It's possible. Either he's A) compromised by the WH, or B) flipped to them voluntarily, and with either of those he's helping out MAGA by trashing the current field of RINOs; or
C) he's a DS rat who opportunistically switched sides to ride the MAGA wave like the usual controlled op.
But we can't really know. In the meantime he's fun to watch, as he gloriously trashes the RINOs onstage. Either way Trump wins.
What do Obama, Hillary, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Biden, Nikki Haley, Charles Schwab, The WHO/WEF/U.N./CCP/Democrat Party/RINOs, and Vivek Ramaswamy have in common?
They are all working very hard to keep Donald Trump from being elected and returning to the White House as POTUS.
"Vivek" says dance, and the monkeys dance.
Edit to add: Don't let me dissuade any fanboys. There's probably room for another fifty or so Ramaswamy posts asking this. Apparently the ones already here were missing something.
The mainstream conservative movement is dead. If this was still the America of pre-2012 then Mike Pence or Nikki Haley would likely be the nominee. Endless wars for Israel above anything else. These days Trump is 30 points ahead of them in the polls, no one cares about Israel or foreign wars or tax cuts for multinational corporations the stuff that would have fired the base in 2000.
I think Vivek is a plant by the elites to keep people invested in the GOP brand because they hear someone on the stage saying the things they believe. I doubt he believes a word of it and if he were to become the nominee he would forget about the people who believe those things in a second. I'm not saying he doesn't have his uses but I doubt president H1B would turn out very well.
I can't trust him. He came from nowhere. He wasn't, before he was. MSM picked him up and heavily promoted him. He became more popular. He disavows his WEF label. Get's the usual suspects to say racismz. Fights back, get's mo' popular.
Not until Trump has him by the balls should we trust VR. He shouldn't even be running against Trump, I say. None of them should be, (unless we wanted a mouth piece inside, which does make sense-agree)
I'll give VR this. Trump hasn't nicknamed him yet, that I am aware of.
So a WH, he certainly could be.
But, with his quick-thinking responses and knowledge of what's what, he'd be a natural and his press conferences would be on fire (!) as he would quickly shut down the liberal boot lickers and antagonists with their lies.
(Of course, this is assuming he's the real deal and not a plant...)
We've been told we're watching a movie. It's possible he is under control by w.h. because of some crimes he committed. We don't know but he may be working himself out of trouble with the law. We should be considering all possibilities as that is what this board does. We throw out theories. It doesn't mean people like him but he is speaking truth in these debates.
I agree. I admittedly get hot-headed with vivek shit and I should acknowledge that there's alot that i/we just don't know about vivek.
The reason why I get hot headed about him is that I think
It's possible he is under control by w.h
Is a very dangerous assumption given his background. I also find it strange that people only extend this logic to vivek and not, let's say, DeSantis. But I'd assume people would say "well yeah it's because at know "X" about DeSantis, which means you completely have to give vivek a complete free pass to overlook all of his past as well.
I don't care how good he is, or if he really is genuine, or whatever. I just don't want "President Ramaswamy". Having "President Barack Hussein Obama" just a few years after Osama bin Laden became enemy #1, was bad enough.
There is no other option right now, than President Donald J Trump.
Remember: Obama said a lot of common sense shit too before he was elected, especially in regard to immigration laws...NONE of which he backed up, but aggressively tore down in opposition to what he originally said.
BOTH were unheard of until the Presidential elections; i.e. came out of nowhere
BOTH are glib talkers and say everything you want to hear
This MFer's a Darkhorse for the Deepstate. Dont get fooled again: if you need reminders, listen to The Who's "Won't get fooled again" on repeat.
You missed the whole reason for my post. What if Vivek is in fact working on behalf of Trump? We will be voting for Trump, and Vivek is parroting Trump's statements and assertions while giving credit to Trump, AND reducing the other candidates to nothing. Normies who didn't consider Trump, may now see the benefits.
Well, for starters, no, I didnt miss the reason for your post. My comment was to perhaps put a spotlight on some very similar (identical?) traits and talk both Obama and Vivek share that others may not see or have been misled by what they want to hear from the guy. Added to this, Vivek uses the same rhetoric as Obama..like, direct quotes. More digging on this dude reveals more.
