He is lucky they didn't shoot his dog. That's ridiculous all the way around. It seems to be because he cleaned off neighbors driveways. Maybe some piece of shit karen called him in. You can see a guy driving a quad down the road with snow removal equipment during the confrontation so clearly the whole street was in the process of snow removal. What a giant waste of everyone's time and resources.
It was either ticket shovelers or go shelter inside some building while angry Hamas/Palestine protestors threaten your life……..easy choice for pussies.
thx, skipped around while watching, missed that. it's a ridiculous ticket, but there must be some kind of history with the neighbors. Woild love to know the whole story.
DontAsk 2 point 4 hours ago +2 / -0
OK, I went to the original post. They said a DPW employee reported him for plowing the snow into the street. Apparently in Norwalk CT it's a big no-no to put snow or grass clippings into the street.
OK, I went to the original post. They said a DPW employee reported him for plowing the snow into the street. Apparently in Norwalk CT it's a big no-no to put snow or grass clippings into the street.
That's why many cities and towns have ordinances/laws against blowing/raking/shoveling anything into the street. This guy sounds old enough to know this and is being an ass.
So, did he blow a bunch of snow from his and his neighbor's driveway and sidewalk into the street instead of back into their individual lawns? If so, they should have made him blow the snow off the street and back into his yard. Solved!
For this to have escalated by both parties is frustrating. He also did not need to be an asshole about it. Such a waste of effort with no satisfying resolution.
Problem is anti-social behavior in policing. I know there are many good cops out there, but I think instead of calling for the people to" Back the blue", they should be returning that with a counter movement: "Blue back the people". They are also a part of the people. You see many do this, particularly sheriffs. The problem is the brotherhood attitude. This allows abuses to go unpunished, there is social pressure within departments and constabularies, to protect someone who makes a practice of aggressive, anti-social policing. You should never lie about law, or misrepresent law, or be angry at a counter-argument that exposes your mistake as an officer. The idea that you can't be wrong, especially when you have some power over the person confronting you, is in my opinion, the a solid indicator of social dysfunction in an individual. We're all guilty of this stuff. You might think someone is a moron, so why are they telling me X!? The key problem is when you think that about EVERYONE else. The reason lawyers exist is to make a practice of laws, the same is true of judges. The police often get it wrong, and most often, it's because it's a bullheaded and anger filled police officer doing it. These are the last people you want in a position of power.
We should never be in the position that we don't trust our police forces, but we are, and that's because we have eyes to see, and have most of us, at least once, interacted with an unprofessional, perhaps even abusive officer. Antisocial behavior should have no place in a police department.
In order to be trustworthy, police have to remove abusive, unprofessional, and aggressive police; people will continue to notice, and be unsupportive. It's oppressive to the people, particularly to the poor, whom the Lord God has instructed us NOT to oppress.
Good cops out there, I'm ex-mil and I understand the social pressure, but I hope you will hear my words and adopt this viewpoint. If you rid yourselves of these guys; create systems designed to weed out these guys and you will have incredible support from the people. An upright man will enjoy serious support.
Nice BS rant, but what has this to do with an asshole breaking an ordinance banning the raking, shoveling, blowing grass, leaves, clippings, snow into the street?
I didn't think that Derek Chauvin was a bad cop. I think he was very lightly and gingerly kneeling on the small of Floyd's back, and I think Floyd died to drugs in his system.
I do think a larger percentage than many police officers would like to admit, of LEOs are abusive, not only to persons whom they are policing, but also to family members.
In this situation. I really don't think breaking an ordinance warrants police involvement. I don't think the police should be called for an ordinance violation. If were being real here: Ordinances can be good, or they can be nanny laws that people with a lot of time on their hands use to be anti-social, un-neighborly with others. Sometimes they are necessary, other times, they are baloney. Let his HOA fine him, for what reason does an LEO need to come there, other than to collect a bounty for the township?
The problem with a ton of these laws is they are often petty tyranny.
