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BREAKING: 🇷🇺 Russia calls on the IDF to release satellite images to prove it did not fire missile at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by Ehjax78 2 years ago by Ehjax78 +218 / -0
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– Apple-Bag 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

a home built water pipe rocket did that damage, no frigen way

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– frogface PRO 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Unless that hospital was a weapons storage, full of explosives. Hamas does this.

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– Tewdryg 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Ron Paul provided evidence in Congress that Hamas was created by Israeli Intelligence. To me, it is pretty obvious that this entire operation was planned by Israel and the Mossad operated Hamas. The open borders and all the outrageous breeches of Israel's border is a script that could have been written by Hollywood. IMHO, this is an orchestrated FF event. Hamas can be compared in the same type of contrived event as the Michigan Governor Whitmer FBI operation. This is much bigger and radicalized. Just like ISIS, it is all under the control of Israeli Intelligence. The real fact that the Masonic-Zionists running Israel have no issue with sacrificing Israeli citizens lives as long as they can advance their goal of land grabbing is well documented.

Brownfeld cites the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who had started to make peace with the Palestinians, writing that it was just one “in a long line of murders of Jews who followed a path different from that ordained by rabbinic authorities.” Brownfeld reports that Shahak and Mezvinsky “cite case after case, from the Middle Ages until the 19th century.” The authors report, “It was usual in some Hasidic circles until the last quarter of the nineteenth century to attack and often to murder Jews who had reform religious tendencies…”

Most of the Israeli citizens are non-practicing Jews and are for peace. This makes them a target for Masonic-Zionist goals.

Israeli military manuals echo extremist teachings: “kill even good civilians” Israeli military manuals sometimes replicate extremist teachings. For example, a booklet authored by a Chief Chaplain stated, “In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians…” Such teachings by the IDF rabbinate were prominent during Israel’s 2008-9 attack on Gaza that killed 1,400 Gazans, approximately half of them civilians. (The Palestinian resistance killed nine Israelis during this “war.”)

Chicago writer Stephen Lendman has described these teachings, giving a number of examples.

Lendman writes, “In 2007, Israel’s former chief rabbi, Mordechai Elyahu, called for the Israeli army to mass-murder Palestinians: “If they don’t stop after we kill 100, then we must kill 1000. And if they don’t stop after 1000, then we must kill 10,000. If they still don’t stop we must kill 100,000. Even a million.”

Then there is this. The author of the following quote, Juan Cole, in an article for Informed Comment:

"But for the more aggressive in the extremists’ ranks, of whom there is no shortage, the belief is that the Palestinians will be “vomited out” of the land. Indeed, for the most zealous, it is a mitzva, or good deed, to kill such people. The notion of attaining genuine peace with the Palestinians, a peace that would entail ceding land they believe God gave to the Jews in his covenant with the Jewish people, is not just scorned, it is seen as sacrilegious.

The extremists’ attitudes towards fellow Jewish citizens of Israel who are secular-minded and peace-oriented are no less loathsome. Many of them hold that efforts by any Israeli government to force Jews to withdraw from West Bank settlements are to be combated, including, if need be, by civil war. The increasing frequency of “price tag” operations, violent acts targeting Jewish Israeli citizens and Israeli military personnel perceived as blocking the extremists’ path, serves as a stark reminder of this threat."

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– Qtoad 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

…So if the IDF did it;

Israel is responsible.

But if [ Mossad-created ]-Hamas did it;

Israel is responsible.

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– smartbaum 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Pretty much, its an open question of direct responsibility vs proxy responsibility.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

IMHO, The thing we have to remember is this region of the world is a hornet's nest having many, many layers of dynamics (ethnic, cultural, religious, historical, etc.). As did the British before him with the King David hotel bombing, Ronald Reagan learned his lesson after 241 marines were killed in the Beirut bombing. I recall Reagan accepting the blame and saying we Americans don't understand the deep rooted dynamics in that part of the world. He's right. There's layers on top of layers of false fronts and proxies.

