Christianity is the only religion that preaches forgiveness. That is why they are such an easy target for war mongering religions like Islam and Judaism. Other peaceful religions like Taoism, buddhism, and paganism are passive but not as forgiving. “Turn the other cheek” is being used against Christians to turn them into a door mat. It requires a three digit IQ to understand the concept of forgiveness to promote a homogenous society.
I think the evil powers have now realized every time they try to eradicate Christianity out right it produces a generation of hardened “ultra right” (not a bad thing at all) conservative Christians, the strategy now if you look for it is happening on a subliminal submersible level “ If you can’t eradicate them, infiltrate them”. Example Methodist/LGBTQ, Pop/culture/Mainstream Christianity, Social Justice Christians etc. Something like only 13% of Christians read their Bible. That’s a 90% religious population that doesn’t even read its creed, it’s commandments, it’s beginning, it’s end. Completely Bible illiterate. We’ve seen what happens when you create generations of American illiterate children… I can’t imagine what seminary looks like these days, Academia is subverted in every other sector so to think Seminary has been spared is naive. The eventually goal is eradication yes, but I think the new strategy is bible illiteracy and church infiltration.
When natural law Is obeyed by everyone that is all that is needed..
.loving everybody which followers of Christ say they are doing does not mean only people who think like they do
..it encompasses everyone's sovereign rights ....without being judged if people don't think like Christians to or act like Christians do.or worship who or what they do......that's people in every country....not America and other strong countries going and stealing the assets from other countries ....not respecting that we are ALL made equal..not just Americans
..otherwise saying you are a Christian is just so many empty words and certainly won't be recognised as Christian behaviour
Christianity is unique among the major religions of the world, and the tombs of European Christianity that have bells in their towers do not represent it. Neither do the powerless edifices of silent American churches or the images of money-grubbing bait-and-switch preachers on television. Only the converted soul of a man or woman who does the will of God from a complete inward change truly represents the kingdom of God, and what forms it might take grows out of that. Look at the fruit. If they are justifying sin in their own lives or in their preaching, you will know they are not of God, but you must know it before they convince you not to look.
Jesus didn't come to establish another religion. He came to lead mankind back to the truth and save us from ourselves, and it is very personal for each individual. Religion, even religious Christianity, is an artificial cloak that works to conceal an unrepentant heart. It is what Christianity devolves into from repeated compromise. The result is always to justify half-way obedience to God's will, which is no obedience at all. But it is not what is on the outside that counts for a reformed soul. It is the truth of what is on the inside. Only Jesus, who came to us from God, can truly heal a broken soul, and it will never do to trust in the mimicry of holiness through religious observance. Being born again is a real thing. What unscrupulous men had erected by copying the world in all its forms is not. Always look at the fruit. That is how you can tell.
So what your basically saying is that if someone isn't a Christian they are end up a devil worshipping cultist??
Believe it or not, people can learn to love one another, treat one another with respect with out any religion. I fully believe that all religious truths will be revealed in the near future and it's not gonna be what most of you think it will be. I know, I'll cath a lot of hate like I always do when I disagree with these posts and that's fine. It doesn't effect me one way or another.
That's what the "4 horsemen of the Apocalypse" claimed, and yet, here we are with the Satanic church claiming abortion as a religious right, pedophilia, and even cannibalism being promoted by the elite (Marina Abramovich).
Believe it or not, people can learn to love one another, treat one another with respect with out any religion.
I don't. Religion is the base of civilization and once you take away that base, the civilization will begin to collapse though it may not happen overnight. Without religion to devote for a higher cause, humans are just an empty shell just like that civilization they live in. Their love and respect too is hollow and shallow.
No religion necessary. Christianity has some things right but it's still a cult just like the rest of em.
Spirituality doesn't require organized religion telling you what to think (true, there is more going on than we can see). It's just another slave system masquerading as freedom.
Just for argument's sake, the concept of freedom is a meme itself. At our roots we are social pack predators with a need to organize ourselves into semi-peaceable structures, benefitting from each other but not hurting each other. That "sweet spot" differs for each person. It's probably impossible for most npcs to find that on their own. Religious and secular institutions help people try to find a spot. We are experiencing the consequences of what happens when those institutions get unbalanced.
I read that nation will rise against nation----the word translated to "nation" is the Greek "ethnos" which means RACE or TRIBE against RACE. Blacks and whites as an example. Sad state for humanity!
