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The War On Nicotine Is A War On Vitality (thefederalist.com)
posted 318 days ago by LakotaPride 318 days ago by LakotaPride +68 / -2
The War On Nicotine Is A War On Vitality
By trying to take down Zyn, the federal government is seeking to suppress the vibrant, youthful spirit that once defined America.
thefederalist.com
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– Tailgunner49 12 points 318 days ago +15 / -3

Interesting well written BUT Nicotine addiction kills….and it’s an ugly painful way to go - very very very difficult circular habit to stop

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– Notimportant81 29 points 318 days ago +30 / -1

Nicotine is not the killer. Doesn't cause cancer. It's the junk in the smoke.

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– OXRanger 20 points 318 days ago +21 / -1

Yep! It's medicinal and prevents Covid.

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– Notimportant81 12 points 318 days ago +13 / -1

Tobacco is the best remedy for stopping the pain from a bee or wasp sting.

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– treepainter 12 points 318 days ago +12 / -0

Pesticides, herbicides and additives. I am fond of cigars but the only cigar maker that only uses organic tobacco is Valencia. Quite pricey but worth the avoidance of all the tru poisons.

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– artyjulia 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

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– JizmJunky 1 point 318 days ago +4 / -3

Nicotine is Def a killer, I use it as an insecticide regularly in agriculture.

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– NanoKhuma 13 points 318 days ago +14 / -1

Welcome to the term dosage, alcohol kills bacteria but you only ever see major health issues with heavy drinking.

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– JizmJunky 7 points 318 days ago +7 / -0

Sure, vitamin C can also kill with high dose. I'm not a fan of banning anything, free market that shit!! But I've only seen intense addiction from nicotine use, nothing in between.

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– deleted 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0
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– CheekyHawk 7 points 318 days ago +7 / -0

Did you know “water poisoning” is a real thing and people die every year of it? It’s also referred to as water intoxication and water toxicity.

The LD50 for Tylenol is 4000mg for the average adult, and caffeine is actually incredibly lethal, at 150-200mg per KG, and in some cases in the 50mg per KG range.

People have died from too much oxygen, water, heat and cold. What are we talking about team?

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– JizmJunky 3 points 318 days ago +3 / -0

Life is a killer, sadly. I work in chemicals, stuff I handle has a very low LD50. In general, nicotine can kill just like anything else.

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– JohnnyMagnum357 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Yes. OSHA has an MSDS(Material Data Safety Sheet) for H2O.

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– AmateurExpert 1 point 259 days ago +1 / -0

Someone claimed that if you subvert the surface tension layer that your oxygen absorption gets reduced, eventually leading to severe hypoxia.

Seems legit.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Nicotine is not the killer. Doesn't cause cancer.

Nicotine poses several health hazards. There is an increased risk of cardiovascular, respiratory, gastrointestinal disorders. There is decreased immune response and it also poses ill impacts on the reproductive health. It affects the cell proliferation, oxidative stress, apoptosis, DNA mutation by various mechanisms which leads to cancer. It also affects the tumor proliferation and metastasis and causes resistance to chemo and radio therapeutic agents.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/

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– UltraMagaOK 5 points 318 days ago +6 / -1

It's radioactive polonium in rock phosphate fertilizer taken up by the tobacco plant and deposited in the leaves that causes cancer in smokers.

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– NanoKhuma 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

You know, I've always wondered how that's the case for tobacco and literally no other foodstuff given it's not going to be tobacco farmers purposely ordering the cancer fertilizer.

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– CheekyHawk 4 points 318 days ago +4 / -0

Well cigarette smoking is down and cancer is way up…. So ya.

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– UltraMagaOK 3 points 318 days ago +4 / -1

Tobacco absorbs polonium easily. Rock phosphate is considered organic. The presence of polonium in tobacco leaves has been swept under the rug.

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– UltraMagaOK 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

I am interested to hear the downvoter's information. I already knew it when I heard it from a cardiovascular specialist speaking to a group of >70 other specialists at a cardiovascular center of a major hospital. He said the latest research shows lung cancer in smokers is from radioactive isotopes in the leaf. None of them batted an eye. I thought this information needs to be made public and the doctors who know are responsible for making an effort to do that.

