Don't forget here we also have sales tax (7-9%) and property/school taxes that if you don't pay they steal your house. Gas tax can be .50-.70c/gal. The effective tax rate is probably 60%.
"No taxation without representation" – only a VERY slim minority of those in Congress actually represent we the people. The others line their pocketbooks and launder WORKING CLASS MONEY to themselves.
Richest country in the world, with most going to thieves that hate our guts and wish we were dead.
First you must be willing to die for what you believe. That’s a big step for most. Just not paying is not enough. You have to be willing to fight to the death when they come for you. Not in court, at your front door… And to take as many of them with you as possible. This is hard for most people including me, one look at your family and children is enough to say fuck it I’ll just pay and hope/pray there’s another way to stop the madness. It’s becoming more and more obvious to most that if the ‘good guys’ within the machine don’t take a stand for the people to follow then it comes down to each of us as individuals to water the tree of liberty. I’ll be the first to admit it’s scary as fuck. But what’s the point if our children are bound to inherit this bullshit. Lock n load.
16th Amendment
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
That’s not where the definition is, though.
Where is the definition they’re referencing held at? Does it have conditions?
Amendments (or bill of rights) is part of the constitution but not the constitution.
Forgive me for not giving you a straight answer but when it comes to this topic I want people to actually do the work.
E: you may need to rely on Supreme Court rulings and public laws for rulings that point to the exact interpretation, that may give a hint to where it’s located within the articles.
I did a full text search on the constitution and the 16th amendment was the only place “income” popped up.
Are you referring to USC or Case Law as being inclusive to the constitution? If so, that was kinda my point that I was driving at. “Where are the other foundational pillars of these laws and statutes defined at?”
Is Cornell the authoritative legal dictionary for the constitution?
And no, Cornell is not an authoritative source but it’s better than nothing.
If you’re looking for a single source (which I think you are) you won’t find it. Instead you have to “connect the dots” so to speak. An example: Public Law 86-624 says that statutes are limited by their definitions. So now you would need to understand the definitions and how they apply to you. Define “employee”, “employer”, “trade or business”, etc… they all relate to businesses.
Have not payed Mr tax man for over two years now . Will see nothing yet. I crossed the border every year you would think they would question then but nope.
We also pay EI (employment insurance) and CPP (pension), which are taxes on income, but somehow deemed not to be income tax. That’s an extra 5% off my cheque right there.
We ought to start out with a once-a-month strike, like the first Monday of the month… then rachet it up to two Mondays a month, then 4 … make it so its not egregious enough to fire you for cause, but also make it so the boss is having trouble getting shit done.
Socialism is a great thing, isn't it? Canada-running second to America (right now) but we are making headway to get to number 1. Thanks Commies for hating America.
Retired now but, this is why I stopped working as much overtime as I used to when I was working. At a certain point you aren't making any money, just paying tax.
I have maintained this entire time that plan or no plan we will know based on whether or not they reduce taxes and abolish the fed. If Trump gets in again and doesn't massively overhaul all tax and the fed then 100% we are still wage slaves. And I'm not taking about tax breaks, I'm talking about ending social security, high interest rates, and lowering the effective tax rate to less than 18% total regardless of income while capping all interest rates. No home loan should ever be above 3% and no personal loan or credit card should be above 10%
I still hold out hope but even in the US if you include taxes and requirements like car tags, home insurance, local and state tax, social security, car insurance, etc. We are likely above 50% tax too. I've seen estimates as high as 65-70. now throw in inflation which is the silent killer and we are swamped.
It's getting wild. As a business owner I'm almost only taking home 35 percent of my earnings. I'm.a sole proprietor. I am the only employee. It's more worth it to work for some one else these days and that is fuckkng sad
Don't forget here we also have sales tax (7-9%) and property/school taxes that if you don't pay they steal your house. Gas tax can be .50-.70c/gal. The effective tax rate is probably 60%.
This is slavery.
9% some places are 10 or over for sales tax.
Absolutely is slavery.
"No taxation without representation" – only a VERY slim minority of those in Congress actually represent we the people. The others line their pocketbooks and launder WORKING CLASS MONEY to themselves.
Richest country in the world, with most going to thieves that hate our guts and wish we were dead.
Post provinces pay more than that! Some sales tax is like 14% It's fucking madness.
Amen.
We are serfs. You are right.
That is why PEOPLE wake up and stop paying THE BIG MR. TAX MAN !!!! HAVE SOME BALLLSSS!!!!
First you must be willing to die for what you believe. That’s a big step for most. Just not paying is not enough. You have to be willing to fight to the death when they come for you. Not in court, at your front door… And to take as many of them with you as possible. This is hard for most people including me, one look at your family and children is enough to say fuck it I’ll just pay and hope/pray there’s another way to stop the madness. It’s becoming more and more obvious to most that if the ‘good guys’ within the machine don’t take a stand for the people to follow then it comes down to each of us as individuals to water the tree of liberty. I’ll be the first to admit it’s scary as fuck. But what’s the point if our children are bound to inherit this bullshit. Lock n load.
Truth.
This is where I stop advocating against violence, because at this point, precisely, at the foot of your doorstep it becomes self defense.