This has always been the way of the world. Read some Roman texts on how they viewed black people back then. Everyone has always been pitted against each other.
Life is competitive and harsh. Evolution is a meat grinder.
A better question is, why Christianity has been so relentlessly attacked? I don't see them blaming other religions for humanity's ills, and don't tell me it's just because I don't notice that it happens. Christianity has-been singled out by the criminal elites for special persecution to the end of eradicating it from the earth, and they are not telling the truth about Christianity while they lie about everything else. If evil Satanic "rulers" are so concerned about the influence of Christianity, that should tell you where the truth lies that will end them.
It has been attacked by those who believe in its adversaries. And that adversary, the evil supernatural being named SATAN, is an invention by the Roman Canon. And don't forget, that this same institution established its own authority and label all other Christians who are in their way as heretics, hunt them down, and murder them to extinction.
And you wonder why (Canonic) Christianity is so attacked today. It is called Karma.
Think before you use the word. What kind of "Satan" were you talking about? The non-existent supernatural being? Or just the simple concept of adversary. Satan can be anything that is adversarial, to anything, but the popular Satan almost always refers to the adversary to good, the adversary to the Divine.
The first thing we have to address is the definition of Satan. While fundamentalists will tell you that Satan was present in the Bible from the very foundations laid in Genesis, history tells us a different story. The words Satan, Devil, demon, Lucifer, fallen angel etc. simply don't occur in the whole of the book of Genesis. Throughout the Old Testament, the one and only God is presented as all powerful, without equal and in no competition with any other cosmic force. The Old Testament makes it clear that any 'adversary' to God's people was ultimately under the control of God Himself. ...
It was a Canonic invention, after the Romans usurped Christianity in the 3rd century and declared itself as the sole authority of the Christendom. They also created Lucifer out of nothing - merely from ONE verse which is lost from translation:
The word “Lucifer” occurs only once in the entire Bible. This is in Isaiah 14:12, which says: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” Those who read this verse in its actual context will clearly see that the sentence is applied specifically to a certain Babylonian king who was an enemy in war of the Israelites. The original Hebrew text uses the word הֵילֵל which literally means “bright star” or “shining one,” a term applied sarcastically or mockingly by the Israelites to this particular enemy of theirs. The translators of the King James Version of the Bible – one of the chief of whom was the well known Rosicrucian initiate Dr Robert Fludd, a fact which will no doubt shock and horrify many Christians – chose to translate this word with the Latin word “Lucifer.” ...
All evils in the East today was imported from the West beginning in the late 19th century, as a result of the evildoers in the West targeting the East, for its values, culture, and faith.
Out of all 5 millennia of Chinese history there was no record of evils that can match that of the West.
That is the point. Never once there is such a criminal and evil act, of a government who mass murder its people for the even the slightest opposition, before the importation of Communism from the West. Your turn.
My point was that you're shilling for the CCP - whether intentionally or out of ignorance. The absolute nonsense you are peddling right now is straight from their script.
I'm not going to bother with teaching you about Chinese history. You can easily educate yourself if you so desire.
Its true. Its like they romanticize pre-Christain culture like it was some sort of 70s hippie love fest of freedom till Jews came and ruind it with its prude rules.
There was no freedom. If anything, Christianity brought freedom. Saying the individual governs the self.
That was revolutionary!
Before that, you were a slave to society, and the family clan. You had no individualism. You certainly didnt have the luxury to exsist as a loner back then either. You needed to be a socially accountable part of society to survive without modernism.
You couldn't exsist as some perpetualent child with repugnant social skills that refuses to work.
What muddles the positive impact the Christan revolution had on society is the Catholic crusades.
Catholics are just pagans cloaked with a veil of Christianity.
Roman powers that be knew they couldnt stop the Christain movment. So they assimilated it to get ahead of the trend, to lord over and profit off it as the centralized morally superior authority.
Pre-Catholic Rome threw Christians in lion pits and persecuted anyone who didn't fall under their specific brand of authority afterwords.
Not saying good people like Martin Luther couldnt be produced from the catholic church. But its awlays a spit in the eye of true Christianity.
What muddles the positive impact the Christan revolution had on society is the Catholic crusades
I strongly disagree. Stopping pedophile slave trading Muslims from invading Europe further means Christians were willing and able to cement their place in the world. The crusades were a time of great men fighting for God and Christianity. This was a glorious time in my opinion and much better than the passionless worms in much of today's society.