I feel like a lot of people say "I want to live in a great society again" but that great society is a place where people cared about each other too. Christian men and women made society great. Grown men didn't worry about where grass clippings were, or where snow, that melts, is sitting.
I am a biker. I my bike is a 1977 BMW R100 (Standard/Classic). I previously rode a 2009 Yamaha R6S (Sport bike), and previous to that I had a 2012 Ninja 250, and a 2001 Honda Shadow ACE (Cruiser).
This argument doesn't hold water; we look out for the exactly these scenarios for exactly this reason. More people fall due to sand, gravel, and oil than grass clippings.
Grown men should be smart enough to know what happens when you block the drains in the streets. The streets should not be used for trash disposal.
Don't take your frustration out on the cops from unnecessary ordinances. Take it out on the city and town councils. Why is this so difficult to understand? Cops don't write the law; cops enforce the law. It's in the Constitution. Legislative, Executive, Judicial.
This is HOA level stuff...I think at the end of the day, one who makes a practice of judging stuff like this should hope that one is never caught lacking, or that one's mistakes are not seen or judged. How many people have no care to speed, but what of a person who thinks himself moral and superior for not speeding? Can he not dial the phone and get the police involved too?
How many people violate a smoking ban on the sidewalk; should we call the police to arrest these clearly evil and morally repugnant people?
What about my personal most irritating pet peeve: Late or un-used turn signals? Find them, Boil them, Tar and Feathers! Jail! /s. Obvious tongue-in-cheek humor aside; we're all guilty.
I think you know a lot of these ordinances are bunk, and I think you know there is a difference between morality and lawful too. People break ordinances, I think you break laws and ordinances constantly, and I think you dislike certain laws too.
The question becomes; should you be judged by the same measure you mete out against another? These words are not mine, they are of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
The problem of practicing judgement like that is that you and I aren't perfect judges. God is; we usurp God's authority as a righteous judge at our own peril, for we will be judged by the same measure as we mete out against another.
IMO: Police have too broad a set of powers, and misconduct is widespread, and not uncommon, so much so that cameras didn't reduce the occurrences of it. You can think about it how you will. I don't think of LEOs as my friend, and as a veteran, I don't think of the military as that either.
“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”
― Aldous Huxley
I'm just not going to advocate that police arrest people over non-violent offenses and victimless crimes.
You've sped your entire life, you've changed lanes without indicating, you've passed on the right. You've left your garbage out, you've littered, and been a pest and broken many ordinances; every one does.
Don't be so quick to condemn someone. Going to jail for an ordinance, victimless, non-violent, non-threatening "crime" is overreach, because the police officer's ego wasn't able to take free speech.
I get it. It's easy and safe to blame the cops for doing what they were hired to do: enforcing ordinances/laws created by the local council, your representatives. Now, if you are being real, then why not take the effort to petition the council to remove the ordinance?
While the council, I guess, could have given the consequence of confinement, it is more likely a fine, then perhaps confinement if there is refusal to pay the fine. Cops are not required to take this bs abuse. I'm not condemning him for breaking an ordinance. As you said, we all do at one time or another. It is his behavior at being called out by a neighbor that is obtuse.
Chances are if he had accepted the citation and decided to go to court in lieu of paying the fine, the judge would have let him off with a warning to learn to use his snowblower correctly.
More and more convinced the back the blue initiative was a ploy for the good people to support Leo no matter what. We got duped. The only thing keeping the tyrants in power and protected is Leo who commit treason like this.
He is lucky they didn't shoot his dog. That's ridiculous all the way around. It seems to be because he cleaned off neighbors driveways. Maybe some piece of shit karen called him in. You can see a guy driving a quad down the road with snow removal equipment during the confrontation so clearly the whole street was in the process of snow removal. What a giant waste of everyone's time and resources.
Yeah I expected the gaystapo to shoot the dog
Just want to make it clear that I am stealing "gaystapo" from you.
It's okay, I stole it from someone else here haha
It was either ticket shovelers or go shelter inside some building while angry Hamas/Palestine protestors threaten your life……..easy choice for pussies.
when was this? why are all the cops in masks?