Self defense against unlawful behavior is not against the law, no matter what they tell us.
During the scamdemic I was looking at barb wiring my front entrance.
amen.
Any advice or personal experience on what happens after you don’t pay them?
Look up the definition of “income”.
You’ll be looking for a long time. They hide it.
It’s in the constitution as business profits.
Are you a “trade or business” (per irc)
That’s not where the definition is, though.
Where is the definition they’re referencing held at? Does it have conditions?
Amendments (or bill of rights) is part of the constitution but not the constitution.
Forgive me for not giving you a straight answer but when it comes to this topic I want people to actually do the work.
E: you may need to rely on Supreme Court rulings and public laws for rulings that point to the exact interpretation, that may give a hint to where it’s located within the articles.
I did a full text search on the constitution and the 16th amendment was the only place “income” popped up.
Are you referring to USC or Case Law as being inclusive to the constitution? If so, that was kinda my point that I was driving at. “Where are the other foundational pillars of these laws and statutes defined at?”
Is Cornell the authoritative legal dictionary for the constitution?
I’m referring to public laws, for example: https://www.congress.gov/97/statute/STATUTE-96/STATUTE-96-Pg1211.pdf
And no, Cornell is not an authoritative source but it’s better than nothing.
If you’re looking for a single source (which I think you are) you won’t find it. Instead you have to “connect the dots” so to speak. An example: Public Law 86-624 says that statutes are limited by their definitions. So now you would need to understand the definitions and how they apply to you. Define “employee”, “employer”, “trade or business”, etc… they all relate to businesses.
Don’t take this personally but being lazy won’t get you far: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C1-1-1/ALDE_00013387/
Have not payed Mr tax man for over two years now . Will see nothing yet. I crossed the border every year you would think they would question then but nope.
Wesley snipes went to jail
I believe willy nelson lost his house
Actor
They just raised capital gains taxes to 66%.
no business is going to stick around at that absurd rate
What, you don’t want to risk everything you ever saved so you can give all the profit of your risk to people who want you dead?
“That’s not a very pro-capitalism attitude, pleb. I need more black face paint and jet fuel.” — Justine Castro
They all moved to TX
We also pay EI (employment insurance) and CPP (pension), which are taxes on income, but somehow deemed not to be income tax. That’s an extra 5% off my cheque right there.
Those money changers all need to hang.
We ought to start out with a once-a-month strike, like the first Monday of the month… then rachet it up to two Mondays a month, then 4 … make it so its not egregious enough to fire you for cause, but also make it so the boss is having trouble getting shit done.
Step 1 ----- eliminate Trudeau.
won't matter if they elect the CPC... Different wing, same bird.
Same as it is in the US with Dems and Rinos.
He is only a smiling puppet. Eliminate bankers.
Socialism is a great thing, isn't it? Canada-running second to America (right now) but we are making headway to get to number 1. Thanks Commies for hating America.
Many years ago, I thought Canada was great due to the free health care. Now, I understand.
Gas went up 14 cents at midnight last night. FOURTEEN CENTS!!
I noticed that. It's ridiculous.
Absolutely. I pay an absolutely absurd amount of tax. I make just over 6 figures, but after tax it's like 60 grand a year CANADIAN it's a nightmare.
It's absolute greed
Retired now but, this is why I stopped working as much overtime as I used to when I was working. At a certain point you aren't making any money, just paying tax.
I have maintained this entire time that plan or no plan we will know based on whether or not they reduce taxes and abolish the fed. If Trump gets in again and doesn't massively overhaul all tax and the fed then 100% we are still wage slaves. And I'm not taking about tax breaks, I'm talking about ending social security, high interest rates, and lowering the effective tax rate to less than 18% total regardless of income while capping all interest rates. No home loan should ever be above 3% and no personal loan or credit card should be above 10%
I still hold out hope but even in the US if you include taxes and requirements like car tags, home insurance, local and state tax, social security, car insurance, etc. We are likely above 50% tax too. I've seen estimates as high as 65-70. now throw in inflation which is the silent killer and we are swamped.
You got it. I want to see Fed go first and then everything else will follow.
Im paying 28-30% to a corrupt government that cant stay on a budget, 29% more to my ex wife & GOD knows what for everything else.
END THE FED!!!
Yes. You got it. I want to see that first of all.
It's getting wild. As a business owner I'm almost only taking home 35 percent of my earnings. I'm.a sole proprietor. I am the only employee. It's more worth it to work for some one else these days and that is fuckkng sad
It is truly sad. I am also and that's not fun.
Yeah but they get free euthanasia. Lucky bastards....
:(
This is for the Province of Ontario. Other provinces don’t have quite the tax base Ontario has.
Thank you.
More diversity FASTER
Dear Cannucks,
America's closed. Borders may look like we're open open, but we're closed. Fix your own mistakes before coming down to the U S., please. Thanks.
Signed,
We, The People
P.S. yes we have our own mistakes to clean, that's why we don't need y'all coming down here creating more for us.
Less poor doesn't mean what she thinks it does.
holy fuck
That sounds like socialism!
Yes.