English courts order Vatican to disclose sensitive emails in 'trial of the century'
The Vatican has been ordered by the English courts to reveal highly sensitive emails and texts between senior clerics despite claiming such disclosure would be a “grave sin.”
God Father III ?
Yes. All roads lead to rome. They have had 2000 years of practise at deceiving, polarising and distracting the world so that humanity dares not 'peek behind the curtain'. The entire Q operation is preparing the world to hear the true crimes of the vatican.
Just for one example, they were the only organisation powerful enough on earth to pull of the federal reserve heist. When they couldnt control people via religion anymore, they decided to just control all business and finance instead.
Infiltration instead of invasion.
Name one institution as old as the Roman Catholic Church.
You can't, because the people behind the curtain make sure to constantly rename all the organizations they control, as well as change their own names, so that no one can catch on to them, or at least they hope.
Evil is deceptive, it hides. The Roman Catholic Church does not hide.
"Name one institution as old as the Roman Catholic Church." --> Zoroastrianism is much older
So, a near dead religion that hardly has any organized presence, if any?
I wouldn't say this is one of the originations or institutions that the deep state use in their operations, would you?
And as such they aren't behind, or in front of, the curtain; they aren't even in the building.
Dead?? Our Jesus is still very much alive in the Holy Eucharist! He is our hope and our treasure. The Deep State Corrupt Government doesn’t make conservative Christians bad and the Deep State Church doesn’t make the Catholic Church dead. God we praise You and thank you for Your protection of Your bride.
I was referring to Zoroastrianism, not Jesus or the Catholic Church.
My original point was pretty much that the Church has lived for 2000 years, which is a compelling reason for me to believe there is Truth behind it. So certainly the Church is not dead, nor is our Lord ;)
Thanks for clarifying, I rarely reply unless I’m defending my faith. The Catholic Church is so misunderstood. I’m not cradle Catholic (became so about 35 yrs ago). When you choose the Catholic Church as an adult, there is usually a lot of research involved. There is a treasure of information about the history and saints lives. I told my Cradle Catholic Husband he missed a lot. God Bless!❤️
Our Lady of Fatima is an intriguing beautiful story that foretells all that we are seeing today. YouTube has two movies about it. There was a miracle done in the presence of 1000s of people to prove that the children were telling the truth.
I would be careful to be dismissive. This is the world's oldest "religion". Also, be aware that Wikipedia has a vested interest in presenting it as dead.
I'm not arguing against you; I'm building on your initial point:
Track it's symbolism, how it's evolved, what it's integrated with. Sure, the initial, rigid interpretation of it (as stated by Wikipedia) may look pretty dead/dated, but there's a strong case to be made that slithered through the millenia and is heavily intertwined with modern Free Masonry and Luciferianism / Satanism. This potentially could be the "Whore of Babylon" in Revelations.
Variants appear to me to have infiltrated most powerful organizations; including the Vatican.
I could also be totally crazy and am known for tilting with windmills...
:)
Yea, I suppose I missed your meaning.
Interesting thought. I wouldn't be surprised if all the false religions were just variations of the same lie. And Satan being the father of lies, every false religion might as well just be its own flavor of Satanism anyway. And maybe they all trace back to this one beginning. The opposite of the original Judaism, which became Christianity.
Maybe Zoroastrianism became Satanism in the same way. A kind of revealing of the full truth of the religion. The same way Christ revealed the full truth of Judaism.
Christianity and Satanism are the fulfillment of Judaism and Zoroastrianism, respectively.
Or something...
Or maybe I'm nuts too, I don't know...
kek
Is your claim that the RCC isn't evil because it doesn't hide? Want to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying here.
Not exclusively for that reason, but I certainly see it as supporting evidence due to the fact it's a somewhat unique trait for an institution when contrasted with all the deepstate institutions and organizations.
And to be clear, by "hide" I'm referring to the fact they have existed in present form for their entire, well, existence. Obviously, they "hide" certain things, as evidenced by the article this thread is about. But they don't hide themselves the way the deepstate does. They don't rename themselves every couple hundred years. They don't hide behind dozens of names to confuse anyone looking into them. They don't pretend to be some new group starting from the bottom. They simply remain the Roman Catholic Church, and always have.