Also, the neighbor must have called them, why would the neighbor not want his driveeay plowed for free?
The cop says April 6, 2021
thx, skipped around while watching, missed that. it's a ridiculous ticket, but there must be some kind of history with the neighbors. Woild love to know the whole story.
It was near the beginning. I had to replay the section a few times to hear the year.
I was hoping to hear why he was reported.
DontAsk 2 point 4 hours ago +2 / -0 OK, I went to the original post. They said a DPW employee reported him for plowing the snow into the street. Apparently in Norwalk CT it's a big no-no to put snow or grass clippings into the street.
OK, I went to the original post. They said a DPW employee reported him for plowing the snow into the street. Apparently in Norwalk CT it's a big no-no to put snow or grass clippings into the street.
ok so he did it wrong. was probably a minor ticket, then arrested since he wouldnt sign it.
I hate people that blow their grass into the street...if it rains it becomes like glass..same w snow keep it off the road
That's why many cities and towns have ordinances/laws against blowing/raking/shoveling anything into the street. This guy sounds old enough to know this and is being an ass.
Harder to ID a cop in a video when wearing a mask.
There are still people on this site who make excuses for police.
They're called "Cop-suckers"
So what ended up happening?
So, did he blow a bunch of snow from his and his neighbor's driveway and sidewalk into the street instead of back into their individual lawns? If so, they should have made him blow the snow off the street and back into his yard. Solved!
For this to have escalated by both parties is frustrating. He also did not need to be an asshole about it. Such a waste of effort with no satisfying resolution.
Well doing that around here is illegal by city code So they don't have to give you that option.
Ok. But, if that would have solved it and taught the man to do right next time, might have been nice.
You cops are complete fools. Sick of this shit. Former LE. Wtf dumb asses. And their stupid mask. Idiots
Problem is anti-social behavior in policing. I know there are many good cops out there, but I think instead of calling for the people to" Back the blue", they should be returning that with a counter movement: "Blue back the people". They are also a part of the people. You see many do this, particularly sheriffs. The problem is the brotherhood attitude. This allows abuses to go unpunished, there is social pressure within departments and constabularies, to protect someone who makes a practice of aggressive, anti-social policing. You should never lie about law, or misrepresent law, or be angry at a counter-argument that exposes your mistake as an officer. The idea that you can't be wrong, especially when you have some power over the person confronting you, is in my opinion, the a solid indicator of social dysfunction in an individual. We're all guilty of this stuff. You might think someone is a moron, so why are they telling me X!? The key problem is when you think that about EVERYONE else. The reason lawyers exist is to make a practice of laws, the same is true of judges. The police often get it wrong, and most often, it's because it's a bullheaded and anger filled police officer doing it. These are the last people you want in a position of power.
We should never be in the position that we don't trust our police forces, but we are, and that's because we have eyes to see, and have most of us, at least once, interacted with an unprofessional, perhaps even abusive officer. Antisocial behavior should have no place in a police department.
In order to be trustworthy, police have to remove abusive, unprofessional, and aggressive police; people will continue to notice, and be unsupportive. It's oppressive to the people, particularly to the poor, whom the Lord God has instructed us NOT to oppress.
Good cops out there, I'm ex-mil and I understand the social pressure, but I hope you will hear my words and adopt this viewpoint. If you rid yourselves of these guys; create systems designed to weed out these guys and you will have incredible support from the people. An upright man will enjoy serious support.
Nice BS rant, but what has this to do with an asshole breaking an ordinance banning the raking, shoveling, blowing grass, leaves, clippings, snow into the street?
Let me make an example.
I didn't think that Derek Chauvin was a bad cop. I think he was very lightly and gingerly kneeling on the small of Floyd's back, and I think Floyd died to drugs in his system.
I do think a larger percentage than many police officers would like to admit, of LEOs are abusive, not only to persons whom they are policing, but also to family members.