I've always argued with libs and atheist that the foundation of morality is built on theologies. Without them we are animalistic, driven only by our own self interest and perpetual needs to promot our genetic existence. Though all theologies are different, as are their moral codes, the ones that have endured the test of time are the ones that have a symbiotic relationship with their hosts. Any theology that doesn't perpetuate its own existence along with population that supports will die. Its a dawinistic stance on all religions.
As Terence Mckenna pointed out in his book The Archaic Revival, Gobekeli Tepe is one of the oldest known civilizations and they had no need for fortifications. They revered the mushroom and the human body.
(Thread) Gobekli Tepe had a skull cult (aka their religion), but nearby Çayönü Tepesi had a dedicated House of Skulls. A building crammed with over 450 bodies, inc 90 skulls, many with vertebrae still attached. A large altar stone with a flint knife soaked in human and animal blood completes the image.
Researchers at the Neolithic ritual center of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey have discovered this fragment of a human skull (below), one of three that were carved and altered after death, and possibly put on public display.
As others on this thread have said, one of the most important things about the spread of Christianity was that it halted the practice of human sacrifice.
I took the "blood" references, as you mentioned above, as meaning, "You no longer have to sacrifice your children or any other humans in an effort to please your god. Christ did that for you, once and for all. It's no longer necessary, so stop doing it."
Christianity would only be a blood cult if its followers continued to use blood rituals that used actual blood. But they don't. Again, Christ put a stop to that.
That's interesting. I don't think most of us have a good appreciation for the ancient role of blood sacrifices. It was probably quite the revelation to be confronted with the "beginning of the end" of the blood sacrifice.
I agree - it sounds like many, many ancient cults were built around human sacrifice. And what's really shocking is that it still goes on today. Most people don't believe that - they think we're too modern and educated for that stuff - but sadly, they're wrong. It's still there and it happens among the highest levels, not the lowest.
Christianity is the only religion that preaches forgiveness. That is why they are such an easy target for war mongering religions like Islam and Judaism. Other peaceful religions like Taoism, buddhism, and paganism are passive but not as forgiving. “Turn the other cheek” is being used against Christians to turn them into a door mat. It requires a three digit IQ to understand the concept of forgiveness to promote a homogenous society.
A homogenous society is what's needed indeed!
Differing cultures will not respect Christianity or forgiveness and that is the problem. A return of the crusaders needs to happen imo.
I think the evil powers have now realized every time they try to eradicate Christianity out right it produces a generation of hardened “ultra right” (not a bad thing at all) conservative Christians, the strategy now if you look for it is happening on a subliminal submersible level “ If you can’t eradicate them, infiltrate them”. Example Methodist/LGBTQ, Pop/culture/Mainstream Christianity, Social Justice Christians etc. Something like only 13% of Christians read their Bible. That’s a 90% religious population that doesn’t even read its creed, it’s commandments, it’s beginning, it’s end. Completely Bible illiterate. We’ve seen what happens when you create generations of American illiterate children… I can’t imagine what seminary looks like these days, Academia is subverted in every other sector so to think Seminary has been spared is naive. The eventually goal is eradication yes, but I think the new strategy is bible illiteracy and church infiltration.
When natural law Is obeyed by everyone that is all that is needed..
.loving everybody which followers of Christ say they are doing does not mean only people who think like they do ..it encompasses everyone's sovereign rights ....without being judged if people don't think like Christians to or act like Christians do.or worship who or what they do......that's people in every country....not America and other strong countries going and stealing the assets from other countries ....not respecting that we are ALL made equal..not just Americans
..otherwise saying you are a Christian is just so many empty words and certainly won't be recognised as Christian behaviour
Christianity is unique among the major religions of the world, and the tombs of European Christianity that have bells in their towers do not represent it. Neither do the powerless edifices of silent American churches or the images of money-grubbing bait-and-switch preachers on television. Only the converted soul of a man or woman who does the will of God from a complete inward change truly represents the kingdom of God, and what forms it might take grows out of that. Look at the fruit. If they are justifying sin in their own lives or in their preaching, you will know they are not of God, but you must know it before they convince you not to look.
