You may not repair your own car any more (said the government)
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🧠 These people are stupid!
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Hey, I have a solution faggots: Make Cars Analog Again
I would like that.
Yes please
Sorry, Elon said digital is superior and he's the chosen face of transportation now
I mean it's good to be diverse in technology and I'm sure there's a purpose for EV's. But I don't want to be limited by them, nor by any computerized components. I want both
Amen.
If I can’t fix it, I don’t buy it. If car manufacturers wants to prevent me from repairing my own car, then they also prevent me from buying their new cars.
I was just saying patriots need to open car factory that only manufacture cars without computer chips. Many would buy it.
Absolutely!
^^^THIS!!!^^^
You said it! I believe that.
I drive a 25 year old car. Change my own oil, other fluids. filters, etc., and rotate my own tires.
I have a great, patriotic "country" mechanic for the stuff that requires a lift or better dexterity than I have.
209,000 miles and I will keep driving it as long as possible.
Dwell meters, feeler gauges and mechanical timing.
Old School!!!
That's the thing, those cars last a lot longer than the new ones. I would keep it.
If I could own a car, I wouldn't mind having a classic like a 1963 Volkswagon beetle.
Hope you don't like heat in the winter! 😄
That's going to be hard to find. Many people like Volks.
Treat them right, give them the love they deserve, and you'll get home together every time.
Amen to the treat them right.
I want my '63 Falcon back.
I want my '73 Dodge Charger back! 😭
I thought that was you that just blew by me.
🏁🏎💨 Vroom, vroooom! 😉😄
LOL
What company is Falcon? I don't think I know.
Ford Falcon. Small lightweight car; big engine. Lots of go.
Ford
Oh ok. thanks.
They live and breathe on old episodes of Jack Webb's Dragnet! "Just the facts, ma'am. "
LOL. I have never seen those. Too young for that era.
We live on old shows; the current ones suck, and kids should not distain black and white media. Good be surprised at the maturity and depth of some of the movies and shows, written back when there was no requirement to expose the entire plot to the audience explicitly. You had to actively watch, not passively vegetate. The detective spots a piece of evidence but doesn't tell you what it means, you have to put things together.
And if you've never watched a Nick and Nora movie, the rapid witty dialogue will blow you away as you try to keep up with that pair of alkies and the plot at the same time. Was it Dragnet that dealt with returning vets who could not fit back into society easily? With city youth being enticed into drugs and gangs? They were not preachy about things, though, they were very pragmatic.
Thanks. I will watch old show.
the way the new car tech is going, I don't think it's smart to get anything newer than what, 2015? 2016?
2021/2022 and beyond is the era to avoid.
Seen some silly comments here.
Computers don’t make cars unrepairable by common man, you just need to be 10% smarter. YouTube videos (and one day Rumble) give great insight on how to fix these computer issues. Except flashing a computer which any auto shop can flash for ~$100 (1 hour labor). This is very rare occurrence anyways. Most parts are plug and play.
The benefit of a computer is unbelievable. Changes in on the fly timing/ fuel injection amount, direct fuel injection, etc. And sure some of these things can be done without computers, but it becomes more mechanically complex where less people are knowledgeable in your build and now your locked into seeing one mechanic, etc.
The reason I say 2021 / 2022 is because they have engine control via app. The app is owned by the parent company. Insert man having issues with his Amazon smart home because of alleged racism. Now your car company can shut your car down. (True of all Teslas but I digress). That’s the scariest thing to me. Imagine not being able to drive to work and anyone who gives you a lift loses car privileges. Suddenly your circle of friends shrink, you lose your job, then you lose all of your personal possessions. Vehicular transportation is key to a job which is key to livelihood for almost every person. May God smite the faggots who seek to do this kind of harm to people if patriots fail.
I will keep that in mind. I am not techy in vehicles.
That’s not how computers operate in most cars 2020 and earlier. Most cars don’t have remote access to computer components. Computers just run data and flip switches, 1’s and 0’s. The hacking comes in to play with app controlled computers where some other person is the owner of data flow to your computer
My friend had a silver '67 GTO! Beautiful car he named Quicksilver. Holley Quadrojet on a big block 450? 455?. Hurst T-bar.One day, he slammed it in reverse and punched it. Transmission dropped onto the ground.....
Lol, trans noped out of there... Most have made a really interesting sound!
