When the pred hunters assault the preds, they ruin the legal case against them for the police. Fyi
edit- oh yeah, downvote the logical reply, let's just ruin the prosecution of the suspect and let them walk free, or wait! let's just "handle them ourselves" since the courts are corrupt, throwing our own lives away and never catch another pred again! Yeah, we don't need that pesky Constitution either. DERP retard
How do you know he would have been prosecuted? Too many escape justice, our court systems let these creeps off easy more often than not, and their victims suffer their entire lives.
Trump's idea of Capital Punishment for child rape gets my vote of approval, and child rape doesn't necessarily mean penetration, as some preds prefer to give than receive.
Because that's the goal of any good-faith pred catcher. Why would they risk tanking the charges? Just because the penalties are too weak or not being enforced properly doesn't mean we should throw off the Constitution either.
& I agree with you on the capitol punishment but that should be something requiring hard proof and an honest, transparent appeals process, otherwise life in prison with parole AND life-sentence of Probation if they get out, and which the CRIMINAL shall pay for, else otherwise, forfeit their freedom once more.
I'm no lawyer but have watched enough pred hunters on YouTube to know a bit about how it goes. Every LEO agency is different and some won't even arrest the pred if they assault him or even harass him in legal ways.
here's from AI
Assaulting the pedophiles during these sting operations can jeopardize the prosecution in several ways:
Evidence contamination: Any physical altercation or assault on the suspect might lead to the contamination or loss of crucial evidence needed for a successful prosecution. This could result in the case being thrown out of court.
Violation of civil rights: Assaulting the suspect might be considered a violation of their civil rights, especially if the evidence against them is not strong enough. This could lead to a lawsuit against the vigilante group and potentially result in the case being dismissed.
Entrapment defense: If the vigilante group uses excessive force or coercion, the suspect's lawyer might argue that their client was entrapped, leading to the case being dismissed or a not guilty verdict.
Tainting the jury: The graphic nature of the assault might influence the jury's perception of the case, making it difficult for them to remain objective and focus on the evidence at hand.
Legal consequences for the vigilantes: The individuals involved in the assault could face criminal charges themselves, which might undermine their credibility as witnesses and damage the prosecution's case
Also any warrant obtained from the chat logs would be worthless. Creep's lawyer could easily challenge legal "probable cause" given the circumstances. That means any evidence obtained (pics on phone, chat logs, etc) would be thrown out in court assuming a DA even tried to prosecute him.
Imagine if he had "those" kind of pics on his phone of him doing God know's what to some kid...now LEA can't do a damn thing about it and creep walks free.
100%. I think people underestimate the power of lawfare in cases involving average Joe Schmo's on the street. By now we are familiar with high-level lawfare, but regular people who enter "the system" encounter it all the time, and from both sides!
Yeah, it really depends on where you're at. However the overall message I got from watching these groups is that to make sure the pred gets successfully prosecuted, as well as to avoid going to jail themselves, the whole sting op must be 100% on the up-and-up. Every T crossed and i dotted
Think of them as actual cops, minus the arrest / charging powers. The cops don't start whaling on the preds they sting, unless of course they assault the cops.. but even that only results in lawful takedown techniques, tazors or mace, and deadly force if the suspect pulls a weapon. (in this situation of course, the ameatures have lawful deadly force to protect their lives, as anybody would)
So the pred hunters need to also act lawfully to have the best results
I don't think making a mess of that store and forcing the employees to clean it up was a very considerate move, although I do agree that pedo scum are the worst and need punishment.. I'd like to see what happened after this interaction.
DA files assault charges on the two perps that roughed up the Pedo. The two guys start crying because they will be drained financially. A better way would be film the interaction (without violence) and post all over the interweb - send to his family, friends and work. Screen shot the Pedo conversation with the child - work smarter not harder
Meh, I prefer street justice, especially when the courts have proven themselves incompetent. This guy will very likely never even look at a minor again.
That's how you end up destroying a country. If we abandon "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" we have basically abandoned the Constitution.
No matter how bad you want it, don't. Let them be prosecuted and put in jail, THEN let them face their ass beatings, behind bars...
If crooked courts don't put him away, we should shine a light on them and get the crooks out of the legal system. Tall order? Yeah, but critically important.
Tall order that may not be fulfilled. Correctional facilities breed more criminals. He can also file for PC, which most pedos do once behind bars. I think he was proven guilty, when these two guys came with receipts. IMO, this was the best form of rehabilitation.
Is this true? Charges were filed against the 2? Any way I can look that up? If that's what happened to them, devastating outcome, especially for the dude filming. I don't think he broke any laws. Dr. Pepper dude, different story.