Jesus didn't come to establish another religion. He came to lead mankind back to the truth and save us from ourselves, and it is very personal for each individual. Religion, even religious Christianity, is an artificial cloak that works to conceal an unrepentant heart. It is what Christianity devolves into from repeated compromise. The result is always to justify half-way obedience to God's will, which is no obedience at all. But it is not what is on the outside that counts for a reformed soul. It is the truth of what is on the inside. Only Jesus, who came to us from God, can truly heal a broken soul, and it will never do to trust in the mimicry of holiness through religious observance. Being born again is a real thing. What unscrupulous men had erected by copying the world in all its forms is not. Always look at the fruit. That is how you can tell.
So what your basically saying is that if someone isn't a Christian they are end up a devil worshipping cultist?? Believe it or not, people can learn to love one another, treat one another with respect with out any religion. I fully believe that all religious truths will be revealed in the near future and it's not gonna be what most of you think it will be. I know, I'll cath a lot of hate like I always do when I disagree with these posts and that's fine. It doesn't effect me one way or another.
That's what the "4 horsemen of the Apocalypse" claimed, and yet, here we are with the Satanic church claiming abortion as a religious right, pedophilia, and even cannibalism being promoted by the elite (Marina Abramovich).
I don't. Religion is the base of civilization and once you take away that base, the civilization will begin to collapse though it may not happen overnight. Without religion to devote for a higher cause, humans are just an empty shell just like that civilization they live in. Their love and respect too is hollow and shallow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHQvhhKeBM0
No religion necessary. Christianity has some things right but it's still a cult just like the rest of em.
Spirituality doesn't require organized religion telling you what to think (true, there is more going on than we can see). It's just another slave system masquerading as freedom.
I agree that it's the part of the individual to obtain a higher purpose.
However, I still think the principles of Christianity are important when compared with all other religions of today.
Just for argument's sake, the concept of freedom is a meme itself. At our roots we are social pack predators with a need to organize ourselves into semi-peaceable structures, benefitting from each other but not hurting each other. That "sweet spot" differs for each person. It's probably impossible for most npcs to find that on their own. Religious and secular institutions help people try to find a spot. We are experiencing the consequences of what happens when those institutions get unbalanced.
I don't disagree... But telling people what to believe or else!!!
Well, that's blatant tyranny by way of fear through coercion... But somehow it's okay when a religious deity that claims to love you, does it?
Human standards are weird.
I read that nation will rise against nation----the word translated to "nation" is the Greek "ethnos" which means RACE or TRIBE against RACE. Blacks and whites as an example. Sad state for humanity!
This has always been the way of the world. Read some Roman texts on how they viewed black people back then. Everyone has always been pitted against each other.
Life is competitive and harsh. Evolution is a meat grinder.
Then why these pre-christian cults only seemed to exist in the West?
There is a reason Christianity is significant only to the West - the West lacks what the East have for thousands of years.
A better question is, why Christianity has been so relentlessly attacked? I don't see them blaming other religions for humanity's ills, and don't tell me it's just because I don't notice that it happens. Christianity has-been singled out by the criminal elites for special persecution to the end of eradicating it from the earth, and they are not telling the truth about Christianity while they lie about everything else. If evil Satanic "rulers" are so concerned about the influence of Christianity, that should tell you where the truth lies that will end them.
It has been attacked by those who believe in its adversaries. And that adversary, the evil supernatural being named SATAN, is an invention by the Roman Canon. And don't forget, that this same institution established its own authority and label all other Christians who are in their way as heretics, hunt them down, and murder them to extinction.
And you wonder why (Canonic) Christianity is so attacked today. It is called Karma.
If you don't believe Satan exists, then you have not done enough digging on the cabal & its actions over the past few thousand years.
Think before you use the word. What kind of "Satan" were you talking about? The non-existent supernatural being? Or just the simple concept of adversary. Satan can be anything that is adversarial, to anything, but the popular Satan almost always refers to the adversary to good, the adversary to the Divine.
It was a Canonic invention, after the Romans usurped Christianity in the 3rd century and declared itself as the sole authority of the Christendom. They also created Lucifer out of nothing - merely from ONE verse which is lost from translation:
I just did, and I'm not finished. And you?
Simple web searches would teach you about human trafficking in the East, the Yakuza, and human sacrifices in China...
See also, "one child policy"
All evils in the East today was imported from the West beginning in the late 19th century, as a result of the evildoers in the West targeting the East, for its values, culture, and faith.
Out of all 5 millennia of Chinese history there was no record of evils that can match that of the West.