All I heard was the crying.
Ouch.
Some patriots should come up with designing vehicles without computer. We can make a killing here. A lot of people can fix vehicles.
Been wrenching 40.of my 45 years on this rock. They can suck my motherfuckin ass! Nobody touches my cars but me!
Good for you. Amen to that.
For someone who cannot repair things I understand, but I know many who can and to have gov saying you are not allowed, that's crap.
Some one with the means and skills should create a simple computer to install in these new cars that jail breaks and dominates every component to put the vehicle back in the owners hand. A diagnostic feature would be a bonus too.
Oh. That's a superb idea. I would buy one right away.
Careful of that. A lot of scammers use that hope for obd 2 plus n play (claims of increased fuel mileage or power).
Unless you are physically removing and replacing a component, do not expect positive improvement.
Oh I remember that. I didn't fall for that. Thanks. Fren.
I OWN my car I own everything from the tires to the paint on the roof, front bumper to rear bumper
If I wanna make it a animal shelter on my property, my business If I want to grow tomatoes in it, my business If I want to hack, rebuild or melt it down to build my own firearms; my business It’s not a hard concept
My just got damaged by hailstorm.
Hackers that open source their code on sourceforge so you can get heated seats without a subscription would be great!
No. I don't want anything like that. Thanks.
Good grief. Theater of the absurd.
LOL. I know right.
My dad had 4 cars in his entire 73 years. 2 were gone from a deer and a T bone. Not one of them ever went to a shop for repair.
Wow. That's fantastic. No plan obsolete there.
The truck that carried the men into the fields and the canvas water "bottle" was from the 1930's. You could see the ground through the holes rubbed into the floors from use The truck i used as a teenager also had holes in the floorboards. My parents went through the depression. Nothing got thrown away. Not string, not rubber bands and not car parts or nuts and bolts
😅 Mine, too. Almost every drawer was a junk drawer! But, sort of organized as each had it's own particular category of 'junk'.
We might need those skills, and items soon.
Yes but I really doubt how many can fix a toaster. When my dad died there was an old Frigidaire in the garage. Still worked. In 1978 that frig was at least 50 years old. I am proud if a $4000 frig lasts 10 years.
I remember "Made in the U.S.A" was the rage. Stanley Tool was the standard. You have a set of Stanley, do not get rid of it. It lasts forever.
Just like you said, Frigidaire. I have a freezer from my mom, it has been here for 18 years now but she had it for over 20+ before that. The newer ones, last me ten years.
I remember when all the stuff were made in Taiwan before. They all broke down in less than a year.
The Magnuson-Moss Act prevents manufacturers from voiding a warranty unless OEM parts are used at an OEM facility.
The hackers being the CeyeA & EffBeye
LOL. We know.
You should try a big truck. $200 an hour labor rate. If it has a fault they call it a code. It is $200 per code . If the abs has a problem it will effect 2 others systems. That is $600 just to hook the computer to it and for them to tell you the truck has 3 codes. Then they print out the diagnostic recommendations. That's a step by step instructions book (usually 15 to 30 pages) which they will follow exactly until they find the problem. If the mechanic can't find the problem then the truck will have to go to the main shop. At this point you are $600 for 3 codes and probably about 4-5 hours into it. That is about $1500 and they haven't fixed a damn thing.
And yet with tech, many of those big truck still manage 500k to a million miles before significant mechanical issues. Software will autocorrect a wide variation before things have to be fixed or replaced
People love reliability, low maintenance costs and great mpg. Those didn’t just happen. Gas metering, multiple sparks per detonation, O2 sensor banks, atmospheric pressure, altitude, humidify, barometric prettier, temperature differentials, and literally hundreds of other variables are all calculated
Pick up a $30 Bluetooth OBD meter and plug it on and pull down what your vehicle is analyzing. Automotive Engineers aren’t at all similar today to what they were 20 years ago.
The "diagnostic suite" for freightliner will cost you $5000 to $10000. That contains the program that is loaded onto a laptop and cables to connect to the truck. This is not cost effective when you own one truck. The real problem with buying this set up is that you must be a licensed shop registered with freightliner to get updates to the program. Updates come out about once a month, so after a month your program is not up to date. It would still work but for how long. Something else to look at. Some codes will cause the engine to "derate". Most derates MUST be cleared by freightliner and ONLY freightliner. Great fuel mileage? I have been a truck driver for 38 years. When I started companies were trying to get 6 mpg, now companies are happy with 7 mpg. The exhaust "regeneration " system is the main reason for low mpg now and 70% of trucks awaiting shop are there for regeneration problems. And the shops are full, 2 week to 2 month wait to get a truck in the main shop. Not a supply chain issue. Just that many trucks that are broke. Been that way since 2008 when the EPA mandated regeneration systems.