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– Bostonstronk 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

basically the evidence that Israel created Hamas to counter the PLO is incontrovertible. just like the fact the US created bin laden and the mujahadeen who became Al Qaeda. the only question during events like this is did they "lose control of their asset" or was the asset still following orders when they instigated this

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– Tewdryg 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

That's a very good question. We also know that ISIS was created by Israel's Intelligence Service and supported by Anglo-American Intelligence. There's plenty of information on the Internet confirming it. Remember John McCain getting his photo taken with Al-Baghdadi? Edward Snowden revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the ex-EIIL or Islamic State Iraq and the Levant, according to Iranian news agency Farsnews. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called “Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative.

In answering your question, pointing out that ISIS has never threatened or attacked Israel speaks volumes on who controls ISIS to this very day. That has always puzzled me until Snowden revealed who controls ISIS. It was an 'Ah-ha' moment. With Hamas it's just another play on this. My guess is since Gaza and the West Bank are planned to be annexed by Israel, a militant Hamas is needed for the justification. When Israel turns its attention on Syria and Iraq, it will be ISIS being the justification.

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– smartbaum 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Scott Ritter's write up on substack mentions what he was told by an Israeli in the know, note the last line of first paragraph:

Hamas had committed numerous atrocities against the Israeli people during my time in Israel. I saw them as the enemy of Israel, and now I was being told that Israel had a hand in the creation of Hamas. The intent, my host told me, was to create a political divide within the Palestinian political leadership, and to dilute the power and influence of Yassar Arafat’s Fatah organization. In this, they had apparently succeeded.** But the violent response of Hamas to the Oslo Accords had caused Israel to rethink this relationship, and soon Israel was in open war with its creation.**

I was prepared to write off the Israeli-Hamas nexus as a political experiment gone bad when, in 2006, it looked like Israel had forgiven Hamas its violent past, working to create the conditions that helped Hamas secure a majority of the seats in the Palestinian Parliament. By 2007, however, the poor relations between Hamas and Fatah had broken down further, leading to a civil war between the two factions that led to the split of the Palestinian entity into two halves—one, led by Fatah, was located on the West Bank, while the other, led by Hamas, operated in Gaza.

It later came out that this internecine conflict between Palestinians had been orchestrated by Israel to split the Palestinian political body, weakening it while providing Israel with the opportunity to improve relations with Fatah under the grounds that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Over the course of the next decade and a half, I watched as Israel leveraged its control over Fatah, and its animosity toward Hamas, into a cycle of never-ending violence which always ended up with the Palestinian cause making more compromises which resulted in more lost territory—and more lost lives.

Above quote from https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel

My current view is that Israel doesn't have nearly as much control with Hamas in recent years, except to provide opportunities for their extremist actions. And before Oct 7 Israel DID do things to all but knowingly provoke Hamas into an event that would serve in turn as pretext for IDF to "mow the lawn" in Gaza as they call it. But it is most likely they underestimated the extent of damage Hamas was able to accomplish in the window given. I am not convinced the Israeli gov't / intelligence planned for what actually happened in Israel, due to the totally forseeable public reaction against the Israeli gov't and calls for Netanyahu's removal, etc. Its one thing to provoke Hamas, but to provoke the Israeli public into distrust and feelings of betrayal would not be in their playbook.

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– 1baldeagle 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Thanks for your post. Well done.

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– CabalBot 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

This is how 1984 begins - missiles are thrown and every nation blames another but no one really knows who really threw it.