Oh now I get it. 50-cent army.
Want to talk about Tiananmen square?
That is the point. Never once there is such a criminal and evil act, of a government who mass murder its people for the even the slightest opposition, before the importation of Communism from the West. Your turn.
My point was that you're shilling for the CCP - whether intentionally or out of ignorance. The absolute nonsense you are peddling right now is straight from their script.
I'm not going to bother with teaching you about Chinese history. You can easily educate yourself if you so desire.
Educate yourself? Yeah, you can go educate yourself right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DKGrNi62CI&list=PLNiGhWqYcxYtDRdYy6oFbnuC5hN_x9a1f&index=3
You can watch the whole series, or even buy the whole book, to realize how wrong you are.
Its true. Its like they romanticize pre-Christain culture like it was some sort of 70s hippie love fest of freedom till Jews came and ruind it with its prude rules.
There was no freedom. If anything, Christianity brought freedom. Saying the individual governs the self.
That was revolutionary!
Before that, you were a slave to society, and the family clan. You had no individualism. You certainly didnt have the luxury to exsist as a loner back then either. You needed to be a socially accountable part of society to survive without modernism.
You couldn't exsist as some perpetualent child with repugnant social skills that refuses to work.
What muddles the positive impact the Christan revolution had on society is the Catholic crusades.
Catholics are just pagans cloaked with a veil of Christianity.
Roman powers that be knew they couldnt stop the Christain movment. So they assimilated it to get ahead of the trend, to lord over and profit off it as the centralized morally superior authority.
Pre-Catholic Rome threw Christians in lion pits and persecuted anyone who didn't fall under their specific brand of authority afterwords.
Not saying good people like Martin Luther couldnt be produced from the catholic church. But its awlays a spit in the eye of true Christianity.
I strongly disagree. Stopping pedophile slave trading Muslims from invading Europe further means Christians were willing and able to cement their place in the world. The crusades were a time of great men fighting for God and Christianity. This was a glorious time in my opinion and much better than the passionless worms in much of today's society.
I've always argued with libs and atheist that the foundation of morality is built on theologies. Without them we are animalistic, driven only by our own self interest and perpetual needs to promot our genetic existence. Though all theologies are different, as are their moral codes, the ones that have endured the test of time are the ones that have a symbiotic relationship with their hosts. Any theology that doesn't perpetuate its own existence along with population that supports will die. Its a dawinistic stance on all religions.
I would think the default state of humanity without God would be to not exist.
It's bugman China
As Terence Mckenna pointed out in his book The Archaic Revival, Gobekeli Tepe is one of the oldest known civilizations and they had no need for fortifications. They revered the mushroom and the human body.
(Thread) Gobekli Tepe had a skull cult (aka their religion), but nearby Çayönü Tepesi had a dedicated House of Skulls. A building crammed with over 450 bodies, inc 90 skulls, many with vertebrae still attached. A large altar stone with a flint knife soaked in human and animal blood completes the image.
https://nitter.it/Paracelsus1092/status/1579352917412577282
OMG they altered it!
Researchers at the Neolithic ritual center of Göbekli Tepe in Turkey have discovered this fragment of a human skull (below), one of three that were carved and altered after death, and possibly put on public display.
It doesn't say that in there at all 🙄 😮💨
I didn't say it did.
Well where's your source?
https://www.archaeology.org/issues/281-1801/features/6165-turkey-neolithic-skull-cult
So in the article the altered means the skulls were defleshed, painted, and used for ceremonial purposes. You left out a bunch of text in your "quote"
As others on this thread have said, one of the most important things about the spread of Christianity was that it halted the practice of human sacrifice.
I took the "blood" references, as you mentioned above, as meaning, "You no longer have to sacrifice your children or any other humans in an effort to please your god. Christ did that for you, once and for all. It's no longer necessary, so stop doing it."
Christianity would only be a blood cult if its followers continued to use blood rituals that used actual blood. But they don't. Again, Christ put a stop to that.
That's interesting. I don't think most of us have a good appreciation for the ancient role of blood sacrifices. It was probably quite the revelation to be confronted with the "beginning of the end" of the blood sacrifice.
I agree - it sounds like many, many ancient cults were built around human sacrifice. And what's really shocking is that it still goes on today. Most people don't believe that - they think we're too modern and educated for that stuff - but sadly, they're wrong. It's still there and it happens among the highest levels, not the lowest.