Need help. I am currently red pilling my three brothers with Twitter and FTX. They don't believe that there is a connection with FTX and Ukraine. Any FTX research you can share would helpful.
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Start here: https://politicalmoonshine.com/2022/12/09/war-famine-and-disease-twitter-ftx-bankman-fried-ellison-ukraine-food-crisis-covid-19-and-climate-lockdowns-its-all-enterprise-fraud/
There are tons of links in there for Ukraine FTX connection. Dont just share this, rather read it, digest it, and drop crumbs to your friend.
Thanks. Sadly, it's my three brothers. Trying to wake them up has been a challenge.
You can never force them too hard. Always drop just enough crumbs that they cant easily push aside, not swallow, and that will force them to start digging (or if they llive in denial, you keep bringing it up)
Agreed.
Alex Berenson did an interview with the guy who predicted the FTX collapse. It doesn't talk about Ukraine, but he is pretty harsh on what a scam it was and how the media was covering it up by puffing it up. Might be a good aperitif to whet the appetite for later courses.
Part 1: https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/an-interview-with-marc-cohodes-the?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
Paper 2 https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/part-2-an-interview-with-marc-cohodes?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2
Yes, good idea!
Thank you! I appreciate these links.
I’m proud of you. I’m sure this has been a spirited conversation! Hang in there. I’m
Thanks. Ha. I should screen cap the whole text string. I actually think they are coming around. The MSM silence on Twitter is speaking volumes.
This is excellent! Not just Ukraine. It spells out all the covid, food, etc BS with citations painting the picture of what the THEY are doing to us. Thank you!
That's a good link. Some serious digging going on there. Bookmarked.
Don’t tell me they still believe Ukraine is the good guys. There is too much real truth out there.
I hope you get them red pilled. Somebody give this guy some ammo!
Yes, they only watch the mainstream media. So pathetic. Twitter reveal and MSM silence is helping but yes they are buying the MSM narrative on Putin. They wouldn't believe me on FTX.
I would ask them this to help open their minds. If Trump was so deeply in bed with Russia, like the media pushed, why then didn't Putin invade Ukraine when Trump was in office? If they still think Russia is so bad, this will at least give them a bit of pause. It makes zero sense, if what the media and the left pushed was real. However, if it's NOT real, which it isn't, then what else could they have lied about with regards to Russia and Ukraine?
Ask them msm will ignore something so big as the twitter files, what else are they not reporting? Ask them where do they think all the money went?
Unfortunately, the real truth “still” mainly lies within the Anon world and or tangential places.
For whatever reason White Hats aren’t ready for full exposure on this situation. Like everything else they seem to want it to sloooowllllyy creep into the psyche’s of normies.
I assume they realized that the ppl who would be left at this point are probably susceptible to flipping shit and going postal if awakened to quickly, this has been my Achilles Heel!
I’m stuck wanting WHs to get on with it and let the normies fall as they will. And, at the same time being in awe of how this plan has managed to keep the world, America in particular, from going Ape Shit over all the revelations.
Pretty sure most everyone here is feeling the same🤷🏻♂️
I’ve been trying to do the same. The problem trying to redpill people who only watch msm is they think msm is the only place for sources. You can’t get them to read something on a website called politicalmoonshine.com for example. They barely believe Tucker Carlson.
Have you ever thought WHs chose the names and personalities of red pill machines with the intention that lots of folks would be turned off by them?
We all know demtards/normies like to dismiss the source before debating the substance.
They had to know that a certain amount of the population would know how to discern truth regardless of personality, website name or the way something is written i.e. sensational.
And, if you have decided before hand that it was best to wake people up in stages/slowly while at the same time using the ones who have excellent discernment to help explain things then all of this makes more sense.
Just my two cents ..
They think anything that does not come from their preferred MSM is conspiracy theory.
What the Media Won't Tell You About Sam Bankman-Fried/FTX
https://youtu.be/BJnQPmKtJog
Intel Drop #22 - FTX Collapse, Election Fraud & More
https://justpaste.it/gideon-intel-drop-22
I think FTX knowledge could definitely help to redpill our friends and family. They might not care, though, cuz they think, "Anything, including crimes, is celebrated if it stops MAGA people and Trump. We have to save our democracy!".