Do not disagree with a single word.
I am not a semi driver. No CDL. Not a mechanic (shade tree certified). I am an Electrical Engineer and apparently good at what I do. I understand intricate things. It’s what I do
A single owner situation may not be ideal for this application. Most complexities are “fits most cases; but not all”. EV cars will be better in most cases for a lot of people; but not everyone, everywhere in every situation for awhile
Going from 6mpg to 7mpg is 17% increase. That’s very significant. Industry wide; it’s a game changer. More complicated, yes. For large corporations this is everything. For a smaller operation- more difficult to say. Too many variables.
Consider how your industry has changed in the last few decades. Cell phones, GPS, traffic routing, financials, load management and routing.
What worked when we were young; would get crushed in todays world
The improvement in engine electronics is good. I still think to many moving parts and to many sensors. My main problem is with the exhaust regeneration system and egr. I know owners that have deleted these systems and their mpg goes up to 9 mpg, and they run theirs trucks hard. They are not worried about fuel mileage. Back to the original post. Right to repair. When it comes to repairing engines, parts MUST be bought from a freightliner dealer or licensed retailer and to clear failure codes it must be hooked to a freightliner computer or it won't run. This is what I have seen over the years. Everytime an engine manufacturer comes up with something that improves mpg the EPA puts another restriction on the exhaust or fuel that lowers mpg. 17% improvement in 38 years is not a big improvement to me. These trucks should be getting 20 mpg.
No question on the right to repair. Regarding regeneration of hydrocarbons, absolutely agree. Most hydrocarbons that don’t burn the first time, won’t burn the second. Energy spent is negative.
But net emissions “we are told” go down. Color me dubious on that claim
I would HOPE parts for Freightliner are compatible instead of monopoly. I am planning on buying a Renegade RV when I retire, and being built on the Freightliner chassis is a big selling point.
TN tech took 5 gliders and 5 regeneration trucks and tested emissions on them. Gliders had rebuilt Detroit series 60 engines and the new trucks had DD 15 Detroit's. The DD series is actually a Mercedes engine. The gliders had no egr or regeneration systems. The emissions from the gliders was less than the regeneration trucks in all aspects. As far as the motor home, all the same built in Mexico. All systems will tie together (1 system goes down it effects 2 other system). Find you freightliner dealer and just drive by every now and then and see if there are RV's there. Also warranty isn't worth the paper it is written on. They will fight a warranty claim all the way. Basically if it goes to the shop warranty won't cover everything.
Sorry, not familiar with the term 'gliders", not my area. Don't really expect to see a whole lot of RV's in those dealerships, for a few reasons. Statistically speaking - very few SuperC RV's on the road, as most are Buses' The buses are more $$$ (significantly more), but the SuperC's make far more sense engineering-wise.
No RV is going to put anywhere near the mileage as a trucker does. For the RV class, this is as industrial and heavy-duty construction as you can get. It will see maybe 300-500 miles a day, for a few weeks a year. Florida for the winter, up to see the grandkids and some trips during the summer. Exploring for a few months. I can get routine service at any place that services Freightliner. By the time I need any real work, I'll likely be trading up. Been a Design Engineer most of my life, working R&D and Space last few decades (you have likely seen my work on TV), and working Lithium recovery on the side. Lithium batteries are the future; we aren't there yet, but there has been more development in battery technology in the last 20 years than in the last 150 years combined. I think we have the lifetime answer in the lab, but it's still a bit of work to get it ready for mass production. The "Lifetime answer" is a solid-state battery technology that will go from 0-80% charge in under 10 minutes, has more than 10,000 duty cycles before it drops from 100% capacity to 90% capacity, can be cut or penetrated without degradation cascading failure, has a temperature range of -50 to 250F, and an indefinite storage life. It's one thing to make a dozen in a lab; it's another to make a few million in mass production. But, we may be there in less than 8 years at this rate of progress.
Oh my Christ. What a *f world.