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– Tynyyn 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

So Hamas tossed a rocket towards Israel and somehow it malfunctioned and somehow hit a hospital. What are the odds that could happen? Think about that for a second. A non aimable rocket, "shoot and pray it hits something", is launched, then something within it caused it to break up in flight and then somehow it lands on top of a hospital filled to the gills with hurt individuals, and then it explodes and causes massive human damage. Now look at some of the visual reports that are on the interwebs of Hamas rockets that have struck inside of Israel. A five foot hole in the ground and a damaged car next to the hole. How can one of these rockets blast apart a hospital? Something is not adding up here. Either Israel sent a bomb into that hospital or a Hamas bomb blew up underneath it. I'm thinking it was the fault of Hamas. They don't do too well when handling munitions.

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– ILoveIvermectin 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Improvised explosives don’t take down buildings. OKC Federal building enters the chat.

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– suleo 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Yea, instead you need to fly a plane to the 90th floor :P

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– Tassie 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

First time I have ever seen "transparency" like this below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zulx1UJTOU

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– Tynyyn 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Interesting and well presented. I wonder if Hamas has an outlet that is espousing their point of view on this situation. Thanks, Tassie. I appreicate your YT link.

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– kwyet 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It is a very slick presentation. No doubt about that.

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– Tassie 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Do you get that feeling you are being sold a car.

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– CheekyHawk 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The explanation from the “state owned media” is that the Gazadonians have packed all of their hospitals and schools to the brim with high explosives to protect them from the good natured Israelis. I actually don’t care, I accidentally read that, and it sounded like propo.

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– ColludingWithAmerica 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Look into Robert Goddard and his experiments that led to modern rocketry. There are many things that can go wrong with rocketry. Not trying to take away from your comments but rockets can do some wild stuff if instrumentation is not good/missing/broken.

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– FreeSpeechAnon 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The Greatest Story Never Told. History is written by the victors.

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– CaptainChaos345 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Don't hold your breath Mr. Putin...

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– CasuallyObservant 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I love it! Force them to prove it.

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– uk-thinker 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Why call on IDF every major country will have satellite eyes on - why is everyone silent?

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– Tewdryg 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

It appears to me that Russia is sending a message for them to come clean and may be saying we have evidence that you did it.

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– Fefifofumdrum 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I'd be interested to see this. I'd also be interested to see what Hamas has been hiding in those tunnels under schools and hospitals and civilian's homes. đź‘€

It's a little rich that Russia is asking, but that's a separate thing.

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– Rumsfeld 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Damn Russians

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– frogface PRO 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

How can they provide an image of themselves not doing something ?

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– QuackQuack 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Probably because they have non stop satellite coverage of the entire area. It’s an active war zone and they’re freaks for intelligence. Guaranteed they have the footage.

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– Qtoad 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Checkmate.

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– Archon69 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Why can't Russia simply release their satellite images? Problem solved.

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– WeAreThePlan 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This is getting interesting.

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– lsvogel 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Last night I watched a news video of IDF official that said they have proof it was an Islamic terrorist group in GAZA that fired the missile. The missile was defective and ended up miss firing & bombed the hospital. He said they have intel proof, video and audio of the terrorists talking that the missile miss-fired & blew up the hospital. The Military official said the IDF will release the intel info when they have authority/approval to do so.

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– Hotcrackpipe 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It's released

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– EDC1745 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

people should realize it isn't "Israel" that is doing it... it's the Masonic/Zionist/Puppeteers assigned to the state of Israel, that is behind all of this. The Masonic CIA/MOSSAD/5ive Eyes intel agencies who have created & funded these terrorist groups to play nations against each other.

their goal is to get people from all sides FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER & not the ones actually responsible. this has gone on for millennias.

think of it like this... you know how when peaceful protestors begin exercising their rights to protest & free speech, then there is always a rogue group of extremists that nobody knows, that incites anger & violence, which causes the whole thing to be shut down? that's what is going on.

these globalists create groups, dress them up as one group or another, then have them carry out attacks & false flags, to which the MSM pushes a false narrative against an entire group of people.

wolves in sheeps clothing

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– Ehjax78 [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Very good summery!

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– Chachiex 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If they refuse get ready for the new face of Sunni Islam.

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