My favorite way to redpill (cuz it matters to them personally) is to show the two studies Fauci quoted as being the reason he pushed Remdesivir. The ebola study in 2019 said 51% of the participants given Remdesivir died, so the drug was pulled before the study ended. The other study was done by Gilead, who owns Remdesivir, so it is invalid. Even that truth alone can lead them to distrust everything else. Secondly, the FDA docs on Remdesivir show it can cause kidney failure, which can make the lungs fill with fluid. So, those two facts lead to the conclusion that many hospital deaths could have been caused by Remdesivir, not covid. Because many normies lost hospitalized loved ones who were given Remdesivir, they may just have enough skin in the game to wake up and get angry.
Then I show the FDA doc saying Ivermectin is "tolerated well"...and quote some studies about how well it works to stop viruses from bonding with the nucleus, thus making covid sufferers healthy quickly and less contagious.
If they say it is "horse dewormer", I show them that Ivermectin is on the WHO's list of Essential Medicines and expose the fake article in Oklahoma, on which the news reported, where supposedly people wearing winter coats were lined up outside the emergency room in August after treating themselves with "horse dewormer". Then, I ask when in history doctors were prevented from treating patients early in an illness with a drug that works...and why the news needed to lie about that Oklahoma report.
Then I tell them about people I personally connected with docs who would prescribe Ivermectin and pharmacies who filled the scripts, resulting in their lives being saved. ..even when they were already in the hospital on the verge of being intubated. I work in the medical field, so they believe me.
These trues really can piss them off...and wake them up .
I point out how they lied about two weeks to flatten the curve and turned it into 2 years.
Good one. No denying that! Now we can tell them about the WEF discussing climate change lockdowns, too.
Why not believe it? What's actually holding that belief back? I don't counter someone on data, I counter them on logical thought processing. Why not believe that Ukraine govt has the possibility of being corrupt? Isn't ours? Are people just "good" naturally? Why blindly support something with no hard data, but be in disbelief when you are presented with some? If you don't truly want to know what's going on, why entertain the subject? Isn't it easier to just be indifferent, or at least respectful enough to say "I'm not sure if I believe that, but I can't say it isn't happening, since I am not a witness to any of it"?
The thing we have to work on most is not proving a point or getting into debate, it's acknowledging the difference between people who are interested in the situation and truly want to help others understand and those who are egocentric attention seekers who act immature by nature and only want to see the fire rise rather than keep the peace. If they don't want to understand, then let them not. Let that be their loss. If after a few minutes of conversation is not working, just let it go. Just my humble opinion.
Smart thinking. Me? At this point I'm so pissed of that the first words out of my mouth are fuck you.
That's part of the game they play; to get that reaction. Don't give it to them
They literally had a public announcement of partnering together from earlier this year.
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZDvHR94y/this-ftx-story-is-getting--twitt/c/
{edit} I dropped a couple extra, semi-related links. Use at your discretion.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZE9Gu7rU/judicial-watch-defense-departmen/c/
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZDzzGi0H/uniparty-minority-leader-mitch-m/c/
Plant seeds. I've had others plant ideas in my head that took awhile to sprout.
Yup,, and that’s why we are here and they are not.
Two paths…
the history of Ukraine since the US coup that installed a comedian. Include Victoria Nulands leaked phone calls. Zelinskyys installation. Hunter Biden energy board scandal. Joe Biden bragging he got the investigator looking at hunter fired (CFR video) and Azov battalion.
FTX bankruptcy, SBF Democrat donations, Maxine waters kissing SBFs butt. No movement of the administration to touch the theft of billions.
At that point they can probably put two and two together on their own.
Learning the history of Ukraine, especially going back further and finding out how all these ethnic Russians ending up becoming Ukrainians, would be a major red pill (Kruschev's Mistake). There's a great documentary called Donbass, that's amazingly still up on youtube, and it shows clearly what the Ukrainians have been doing to their own citizens in the east. I showed it to my mother and she was redpilled hard, to the point where she's glad Russia invaded. Somebody has to help those poor people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JovKkDvAU9Y
catch it anons:
https://www.financialexpress.com/blockchain/aid-for-ukraines-54m-cryptocurrency-fund-buys-vests-uavs/2634609/
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/ukraine-military-aid-from-usa-was-invested-in-crypto-ftx-by-ukraine/
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/14/ukraine-partners-with-ftx-everstake-to-launch-new-crypto-donation-website/
https://thepostmillennial.com/ukraine-invested-in-top-dem-donors-crypto-company-ftx-as-biden-admin-funded-war-effort-report
https://investorplace.com/2022/11/ukraine-crypto-donations-in-focus-as-ftx-collapses/
https://decrypt.co/95054/ftx-partners-co-launches-crypto-fundraising-site-for-ukraine
Hope it will help.