In this situation. I really don't think breaking an ordinance warrants police involvement. I don't think the police should be called for an ordinance violation. If were being real here: Ordinances can be good, or they can be nanny laws that people with a lot of time on their hands use to be anti-social, un-neighborly with others. Sometimes they are necessary, other times, they are baloney. Let his HOA fine him, for what reason does an LEO need to come there, other than to collect a bounty for the township?
The problem with a ton of these laws is they are often petty tyranny.
I feel like a lot of people say "I want to live in a great society again" but that great society is a place where people cared about each other too. Christian men and women made society great. Grown men didn't worry about where grass clippings were, or where snow, that melts, is sitting.
Guess you have never heard of the 100's of bikers injured or killed each yr because some f%()waffle blew grass into the streets.
I am a biker. I my bike is a 1977 BMW R100 (Standard/Classic). I previously rode a 2009 Yamaha R6S (Sport bike), and previous to that I had a 2012 Ninja 250, and a 2001 Honda Shadow ACE (Cruiser).
This argument doesn't hold water; we look out for the exactly these scenarios for exactly this reason. More people fall due to sand, gravel, and oil than grass clippings.
Grown men should be smart enough to know what happens when you block the drains in the streets. The streets should not be used for trash disposal.
Don't take your frustration out on the cops from unnecessary ordinances. Take it out on the city and town councils. Why is this so difficult to understand? Cops don't write the law; cops enforce the law. It's in the Constitution. Legislative, Executive, Judicial.
This is HOA level stuff...I think at the end of the day, one who makes a practice of judging stuff like this should hope that one is never caught lacking, or that one's mistakes are not seen or judged. How many people have no care to speed, but what of a person who thinks himself moral and superior for not speeding? Can he not dial the phone and get the police involved too?
How many people violate a smoking ban on the sidewalk; should we call the police to arrest these clearly evil and morally repugnant people?
What about my personal most irritating pet peeve: Late or un-used turn signals? Find them, Boil them, Tar and Feathers! Jail! /s. Obvious tongue-in-cheek humor aside; we're all guilty.
I think you know a lot of these ordinances are bunk, and I think you know there is a difference between morality and lawful too. People break ordinances, I think you break laws and ordinances constantly, and I think you dislike certain laws too.
The question becomes; should you be judged by the same measure you mete out against another? These words are not mine, they are of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
The problem of practicing judgement like that is that you and I aren't perfect judges. God is; we usurp God's authority as a righteous judge at our own peril, for we will be judged by the same measure as we mete out against another.
IMO: Police have too broad a set of powers, and misconduct is widespread, and not uncommon, so much so that cameras didn't reduce the occurrences of it. You can think about it how you will. I don't think of LEOs as my friend, and as a veteran, I don't think of the military as that either.
“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” ― Aldous Huxley
Still not getting it or are you too afraid to place the blame where it belongs?
I'm just not going to advocate that police arrest people over non-violent offenses and victimless crimes.
You've sped your entire life, you've changed lanes without indicating, you've passed on the right. You've left your garbage out, you've littered, and been a pest and broken many ordinances; every one does.
Don't be so quick to condemn someone. Going to jail for an ordinance, victimless, non-violent, non-threatening "crime" is overreach, because the police officer's ego wasn't able to take free speech.
I get it. It's easy and safe to blame the cops for doing what they were hired to do: enforcing ordinances/laws created by the local council, your representatives. Now, if you are being real, then why not take the effort to petition the council to remove the ordinance?
While the council, I guess, could have given the consequence of confinement, it is more likely a fine, then perhaps confinement if there is refusal to pay the fine. Cops are not required to take this bs abuse. I'm not condemning him for breaking an ordinance. As you said, we all do at one time or another. It is his behavior at being called out by a neighbor that is obtuse.
Chances are if he had accepted the citation and decided to go to court in lieu of paying the fine, the judge would have let him off with a warning to learn to use his snowblower correctly.
More and more convinced the back the blue initiative was a ploy for the good people to support Leo no matter what. We got duped. The only thing keeping the tyrants in power and protected is Leo who commit treason like this.