So I reiterate: Vivek is a Darkhorse, just like Obama was, and not working on behalf of Trump in any capacity, but definitely against. Be led to foolish conclusions all you want; the facts speak for themselves.
OK. The facts are, people are listening to him and realizing that Trump spoke the truth and always spoke the truth. That is a net plus, no matter what.
He is more eloquent in his speaking than everyone on stage and makes Trump's points well. He will not win the primary, so there is nothing to worry about.
facepalm Bro, listen, I never said or eluded to him winning anything. The point is, its just another tactic to draw votes away from Trump that would otherwise be his. This is a well known, and used, tactic in politics to dilute the voter confidence of the leading candidate. Same tactic is used in the smallest to the largest voter involved elections since elections became a thing.
[They] know damned well everything done to Trump only strengthens him. The way, then, is to use the insidious, "Hey I'm just like him" candidate tactic to draw away voters who dont pay that much, if any, attention.
So I disagree: there's plenty to worry about when a known tactic is used AND throwing in the staggering amount of clueless people out there voting to a cult of personality rather than past track records; once again, just like Obama, and so many others (Obama used for just used as most recent example) in History.
So tell me, what has Vivek done? I mean besides talk and smile a lot (again just like Obama) because I cant find anything?
It's possible. Either he's A) compromised by the WH, or B) flipped to them voluntarily, and with either of those he's helping out MAGA by trashing the current field of RINOs; or
C) he's a DS rat who opportunistically switched sides to ride the MAGA wave like the usual controlled op.
But we can't really know. In the meantime he's fun to watch, as he gloriously trashes the RINOs onstage. Either way Trump wins.
I said it earlier, but WTH:
What do Obama, Hillary, Schumer, McConnell, Pelosi, Biden, Nikki Haley, Charles Schwab, The WHO/WEF/U.N./CCP/Democrat Party/RINOs, and Vivek Ramaswamy have in common?
They are all working very hard to keep Donald Trump from being elected and returning to the White House as POTUS.
"Vivek" says dance, and the monkeys dance.
Edit to add: Don't let me dissuade any fanboys. There's probably room for another fifty or so Ramaswamy posts asking this. Apparently the ones already here were missing something.
Nailed it.
Everything about his background screams sleeper just like DeSantis.
Like Obama
Yes, exactly. Controlled puppets. Of course, they are rewarded for their “service” to the elites in destroying us and subjugating all of us.
All you need to know IMO: https://rumble.com/v3xp2td-vivek-vs-obama-vivek-copies-obama-word-for-word.-will-they-fool-you-again.html
Sure would be nice but I’m still not voting for him!
Republican Obama.
Very much a product and promotion of it from a formula, and not a WH one....
Yes, it's very possible he was selected for this role and prepped for debates by w.h.
maybe a stalking horse to test how much further we need to go before the big reveal.
Or a placeholder saying what Trump would say if he cared to show up to a circus.
He's not cutting into his poll numbers so whatever he is, he's helping. "They shall fall into the pit they dug for thee."
Several others are doing that as well.
Nope. He is self serving and doesn't like me and mine.
The mainstream conservative movement is dead. If this was still the America of pre-2012 then Mike Pence or Nikki Haley would likely be the nominee. Endless wars for Israel above anything else. These days Trump is 30 points ahead of them in the polls, no one cares about Israel or foreign wars or tax cuts for multinational corporations the stuff that would have fired the base in 2000.
I think Vivek is a plant by the elites to keep people invested in the GOP brand because they hear someone on the stage saying the things they believe. I doubt he believes a word of it and if he were to become the nominee he would forget about the people who believe those things in a second. I'm not saying he doesn't have his uses but I doubt president H1B would turn out very well.
I can't trust him. He came from nowhere. He wasn't, before he was. MSM picked him up and heavily promoted him. He became more popular. He disavows his WEF label. Get's the usual suspects to say racismz. Fights back, get's mo' popular.
Not until Trump has him by the balls should we trust VR. He shouldn't even be running against Trump, I say. None of them should be, (unless we wanted a mouth piece inside, which does make sense-agree)
I'll give VR this. Trump hasn't nicknamed him yet, that I am aware of. So a WH, he certainly could be.
I like everything he's saying, but we just don't know him. We KNOW Trump.