To pose my own question(s). Does America's deepstate make America evil? If it does, is the solution to destroy our country and start a new one? Or to make every state its own country? Or is the solution to retake what is ours; to regain control of our country from the evil to put it back in the hands of the righteous patriots?
I think we should do the latter, and I think we should do it with the Church too.
The establishment of Islam does not hide neither. It does not change its name nor identity. You can't bring up different sects or followers of doctrine either because the Christian church is just as fragmented. But this fact that it doesn't hide its surface identity proves nothing of its merrit, nor does it absolve it of any of its sins.
It proves nothing alone, yes. That's why it's only supporting evidence, as I said.
Also, Islam is very clearly fake and gay, and clearly not of God. 2000 years of Catholics, the vast majority being good and upright people, is not the same. We can easily tell Islam is false, but with the RCC, there is a claim that they are the one true Church, and there is certainly evidence in favor of this, of which the Church still existing is but one piece for me.
So the fruits of the Church are generally good, while the fruits of Islam are generally bad. So I don't think they are really comparable as it relates to my point.
And the RCC is not fragmented. Just because people have fallen away from the Church and changed up doctrine, doesn't make it so.
Further, people splitting from the Church neither disproves it nor proves it, any more than a Protestant becoming a Catholic empirically proves anything.
And none are absolved of their sins but through the Grace of God. That's hardly an argument against the claims of the Church.
The Roman catholic church hides very very much. Way deep in its archives. Its like the Smithsonian on steroids. To fully awaken you must begin to question everything you were born and raised to believe. No stone unturned. There is much darkness hidden deep in the veils of the Catholic church. You just have to open your eyes and be willing to actually look.
I did; I became a Catholic after first becoming a Protestant.
In fact, I thought I had my eyes open, but now I believe they were covered by scales. Scales which melted away miraculously after reading a compelling argument in favor of the Church. Everything else clicked in from there.
As for the things they hide, I don't like it, and I pray God reveals that which is hidden when He deems it time to do so, but that hardly discounts the Church entirely. No man is sinless. The Church can be Christ's even if the individual members that make it up are sinful Men.
And to be clear, my point on "hiding" was related to their presentation of themselves. Obviously there are secrets, as the very article above shows, but they present themselves as the Holy Roman Catholic Church. They don't use 100 different names and hide in the shadows. And they are constantly attacked by the ones that do.
So while there are secrets, their doctrines, their claims, and their very name is not one of them. Meanwhile, the powers and principalities of our world change names like clothes, whether their personal names or the names of the organizations and secret societies they control.
Some other organization set up church. Correct.
It was started by an individual.
The individual was Jesus Christ.
The infiltration attempts over the last 2000 years have thus far failed, with this current one being the closest Satan has gotten.
There is no "other organization" when it relates to the Church, there is simply the Church that has existed in the same form for 2000 years.
If anything else were true, it's my claim that there wouldn't be a 2000-year-old Church. There'd be some nonsense that's 200–300 years old that split off some other, 300-500 year old nonsense, which itself was a combination of 3 other 500-700 year old groups. This is how the cabal operates, including all the way down to their own family names.
The UK? That's rich... The Protestant Royal Family are a bunch of LUCIFARIAN's going all the way back to the depraved Monarch, King Richard VIII, the WITCH, Anne Boylin & her demonic spawn, Queen Elizabeth I. This is the source of the "Protestant" movement. You have been hoodwinked by the Secret Societies. martin Luther was a RoseCrutian, you misguided soul!
The U.K. Has given us Zionism, FreeMasonry, World Wars, Jimmy Savile, Maxwells, Epstiens... but you think this Satanic Empire are the good guys but the Vatican are the bad guys? Yikes!
Do some sincere research into the 300 year long war between SATANIC Freemasons & the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
Richard the EIghth?
Musta not heard the song"I'm Henry the VIII, I am"...
