BREAKING: Alec Baldwin to be charged with involuntarymanslaughter in fatal Rust shooting
The announcement of the charge comes over two years after AlecBaldwin shot and killed 42-year-old cinematographer HalynaHutchins and injured director Joel Souza with a live round from aprop gun.
“a live round with a prop gun”….
..a prop gun can’t fire a live round. Those are called firearms. And a “trained actor” as Baldwin is, should know better. Or at least the guy who handed him the real gun. This is straight up a premeditated situation. Either to kill her, or get Baldwin in trouble, something. But for sure this is no accident. A real gun doesn’t accidentally end up on a movie set, esp nowadays.
Yeah, that does sound odd. You would think there would be no way to fire a real round from a prop gun. Though I'll admit, I no nothing about prop guns.
Movie sets use real guns. But, the odds of missing the intended target (the other actor) and hitting and killing an innocent bystander, that you just happen to not like, seem rather low.
No, they don’t use anything real. Not the gun, nor the ammo. Neither, outside of security, will be present. It’s been that way for a long time, and was solidified after The Crow.
And I’m referring to regular motion pictures….not some Seal Team 6 documentary. Where the actors are real service members kinda thing. Not sure about those. But if it’s all actors…yes, all fake.
I saw something years ago that gave me the impression that many of the guns they use are real, but the ammo is fake. But I could be wrong, so not arguing the point.
I was lead to believe the barrels of prop guns are intentionally too narrow to allow a proper caliber projectile to escape, they can fire blank round gas and smoke can leave the barrel, but if you put a live round in it and fired it'd damage it, perhaps even spectacularly.
but who knows if it was a 44 and someone put a 357 in it.. or anything with the right size brass and smaller projectile?
My son was on a movie set and they didnt use real guns that would be in any way operable at all
I have heard a theory that A-list Hollywood actors produce snuff films to exclusively screen for elites, and that Epstein island was mainly for the purpose of producing such films. Pretty far fetched theory but who knows.
Very weird how much spent live ammunition there was on the rust set.
Prop gun, real gun.. doesn't matter. What matters is proper weapon handling protocol no matter the weapon. Baldwin failed. No one is responsible for the death of this lady but Baldwin. Number one rule of weapon handling is to verify the weapons status the minute one takes control of the weapon. It's not the previous possessors responsibility, but the current possessor. Baldwin failed to execute this rule. She's dead because of this.
His defense team will try to spin this in every way imaginable: moon phase, sun angle, hemorrhoids, humidity, puppy farts, set armorer, PTSD of camera lens reflection, dry doughnuts and bad hair gel as the real reason the gun lept from its holster into Baldwins hand and then went "Pew!" all on its own.
Improper weapon handling protocol is the ONLY reason this woman is dead. It is indefensible from any point of argument. Baldwin, and only Baldwin failed to verify the weapon, no else is responsible for that but Baldwin. This is a no brainer... Baldwin is guilty.
Anything can fire a live round. Hell, as a kid I'd throw rocks at shotgun shells. Stupid? Yes. But it works. All you need is a force hitting the ignition point.
Prop guns don’t even have the firing capability, to fire a live round. A hammer and nail would have a chance, a prop gun is closer to a cap gun. Just straight up not able. Real guns and live rounds will not be on a movie set, unless someone had bad intentions.
Sadly my experience in some of this is from my younger days modeling, and trying to go into films. Meeting many people, I’m glad I no longer have anything to do with. They were very nice people, but I think now…how much crap was I about to get into in. And this was several years ago. Thank you Lord.
I am glad intervention occurred to get you out of that scene. I am so thankful that my son's own acting career was very short lived as a move out of state changed the course of an acting gig he was involved in that was just being pitched to Pedowood. By the grace of God, our whole family was removed from that world and did not have to find out through first hand experience what it is all about. Only problem is, many of his former child actor friends are still involved in it, two in particular, and one I really think has been exposed to far too much for such a young child and I am afraid of what she may have already experienced in that world...
Anything can fire a live round, as you said a hammer and nail.
Well no, not anything..I never said that. But is it possible for somethings? Yes. But a prop gun, would never be able to. It’s like snapping your fingers, and being able to fire a live round. Not gonna happen. Prop guns don’t have the mechanisms, nor the capability to even hold a real live round. And neither are allowed on movie sets. Except by, as ive said, security, or…someone with bad intentions. Which is what this was. Question is, who?