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 259 days ago +2 / -0

Probably same bots that downvote prayers and casual conversation.

If it’s -1, I assume bot or shill.

If it’s -7, the wrong audience saw your whichever direction Zionist comment.

If the post got deleted, or several people corrected you, or just mocked the response, it was actually a bad comment.

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– winn 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

see: https://greatawakening.win/p/17tLFhKmIb/x/c/4ZCaGXkL7GS

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– Humble_trashman 3 points 318 days ago +3 / -0

Quitting nicotine was rough. 6 weeks of the worst sleep of my life, not to mention the effect on mood during the day..for me the process of quitting was enough to deter me from picking up the habit back up.

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– 2day 3 points 318 days ago +3 / -0

Nicotine is not addictive nor is it a carcinogen, it's the other crap in cigarettes.

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– Likeitirish1 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

Nicotine does not kill. Has many many medical benefits . What kills are the chemicals used in tobacoo products. Nicotine Patches offer low dose of nicotine have many benefits for your brain and immune system. They don't like nicotine because it is medicinal and now that companies are selling pure nicotine without all the deadly addictive chemicals, our deep state goons need it gone. Also it kills covid and boosts your immune system...fights alzheimers, helps people with MS..the list goes on. Nicotine is not the problem when it comes to addiction.

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– FLHouse01 9 points 318 days ago +9 / -0

They used the cool young people to sell product. Don't be a naive OP.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

The more the Government controsl you the less creative and productive people become. In the end you have sheep. Tobbaco was used by us as a cure in the past and still is. But then we ignored Big Pharma. Now who is really naive OP ?

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– axrevolutionai 7 points 318 days ago +7 / -0

Sorry, but no way one of the most addictive substances with proven neurological changes, pathway blocks, and antinutrient action is actually good

I am all for the idea of clown world, but the cabal gave up trillions of dolllars in the nictoine industry as it was before because they had no way of keeping the truth sealed...lying about nicotine was impossible even for them

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

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– deleted 5 points 318 days ago +5 / -0
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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

The more the Government controls what you can and can not do, the less creative and productive people become. We end up like sheep. Still laughing now ?

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– deleted 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0
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– LakotaPride [S] 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

lot of food for thought in this article.

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– LakotaPride [S] 2 points 317 days ago +2 / -0

No thanks needed . Happy to share.

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– treepainter 5 points 318 days ago +5 / -0

Abuse of anything isn't beneficial. The problem is government intervention and the forced use of fertilizers, herbicides, pesticides etc etc.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Always comes back to moderation. Even water that is healthy when drinking to much water can cause water intoxication.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 4 points 318 days ago +4 / -0

Yeah, whenever I think 'vitality', I think cigarette smoking or nicotine addiction.

It must be the same for everyone else too.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

And the more the Government cotrols what you can and can not do. That creativity and productivity stops. The sheep effect in the end.

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– CheekyBastard 3 points 318 days ago +3 / -0

Here I am thinking we were going to have a discussion about the draconian policies and tactics of the fed gubmint and the FDA, only to find this entire thread is a shit show argument between tobacco and cannabis.

Silly me.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Sadly you missed the point about the more the Government cpntrols you the less creative and productive people have become.

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– 1958Antigravityreprt 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

Long time chewing tobacco user and have been using ZYN. I do not trust the packet that ZYN is using. Question: Are there businesses for the public to test products?

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Not that I am aware of.

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– FeebleOldMan 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

Nicotine is good. Smoking it with tons of chemicals is not. Its not addictive, the chemicals added are.

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

Amen, plus the more the Government controls what we can and can not do. creactivity and production goes down. Soon all one has is sheep.

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– Fatality 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

Sorry nicotine isn't good to be addicted to (i know).

I no longer smoke, but i do have nicotine gum.. and have been using it since covid when i heard it helps.. now im addicted to the gum

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

True, but the point here is. The more the Government decides what you can and can do do. The less creative and productive we become.