Pope Francis is a freemason
I am enclined to believe that too... however, he recently re-affirmed that Catholics Cant be Masons. I still dont trust him:
https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/vatican-reaffirms-grave-sin-freemasonry-catholics-cannot-join-worlds-largest-secret-society.amp
I do not Trusf Burgolio, but I am pleased to see a renewed interest in this 300 year old fued Between The Holy Roman Catholic Church & the Secret Societies.
If you dig further back, the war flares up in1307 between good & evil goes back to the Gnostic Ophites who infiltrated the Templars while they were stationed in Jerusalem; they were precursor of the Masons.
the Illumanti (Lumbrasos ) made their precense in 1492 & the Catholic Inquisitors hunted them down.
Intetesting times.
I dont trust Bergoglio either. (Catholic here.) Most of the truly faithful and awakened Catholics I know don't trust him either.
The church has been under greater attack for the last century. For those who haven't heard about the 100 years granted to satan, you can "duck, duck, go" it...this is excerpted from catholicnewsagency:
"On October 13, 1884 (which is exactly 33 years prior to the Miracle of the Sun in Fatima) Pope Leo XIII, just after celebrating Mass, turned pale and collapsed as though dead. Those standing nearby rushed to his side. They found him alive but the pontiff looked frightened. He then recounted having a vision of Satan approaching the throne of God, boasting that he could destroy the Church.
According to Pope Leo XIII the Lord reminded him that his Church was imperishable. Satan then replied, “Grant me one century and more power of those who will serve me, and I will destroy it.” Our Lord granted him 100 years.
The Lord then revealed the events of the 20th century to Leo XIII. He saw wars, immorality, genocide and apostasy on a large scale. Immediately following this disturbing vision, he sat down and wrote the prayer to St. Michael."
Intriguing; very intriguing.
Breaking news: Vatican is Zionist/Jesuit/Satanic Masons. Read Vatican Assassins.
He should Ex- Communicate himself..
(Agreed)
Read Vatican Assassins. Catholic Church/Jesuit Zionists/Masonic Devils tried to stop the Reformation— breaking away from them. They caused ALL wars to infiltrate countries around the world.
Martin Luther only claim to Validity was the fact that he was a Catholic Preist, take that away & he is simply a quack who broke his vows, married a Nun & attempted to re-write the bible.
He was a Gnostic who followed Kabbalah. Look at his Crest (Rose & Cross). Look at the Tudor Family Crest, Rose + Cross. Look at the a Rosecrutia Gnostic Secret Society Symbol, Rose + Cross.
The "reformation" was a looting operation with the Deep State Secret Societies fingerprints all over it. Mark my words.
While I love my Catholic faith, I don't love Francis. Many Catholics feel like I do - he's as fake a Pope as Biden is a fake POTUS.
It is linked, Vatican are not separate to what you describe u/Truthseeker84 https://qalerts.app/?n=1021
"List the estimated wealth of religious organizations. Billions. Vatican bank. $229B. Board of Superintendence. Supervisory Commission of Cardinals. Clown connection. 1832 Rothschild loan to the Holy See. Q"
This sounds like it it could be Biblical
Interesting discussion in the comment chain! And wow, what a wonderful youtube video posted! Amazing! It seems to go really well with the stench of some previously used quotes taking up space in the quote bag! Excuse the mess while the spot is cleaned and reorganized! Reconcile them if you may!
the papacy says:
the Bible says:
the papacy says:
the Bible says:
the papacy says:
the Bible says (who does the "he" in Daniel refer to, by the way? What do Daniel chapters 2, 7, and 9 talk of? How about Revelation chapters 13 and 17? Are these papacy quotes directly antithetical to Scripture? Is there a word for this characteristic?):
Who would have thought that this many quotes were stuck in the little corner of the quote bag? And in such antithetical parallelism too?! Sometimes its good to recycle!
You certainly know your quotes.
If nothing else, you win the award for the longest reply to a post.
Weren't there English courts involved when Henry XIII took all the monasteries and abbys and made himself head of the church?
I have valid questions regarding religion. How many are there? Thousands? This community is supposed to be all about the facts and difficult truths if I am not mistaken. This is not to insult or offend anyone. But as someone who does not subscribe to any religion it makes me wonder why the Christian version of religion is accepted here by so many when by using facts and reason you will come to the conclusion that it is all about control.
