibly also: visits, letters, phone calls etc.
One thing is for sure: "Ask and You shall receive", especially when done in numbers and in a polite and educated way. It's my impression that state representatives are usually susceptible to opinion of their electorate. Some are not, they literally sold their support to COS etc. Good luck!
I got interested in this issue, because I find US Constitution miraculous and I realized early on that COS and others are nothing else but a malicious attempt of destroying it, by praying on naive, but good willing people.
Lol @ John Birch Society
....compelling observations, nicely stated and framed....
Oh sure, if you committed a crime, just call that an omission instead of a crime. If you murder someone, just call that an accident instead.
Same playbook no difference.
Animal Farm is a book to read.
...absolute truth....
...all animals are equal....
...some animals are more equal than others....
Dog is god spelling backward. Of course they are more than equal.
Learn lots of my furry 4 legged friends.
Hey, where are you in relation to KY? Just passed by KY and got over into OH
...I have a home outside of Ashland KY....
...and a residence in Ashland OH...
...and what the heck would you be doing so far east?
So I passed by then on I-64.
Traveling and on vacation. A long deserved one since escaping communist NW.
this is how they get rid of the bill of rights.
Hear, HEAR!!!
The problem isn't the house, but the tenants. As the landlords, it's well past time that we evict these shits.
Indeed. "We" are partly to blame, although when I say "we" I mean the American voters in the general sense... imo negligent voters, like negligent landlords, should be stripped of their responsibilities.
The only way possible to get term limits. Stop with the scare tactics. Whether it's congress or the states, it's 2/3, then the ultimate test will be 3/4 of the states for ratification. Just for an amendment. Chicken Little Birchers thinking the whole Constitution can be rewritten is pure bullshit.
So let’s put this to a vote of, for and by the people ONCE elections are totally secure and legal. I bet the majority will vote NO. In case they have forgotten, they serve at the will of the people. They do not serve to further personal agendas. The number in the House and Senate are far from the majority opinion. It is time to disband a Congress because they are no longer acting in the interests of the majority, but merely to pad their own pockets and furthering their plans/wishes. Think how much money, we, the wage earners will save by defunding and disbanding: DOJ, FBI, DOE, HHS, CIA, Congress, IRS. CDC, FDA, NIH. This is just for starters. Just wait until we are on a roll!
"I bet the majority will vote NO."
Not if the TV is telling them to vote YES.
Term limits. No financially benefiting with knowledge gained in serving the people. Some logical way to decertify elections when proof is presented. Better election certification principals No bureaucracies - only elected people make our rules
Def love no pork bills and more voting
Rick Santorum has been leading the charge on this topic for a number of years and he appeared on Bannon's Warroom on September 24 to clear up what appear to be real misconceptions regarding the scope of the effort.
I too was once skeptical of the Article V Convention concept for many of the reasons expressed here. However, my mind was changed after I watched this segment.
21 minutes's time invested in watching this segment will go along way to better educating people as to what the true scope of the Article V convention is. It is not as it has been portrayed on this thread.
Convention of States Project: Rick Santorum briefs Steve Bannon on the Convention of States movement to restrain federal tyranny
https://rumble.com/v1lefmd-rick-santorum-briefs-steve-bannon-on-the-convention-of-states-movement-to-r.html
I wonder if the Bill's mentioned in the article, H.Con.Res.101 and H.R. 8419 Are being used to distract from a people-states driven push to convene.
There is a ongoing #2 option from the states, https://conventionofstates.com/ That started with fiscal responsibility as the first item of business and I think term-limit discussion is also added.
That should be part of the Discussion then, How to implement term limits, Simplest would be a Ballot section every election, Keep or Remove option. But are you saying there should only be a vote to decide a term limit or a vote every term to make that a limit?
Poor grammar in this article. Hard to read.
There are two ways to have a convention of states to secede from the Union. California, Utah and Texas have models and brilliant cases for doing so. No one on this thread has confidence that even if Trumps wins in 2024 he’ll do what is needed, which is extract the cancer out of this country. Conservatives are soft and you’re not radical to do to progressives what they promised to do to you. YOU WILL BE IN CAMPS BY THE TIME THIS IS DONE. Ideologically we are not compatible. We need to disunion, the constitution was created at a time where there was a lesser population, most people were culturally homogenized. States need to become their own countries. It will not be easy, but neither will living in a Global Democracy where you eat bugs and own nothing and are simplified down to your reproductive organs. Do the math on how many states pay billions more to Washington DC than they get back. Stop pretending as if everything will be fine if Trump comes back. It won’t! Patriots have to reconcile if you have the courage to cut off Joe Biden’s purse. You have to confront that the reasons you would not want to secede are the exact reasons you should, AND if you’re against secession NEVER EVER open your mouth to talk about freedom again. YOU are not free and never were if you can’t leave a union. Patriots may have furthered the globalists reach for them thinking they helped “spread Democracy.” We are not getting out of this without a divorce. Biden can’t fund war if you don’t fund him, and we can’t carry the military of other countries if states decided to leave peacefully. We would move off of our own currency, backed by gold or silver. The answer is secession.
Not opposed, but this isnt the right time. Some cleanin up needs done first. Too many snakes about to get this done in good faith.
My preference, indeed.
...exactly....
This would be the biggest backfire of all time. Bring it.