Trump 2024
He'd make a great press secretary
I agree. I doubt he'd take the position, though.
But, with his quick-thinking responses and knowledge of what's what, he'd be a natural and his press conferences would be on fire (!) as he would quickly shut down the liberal boot lickers and antagonists with their lies.
(Of course, this is assuming he's the real deal and not a plant...)
That would be fun!
Time will tell. Whatever he is, he isn't gonna be president.
I am so heartened by everyone here not falling for his poor salesmanship.
Omg the mental gymnastics going on with vivek as of late is embarrassing
We've been told we're watching a movie. It's possible he is under control by w.h. because of some crimes he committed. We don't know but he may be working himself out of trouble with the law. We should be considering all possibilities as that is what this board does. We throw out theories. It doesn't mean people like him but he is speaking truth in these debates.
I agree. I admittedly get hot-headed with vivek shit and I should acknowledge that there's alot that i/we just don't know about vivek.
The reason why I get hot headed about him is that I think
Is a very dangerous assumption given his background. I also find it strange that people only extend this logic to vivek and not, let's say, DeSantis. But I'd assume people would say "well yeah it's because at know "X" about DeSantis, which means you completely have to give vivek a complete free pass to overlook all of his past as well.
I don't care how good he is, or if he really is genuine, or whatever. I just don't want "President Ramaswamy". Having "President Barack Hussein Obama" just a few years after Osama bin Laden became enemy #1, was bad enough.
There is no other option right now, than President Donald J Trump.
I'm not advocating voting for him! You missed my message. I think he is a stealth weapon to promote Trump.
For forever long he does so, enjoy the truthisms. I find him so refreshing. But I still expect disappointment eventually.
Think I heard he's one of those global leader clowns part of the WEF
He's had podcast where he talks about how Trump is compromised. Pushing vaccines.
Argentina had someone that spoke what people wanted to hear then back tracked once elected. This is one of those guys. Another globalist puppet.
You do not get in spot light without billions or you have a leash by the globalist regime.
Remember: Obama said a lot of common sense shit too before he was elected, especially in regard to immigration laws...NONE of which he backed up, but aggressively tore down in opposition to what he originally said.
This MFer's a Darkhorse for the Deepstate. Dont get fooled again: if you need reminders, listen to The Who's "Won't get fooled again" on repeat.
You missed the whole reason for my post. What if Vivek is in fact working on behalf of Trump? We will be voting for Trump, and Vivek is parroting Trump's statements and assertions while giving credit to Trump, AND reducing the other candidates to nothing. Normies who didn't consider Trump, may now see the benefits.
Well, for starters, no, I didnt miss the reason for your post. My comment was to perhaps put a spotlight on some very similar (identical?) traits and talk both Obama and Vivek share that others may not see or have been misled by what they want to hear from the guy. Added to this, Vivek uses the same rhetoric as Obama..like, direct quotes. More digging on this dude reveals more.
So I reiterate: Vivek is a Darkhorse, just like Obama was, and not working on behalf of Trump in any capacity, but definitely against. Be led to foolish conclusions all you want; the facts speak for themselves.
OK. The facts are, people are listening to him and realizing that Trump spoke the truth and always spoke the truth. That is a net plus, no matter what.
Bingo: people are listening to HIM, not Trump. This divides the vote, not solidifies it. This is a net plus only for the Deepstate.
He is more eloquent in his speaking than everyone on stage and makes Trump's points well. He will not win the primary, so there is nothing to worry about.
facepalm Bro, listen, I never said or eluded to him winning anything. The point is, its just another tactic to draw votes away from Trump that would otherwise be his. This is a well known, and used, tactic in politics to dilute the voter confidence of the leading candidate. Same tactic is used in the smallest to the largest voter involved elections since elections became a thing.
[They] know damned well everything done to Trump only strengthens him. The way, then, is to use the insidious, "Hey I'm just like him" candidate tactic to draw away voters who dont pay that much, if any, attention.
So I disagree: there's plenty to worry about when a known tactic is used AND throwing in the staggering amount of clueless people out there voting to a cult of personality rather than past track records; once again, just like Obama, and so many others (Obama used for just used as most recent example) in History.
So tell me, what has Vivek done? I mean besides talk and smile a lot (again just like Obama) because I cant find anything?
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