I am with this movement to save our country but when I see people pushing religion here I have to ask why. I am asking sincerely. Anyone who really digs into it will realize that the bible is loaded with contradictions, magic, violence and much more nonsense that is unacceptable by those who have not been indoctrinated like myself.
I am told by a Christian friend that if I do not accept Jesus as my savior that I deserve to burn in hell for eternity. Seems a little harsh does it not? There are some extremely smart people here so I am looking for an explanation as to why Christianity and the god associated with it is the only one. Does that mean that the Sentinelese people will burn for eternity because they have not accepted this god portrayed as a white man from the middle east as their savior? It doesn't make sense. It is clear that religion divides. Am I mistaken when I say this movement is in part about unity? Is every Islamic person going to burn for eternity? Is every Hindu person going to burn for eternity? Everyone who does not accept your version burns for eternity? That is weird, irrational and is clearly a system of control.
I want to be clear that I am 100% behind ridding the world of the evil scum that are ruining our country but religion is the one thing that I cannot understand. And I have done my research. We have proof of civilizations that existed far before the bible was written by man. Not to mention the bible has been altered and rewritten how many times? Radiocarbon dating shows Göbeklitepe was constructed between 9500 and 9000 BCE. That's 12,000 years ago. It is widely accepted that the bible claims the earth and the universe is 6,000 years old. How do you explain that? If Göbeklitepe is 12,000 years old then the bible is either wrong or radiocarbon dating is inaccurate if you accept the Bible as fact. That is one example of many. I can only assume that there are structures that have not been discovered yet that are even older. The oldest human skeleton has been said to be around 230,000 years old. So the earth and universe are not 6000 years old. When I discuss this with Christian friends of mine the answer is the same. It's either some wild mental gymnastics attempting to explain the discrepancies or they get angry and say something that amounts to nothing. You just gotta have faith.
I want to be clear that I am not here to start a name calling contest that leads nowhere. I just wish someone could explain how you come to your conclusion that Jesus Christ is the one true god. If you had been born in Indonesia it is very likely you would believe that Allah is the one true god. The region you were born in determines which version of god you are indoctrinated into. And then there is the killing of each other over these beliefs which I find grotesque and unacceptable.
Christians believe Jesus is God, but the Quran is so opposed to this belief that it condemns Jesus worshipers to Hell ([Qur'an] 5.72). For Christians, Jesus is certainly God, and for Muslims Jesus is certainly not God.
This is a truth community and that is what I am seeking. I am open to constructive conversation regarding what I have said above but name calling and insults will prove nothing and be ignored. I am not rejecting Christianity. I am sincerely interested in how so many of you very smart people have come to the conclusion that most of the world deserves to burn for eternity for not believing in one of thousands of versions of god which to me is clearly another form of division.
Thank you for listening. My mind is open to those who reply. From the Christians I personally know the response I receive is either an angry one or they finally end up saying I just need have faith. Their anger tells me that they are upset that I questioned their version of religion. And having faith in my opinion is equal to giving up on searching for truth. In addition praying is equal to doing nothing. It's like saying I stand with Ukraine while sitting in your favorite chair watching CNN.
Again, nothing here should be misconstrued as a personal insult. I am not attacking your or your beliefs. I am just struggling to understand how you settled with your version of god and how you explain the contradictions and discrepancies therein.
Take it up in the general discussion.
Vatican on trial in the UK because the legal system in the UK is controlled by muslims now
Pedophilia is also a "grave sin"!
May their activities be exposed for the world to see swiftly. Let me know how I can help. I would not hesitate to make it happen..
Here is an interesting video of a preacher making a strong argument that the Vatican is the biblical antichrist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kG7sFvwwbE
"There have been many claims as to the identity of the Little Horn or Antichrist Power from the Greek King Antiochus Epiphanus to Prince Charles. But is there a certain way to pinpoint this entity? Discover with Prof. Walter Veith the identity of the Antichrist using the 13 biblical criteria."