I condone these actions. This is how people learn. Shaming them don't do shit but he will relive this for the rest of his days. I hope these guys cleaned up that store and paid any damages. They will go to jail but at least someone is doing something to these faggots
They just handed this creep a "get out of jail free" card. Instead of being arrested and charged for solicitation of a fake 13 y.o., now he's free to molest real kids. If this ever did get in the hands of LEA, the roid rage asshole in the Dr. Pepper shirt will go up for aggravated assault and the creep will go free.
If you are going to do this, don't film it fools. He may be a predator but you are guilty of aggravated battery. You lured him there to beat him. If you caught him in the act different story. He will be free to hurt some kid and you will be in prison. Smarten up.
When the Charivari, or rough music, plays loud, the end is never pleasant.
This, although satisfying to most of us to see happen to a predator, isn't truly justice as the legal system will hit both sides for violating the law. It also was foolish to do it in a supermarket.
That was amazing, like 30 years of justice taking place.
Hopefully America sets the standard for ridding abortion and pedophiles. This is actually mild, Christ said that it would be better to have a millstone around your neck and sink the bottom of the sea.
So I wonder what the Creator has in mind, if that is the better option. Just think about it.
Baby raping and killing pedos are the highest form of evil on earth.
When the pred hunters assault the preds, they ruin the legal case against them for the police. Fyi
edit- oh yeah, downvote the logical reply, let's just ruin the prosecution of the suspect and let them walk free, or wait! let's just "handle them ourselves" since the courts are corrupt, throwing our own lives away and never catch another pred again! Yeah, we don't need that pesky Constitution either. DERP retard
wake up please!!!!
When the legal system is broken, it’s time for Dr. Pepper.
😅
Who cares- we’ve watched judges be so soft on child sex crimes they are predators too.
Ok have fun with that
Tank the case against the pred and they're free to do more predding
or
kill the pred, go to jail, one less pred catcher on the street
which one?
One less pred tho too and a clearly spoken message
How do you know he would have been prosecuted? Too many escape justice, our court systems let these creeps off easy more often than not, and their victims suffer their entire lives.
Trump's idea of Capital Punishment for child rape gets my vote of approval, and child rape doesn't necessarily mean penetration, as some preds prefer to give than receive.
Because that's the goal of any good-faith pred catcher. Why would they risk tanking the charges? Just because the penalties are too weak or not being enforced properly doesn't mean we should throw off the Constitution either.
& I agree with you on the capitol punishment but that should be something requiring hard proof and an honest, transparent appeals process, otherwise life in prison with parole AND life-sentence of Probation if they get out, and which the CRIMINAL shall pay for, else otherwise, forfeit their freedom once more.
How?
I'm no lawyer but have watched enough pred hunters on YouTube to know a bit about how it goes. Every LEO agency is different and some won't even arrest the pred if they assault him or even harass him in legal ways.
here's from AI
Assaulting the pedophiles during these sting operations can jeopardize the prosecution in several ways:
Evidence contamination: Any physical altercation or assault on the suspect might lead to the contamination or loss of crucial evidence needed for a successful prosecution. This could result in the case being thrown out of court.
Violation of civil rights: Assaulting the suspect might be considered a violation of their civil rights, especially if the evidence against them is not strong enough. This could lead to a lawsuit against the vigilante group and potentially result in the case being dismissed.
Entrapment defense: If the vigilante group uses excessive force or coercion, the suspect's lawyer might argue that their client was entrapped, leading to the case being dismissed or a not guilty verdict.
Tainting the jury: The graphic nature of the assault might influence the jury's perception of the case, making it difficult for them to remain objective and focus on the evidence at hand.
Legal consequences for the vigilantes: The individuals involved in the assault could face criminal charges themselves, which might undermine their credibility as witnesses and damage the prosecution's case
Also any warrant obtained from the chat logs would be worthless. Creep's lawyer could easily challenge legal "probable cause" given the circumstances. That means any evidence obtained (pics on phone, chat logs, etc) would be thrown out in court assuming a DA even tried to prosecute him.
Imagine if he had "those" kind of pics on his phone of him doing God know's what to some kid...now LEA can't do a damn thing about it and creep walks free.
100%. I think people underestimate the power of lawfare in cases involving average Joe Schmo's on the street. By now we are familiar with high-level lawfare, but regular people who enter "the system" encounter it all the time, and from both sides!
I could see it going that way especially under this admin.