@bubble_burst : this is one way. Anther way is total bombardment, blanked bombing over one precise target without mercy. Would be more nice if that would be nuke-calliber articles within MSM but as I have less time than usual time (fucking snow came... I know December, but such quantity fucked up whole my weekend...) those links are so all I would post and shall help anyway.
Those above are of course not enough,and @Gmlogmd1776 would need probably more.
by the way: https://greatawakening.win/search?params=FTX&community=GreatAwakening - @Gmlogmd1776 : you shall use search more often fren ;) Not searching more,as I have limited time today,many things which shall be done asap so... But for the beginning: more sources looking near being like MSM - while still proving what we know - better. Source popularity is good defence against MSM "fact-checkers" bullshit.
If you’ve covered all the aspects of the story that’s been given in the comments you might want to consider changing your delivery.?.
Also, as much as we want to believe that reaching family should be the easiest, I’ve found that it is actually the hardest. I think that’s due to having years of built up previous experiences with family. Those experiences causes family members to be precondition to you, where as, a not so close friend or random normie doesn’t know you so they don’t have much preconditioning to how they might respond to you in general.
This doesn’t mean give up! Not that you would ever do that..
It just means you really need to evaluate this family member and think about how they talk and learn and begin to approach them from that standpoint. It’s also always good to start off with something that you know they will agree with, so that you start off the convo with a positive that’s agreeable for them. This sets the tone of the conversation. Once you have established that, talk about how messed up/fucked up it is that xyz is happening. I don’t mean it’s fucked up in a way that points the blame on anyone in particular, just that the situation itself is messed up and you can’t believe that we live in a world where we have to discuss something like this. For whatever reason this approach lowers the guard of the other person and might get you another agreeable positive that you can follow up with some details on.
If you really want to get good at this I recommend reading a well known book on sales. Some of the same approaches that are used to close a deal are the same ones you will need to get these family members on your side.
If none of this works,, then they’re lost or will be lost till the truth bitch slaps them into reality. Unfortunately, there are going to be some that are like this and I’m betting these folks will be added to “suicide weekend” list. I hope not, but it seems highly likely. ):
I mean the link to the archived version of the site is all you really need to know:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221101164919/https://aid-for-ukraine.io/
Depending on how much your friend trusts SBF himself he has several direct tweets about it:
https://twitter.com/SBF_FTX/status/1496980981617946624
You could also reference direct tweets from The Deputy Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine:
https://nitter.net/abornyakov/status/1511711580899139584#m
https://nitter.net/abornyakov/status/1503439856101380099#m
"A fundraising crypto foundation @_AidForUkraine used @FTX_Official to convert crypto donations into fiat in March."
"Crypto proved to be a real life saver thanks to its ease of use. We at @mintsyfra made crypto donations even easier. Together with @everstake_pool and @FTX_Official we announce donate.thedigital.gov.ua — a website where you can donate crypto to save Ukraine."
The angle the "fact checkers" seem to be working on this is that Ukraine didn't invest in FTX, but of course that was never the allegation. Explain to your brothers what a "strawman argument" is and see if they understand how it applies to this situation.
Getting the NPCs familiar with logical fallacies is a great foundation to work from. Although normally their programming will abort to sportball or media worship once you're at that stage.
throw new Error("hey did you hear about that sportball happening?")
FTX partnership with Ukraine is latest chapter in shady Western aid ...
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/11/15/ftx-ukraine-western-aid/
r/Superstonk will be a great resource. Yeah I know it's reddit, but there are some great minds on that subreddit.
A Grand Unified Theory Of The FTX Disaster
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/grand-unified-theory-ftx-disaster
Numerous others writing about the FTX scandal have explained what appears to be a money laundering operation through Ukraine. I'll try to repeat it in a simple way, then move on:
It is noteworthy that the "Aid for Ukraine" website apparently set up by SBF and reportedly took in $60 million in donations is last picked up by the Wayback machine ten days prior to the U.S. Midterm elections.
https://unga.substack.com/p/the-perfect-trio-ftx-democrats-ukraine?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=504014&post_id=85013394&isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email
I think part of the massive resistance we see from the normies is the fear of losing their source of leadership.
"Normies" are those folks who are entirely followers. That's not always a bad thing; we can't have everybody constantly battling over who's going to run the show or else nothing would get done.
But the down side is that they need somebody to tell them what to do. They've got to have a leader to follow. And here you/we are, trying to tell them that their trusted leaders are trying to kill them and are terrible, evil people.
You can see why they resist this so much.