Right, I'm the one saying it. Anything can fire a live round if it is able to provide enough force to the ignition. You can throw a rock at a live round and if you hit it right it will explode.
It wasn't a prop gun. It was a replica gun being used as a prop.
That's a great question! Problem I have in this thread are that people are playing detective and pretending they solved the case
I’m not to familiar with replica firearms. I think I’ve seen some before, not sure. I’m over here thinking what’s the difference between a replica firearm and a real one?
And yea the “who” part is the real question. When we look into the female shot, her history is very interesting. It’s just kinda crazy to think ole Baldwin could be an assassin. I feel he may have been the patsy. But, targeted, directed, but unaware at the end result of, in a way, destroying himself.
There's great information out there on replica firearms being used on movie sets! I recommend checking them out. Lots of people post info on YouTube and independent sites detailing information about that, especially after the incident.
It is crazy to think Baldwin could be an assassin. In fact, it's downright stupid.
Doesn't this carry a sentence around two years?
That's a slap on the wrist to this dickhead.
And that's IF he's convicted.
Article said according to new mexico law (where it happened) it carries a possible 18-month and $5k fine penalty. Way soft. Agree. And I'm sure he'll probably beat that by doing "charitable" work and/or throw some cash at the victim's family. Repulsive.
You get more for a DUI in AZ
Wouldn't it be ironic if he was held in jail for a while, and then tried for a crimes against humanity in a tribunal?
Why would he be in a Mexican jail for a crime committed on U.S. soil?
My bad - New Mexico. I will edit to avoid confusion.
u/#haha
Does anyone find it fascinating that this is being announced TODAY? On National Popcorn Day? I have long thought that the Halyna Hutchins/Alec Baldwin story is comms because of her Ukrainian-Russian ties and back story. If I'm correct, is something happening on the Ukrainian front today?
Exactly. Why is the press avoiding pointing out that BALDWIN KILLED A UKRAINIAN WOMAN? Shouldn't he get extra punishment as a "hate crime"?
THE SHOT HEARD 'ROUND THE WORLD
He walked around free for 2 years...time to pay the piper
Indeed
$30 fine plus court cost
Way too soft of a potential sentence for this dbag.
Lock him up!
I don't care what he's charged with I just care about how long he's going to be in prison
I wonder how many weeks of community service he will get?
Nothing will happen to him
About fucking time.
He will get off with a fine and no jail time. They will site jail over crowding.
I’m sure they will start a gofundme to launder him some cash for the fines
Okay shill, who was the person he was pointing the gun at? An Actor? NO. And also gun safety isn’t a complex issue. It’s only complex to those who don’t have the required mental hardware to understand firearm safety principles, otherwise know as common sense. What did Voltaire say again?....
The scene called for him pointing the gun at the camera, not another actor.
So did he shoot the camera to death? Or did he just shoot the videographer to death?
Cameras are inanimate objects.
... if only he aimed at the camera.
...if only the gun wasn't loaded
...if only she didn't come in that day
...if only the director handing him the gun didn't say "COLD GUN!" loud enough for everyone to hear
...if only they weren't shooting a gun scene
...if only they weren't shooting and Alec Baldwin scene
...if only they weren't shooting a movie at all
...if only they were just playing chess
...if only they were cartoons
...if only you didn't poop your pants yesterday
Lol that last line had me laughing 😂
The people controlling them, looking through them, moving them around, etc are not, however.
Yes, that is correct.
So if that was sarcasm does that mean you do not actually despise Alec Baldwin? I may be an asshole but at least I know what I’m talking about.
Baldwin is a worthless piece of shit
My sarcasm was calling gun safety a complex issue. It is obviously not.
Thanks for clarifying.
They’re both criminally negligent.
I hope the NRA testifies against him as an expert witness on gun safety.
And so is the director who is responsible for the set as a whole
Not exactly. Weapon handling protocol. He violated it. Anytime one takes control of a weapon, it is that persons responsibility to verify the weapons status. Not the armorer, not the camera person, not the bus driver... It is solely on the individual (Baldwin) who takes control of the weapon the very second it is in his/her hand. Baldwin was taught this earlier in his career. He knows and understands the requirements. He didn't do the verification process? Cross examination will answer that. No matter how hard his defense tries to spin his story, This woman's death is solely on Baldwin. No one else.
IF he didn't verify, then he is facing manslaughter. If under cross examination he says he verified the weapon, then he's facing murder charges.... how this story unfolds!!
True, although any actor handling a real weapon should be trained.