Yeah, it really depends on where you're at. However the overall message I got from watching these groups is that to make sure the pred gets successfully prosecuted, as well as to avoid going to jail themselves, the whole sting op must be 100% on the up-and-up. Every T crossed and i dotted
Think of them as actual cops, minus the arrest / charging powers. The cops don't start whaling on the preds they sting, unless of course they assault the cops.. but even that only results in lawful takedown techniques, tazors or mace, and deadly force if the suspect pulls a weapon. (in this situation of course, the ameatures have lawful deadly force to protect their lives, as anybody would)
So the pred hunters need to also act lawfully to have the best results
Actually, that was a great explanation. Thank you.
yw<3
I don't think making a mess of that store and forcing the employees to clean it up was a very considerate move, although I do agree that pedo scum are the worst and need punishment.. I'd like to see what happened after this interaction.
DA files assault charges on the two perps that roughed up the Pedo. The two guys start crying because they will be drained financially. A better way would be film the interaction (without violence) and post all over the interweb - send to his family, friends and work. Screen shot the Pedo conversation with the child - work smarter not harder
Meh, I prefer street justice, especially when the courts have proven themselves incompetent. This guy will very likely never even look at a minor again.
That's how you end up destroying a country. If we abandon "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" we have basically abandoned the Constitution.
No matter how bad you want it, don't. Let them be prosecuted and put in jail, THEN let them face their ass beatings, behind bars...
If crooked courts don't put him away, we should shine a light on them and get the crooks out of the legal system. Tall order? Yeah, but critically important.
Tall order that may not be fulfilled. Correctional facilities breed more criminals. He can also file for PC, which most pedos do once behind bars. I think he was proven guilty, when these two guys came with receipts. IMO, this was the best form of rehabilitation.
Tbh they could file this under Crimes of Passion doctrine.... but you didn't hear that from me!
Is this true? Charges were filed against the 2? Any way I can look that up? If that's what happened to them, devastating outcome, especially for the dude filming. I don't think he broke any laws. Dr. Pepper dude, different story.
I was role playing. A 🐸 posted what do you think will happen with this. I simply put it in a Liberal context and suggested likely outcome.
Ah. Gotcha. Whew! Thx Irishman!
👍🏻☘️
He’s a Dr, I trust his judgment.
I’d be happy to - got a great story when I get home after a long day of easy retail.
I know vigilante justice is condoned, but sometimes it is a beautiful thing to see.
P.S. Dr. Pepper shirt dude was constantly laying in waiting at all the right places. Ped0 scum's every turn and Dr. Pepper was there to strike.
Bet ped0 suffers panic attacks the rest of his life every time he sees a bottle of Dr. P!
Anyone else sick and tired of tags that have "Watch to the very end" on them? Sick Pedo, I want to know what is in his pockets too.
That pedo must have thought the dude in the Dr Pepper shirt was Savoir Faire.
He was everywhere.....
I condone these actions. This is how people learn. Shaming them don't do shit but he will relive this for the rest of his days. I hope these guys cleaned up that store and paid any damages. They will go to jail but at least someone is doing something to these faggots
Crackpipe, I remember reading years ago that with pedophiles one can solve this with the death penalty or life imprisonment.
Once a person is with a kid, there is no going back. They will always want kids. It's like when a dog bites a human.
You're right. There is no fixing these types
They just handed this creep a "get out of jail free" card. Instead of being arrested and charged for solicitation of a fake 13 y.o., now he's free to molest real kids. If this ever did get in the hands of LEA, the roid rage asshole in the Dr. Pepper shirt will go up for aggravated assault and the creep will go free.
I doubt he would've been arrested and much less prosecuted. Justice was served
Applause!!
If you are going to do this, don't film it fools. He may be a predator but you are guilty of aggravated battery. You lured him there to beat him. If you caught him in the act different story. He will be free to hurt some kid and you will be in prison. Smarten up.
When the Charivari, or rough music, plays loud, the end is never pleasant.
This, although satisfying to most of us to see happen to a predator, isn't truly justice as the legal system will hit both sides for violating the law. It also was foolish to do it in a supermarket.
They had to beat him outside, until his face was disfigured, then tie him to a post and use spray to write "pedo, call the police" on his chest.
That was amazing, like 30 years of justice taking place.
Hopefully America sets the standard for ridding abortion and pedophiles. This is actually mild, Christ said that it would be better to have a millstone around your neck and sink the bottom of the sea.
So I wonder what the Creator has in mind, if that is the better option. Just think about it.
Baby raping and killing pedos are the highest form of evil on earth.
Nothing is worse.
love love love! We need this!!!!
No blood...but I like it.
that dude cant punch worth a shit.
I just don't get why they would film themselves doing it. They must know the pedo will be freed and they will be charged...?