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– XGemInaV -1 points 318 days ago +3 / -4

Contrast these benefits to the effects of marijuana — sloth, paranoia, even schizophrenia. Though marijuana is still illegal in six of the 50 states, daily marijuana consumption has outpaced that of daily alcohol consumption. An estimated 40 percent of marijuana users consume daily, a trait more congruent with that of tobacco use than alcohol use, yet there are far greater dangers posed by excessive marijuana consumption, such as cannabis-associated psychosis. Additionally, excess marijuana use is proven to have much more debilitating side effects. It can affect normal brain development, leading to problems in learning, memory, coordination, reaction time, and judgment.

Marijujuana is pagan and degenerate.

Nicotine is based and Christian.

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– UltraMagaOK 3 points 318 days ago +4 / -1

You know nothing about Cannabis and whoever wrote that is the same as you.

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– XGemInaV 4 points 318 days ago +5 / -1

medicinal cannabis for actual conditions i have no problem with. recreational use and abuse to escape reality and avoid problems is destructive to the human spirit.

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– UltraMagaOK 3 points 318 days ago +5 / -2

Ignorance is destructive to the human spirit. Tobacco was unknown to the west until brought back from the new world. Cannabis is a candidate for the 'kaneh bosm' component of the holy anointing oil of biblical times.

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– UltraMagaOK 3 points 318 days ago +4 / -1

Nice opinion there. Do you have much experience with the herb?

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– Akka 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

I suppose it's pretty much the same with most similar plants or plant products, or fungi, humans have used, some doses and controlled use can be beneficial, larger ones or more frequent use not. Alcohol, cannabis, nicotine in tobacco - there seem to be claims that nicotine may even have a beneficial effect on Alzheimer's, and some other neurological problems, improves insulin sensitivity (might explain why tobacco once was popular with women who tried to lose weight, it actually can help) and so on.

But with nicotine you probably are not going to get more good stuff if you smoke than you get the bad effects. And if you get addicted, which it does to most if used regularly, you will most likely start to use too much.

So - controlled use, small doses.

The problem with all of those substances compared to even a couple of hundred years ago, much less back when they were first discovered by humans before written history, is that they are now both too easy to get, and are addictive. When you had to do something like wait until the certain mushrooms or plants were available in the forest, then collect and preserve them, then use what you had managed to get so that it would last through the whole year until the next season when those plants or mushrooms grew, well not going to be using a lot but leave the stuff for either to be used as some sort of medicine, or if for entertainment, only for very special occasions.

And then even after people started agriculture and grew larger crops, the plants still grew only on certain areas, and when traded were more expensive so most people still used them in smaller doses and less frequently because they had to use their resources for rather more important things like food, and the real addicts were a smaller group.

About alcohol, there is btw an interesting study about its use in my country, Finland. Finns are now known as people who often use too much and have a culture that even encourages getting blind drunk when you do use. But that one study of historical use of alcohol here actually found out that once upon a time Finns seem to have been moderate users. A few hundred years ago, when we were still a part of Sweden. So, at that time most alcohol was rather weak beer that was brewed in the homes of the people, and they'd use it daily, but then there usually were some in the neighborhood who knew how to make the stronger stuff, and would sell some to their neighbors. Steady supply of fairly affordable stuff. And people would mostly do something like get a few drinks for the sauna evenings.

Then the Swedish crown decided to monopolize alcohol for the crown. The government would give permits to make it and to sell it, but you had to have one of those before you could do either or you were punished, and they collected taxes from both the makers and the sellers.

So it became expensive and hard to get.

And the habits of using it changed radically. Now, when people could get it they used more, and getting drunk became acceptable and even sought after because it meant you had the money to get it, and with most, they had no guarantee as to when they could get it next.

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– deleted 2 points 318 days ago +3 / -1
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– artyjulia 2 points 318 days ago +2 / -0

Papyrus.

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– ZeroDeltaTango 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

What a load of steaming feces.

Get back to me when there's been even one single death attributable to cannabis. Still at zero after eight thousand years LOL

Meanwhile tobacco (the main delivery vehicle for nicotine) kills about eight million people per YEAR. WTF is "based and Christian" about that?

Marijujuana

Your ignorance is as epic as a tasty toasty twisty of Blue Dream LOL

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– LakotaPride [S] 1 point 318 days ago +1 / -0

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1

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