Two things…some of you may remember that we had two, 8 mo old Labrador pups that got Parvo. By the time we could find a vet that would take us (two days later and 3 hours away), it was too late for one pup who bled out and died in the garage three days after the vet appt.
The surviving pup, now 16 months is showing the same symptoms…again. He’s been throwing up all night and it looks like there may be blood. We were told he had immunity for life after surviving it. Going to get tested today. Please pray that this test is negative.
And prayers for me. Got an infection in Jan that was hard to knock down. Was on antibiotics for 4 weeks, then two more weeks. Then again a few months later. I’m still in pain, ongoing 8 months. Not to mention, all those antibiotics have messed my system up something fierce. (Small town dr’s are not up to snuff, imo.). Please pray that I find the right doctor, a correct diagnosis and healing.
Frankly, I’m exhausted. Thanks, frogs.
Holy Father, please bless our Fren and the pup with revigoration, serenity and heartwarming felicity. May the right specialists be inspired and focussed to quickly diagnose and heal them.🙏🏻
T/u.
Dear God,
🕊 Please Bless & Protect MudPuddlePie and his dog through this trying period. May his doctor and the vet be guided by your divine wisdom in their assessments, rationale, intervention and skill for the best outcome possible.
Amen
T/u.
Wait, what did the vet give them? Because most vets are as much servants of Big Pharma as human doctors. Parvo isn't much more real than COVID, so it sounds very much to me like your poor babies were poisoned, once before the vet and again as soon as you got there....
And are you 100% sure they were giving you "antibiotics"? and not the vax or God-knows-what? Were they spiritually trained? If it was a good medicine, why aren't you better? Why are you getting worse?
Doctors don't know half as much as they arrogantly think they know. I'm telling you, doctors will kill you if you let them. The worst thing that you can do is blindly trust a doctor, just taking whatever prescription drugs that he gives you, without at least reading online about what you are putting into your mouth. It could kill you.
Yes, I’m aware. There were no other options.
And yes, parvo is real.
Are you sure? Because there are always spiritual options, like hydroxychlorine or ivermectin, or just good old fashioned prayer... better than taking these kind of risks, anyway.
Sorry, I put it badly. Of course Parvo exists, but not caused by a virus which has never even been seen, but by something else entirely- there are many possible explanations, but no-one really knows.
The prevailing belief is that people (or animals) get sick because of germs. This is the Germ Theory. It states that we are surrounded by germs at all times and must do our best to protect ourselves from them. We do this by washing our hands every time we cough, refraining from eating a carrot that falls on the floor and stays there for longer than the “5 second rule”, and by keeping an aseptic environment. According to the Germ Theory, and it’s founder Louis Pasteur, if we don’t do these things, we will get sick, “catch a cold”, or “catch the flu”.
Germ Theory is false. This is not my epiphany, it was actually advocated by Louis Pasteur’s contemporary and scientific arch-rival, Antoine Bechamp.
Bechamp championed (pun intended) the Terrain Theory. The Terrain Theory promotes the idea that it is not germs that make us sick, it is a weak and susceptible body ecology (or internal environment) that causes us to “get sick”. In other words, germs don’t cause sickness, poor living does. It is a poor lifestyle in terms of physical activity levels, nutritional choices, emotional states, and nervous system coordination and integration of these things that allow us to “get sick”.
Years ago, Louis Pasteur “discovered” the “germ theory,” and the rest is history! The gist of the theory? That germs cause disease and that exposure to germs makes a person sick. What matters is the presence of germs – they cause disease – it’s just that simple— and it’s just that wrong! Staying healthy naturally doesn’t mean sanitizing your hands constantly!
Even on his deathbed, Pasteur stated that it was not germs that caused diseases, but rather the environment (body) in which the germs were found that contributed to the cause of disease. In other words – there had to be fertile soil for a germ “seed” to grow and manifest into a disease.
Parents today are starting to understand that children need exposure to germs to gain appropriate, natural immunity. In fact, many believe that the increase in childhood allergies and asthma may actually be a by-product of our over-sanitization by “germophobic” parents!
When we give antibiotics that only attack the symptoms of disease, we are actually fighting the body’s natural lines of defense, and making it harder for our children to heal properly. When we allow our children’s bodies to heal themselves, we enable them to become more resilient and far more capable of resisting the onslaught of germs in the future.
So— what we need to focus on is keeping our children’s immune systems functioning properly so germs don’t find a willing host in which to thrive. As parents, we do this by encouraging proper nutrition, sleep, exercise and optimal nerve supply to the immune system with regular chiropractic care. Only then can we truly move forward, past the flawed germ “theory” to a state of true health and wellness.
You see, as the Germ Theory advocates, there are germs around us all the time. But if the Germ Theory were true, we’d be sick all the time, regardless of our attempts to maintain an aseptic environment (see hospitals where superbugs like MRSA run rampant for proof). I don’t know about you, but my family and I are rarely sick. I don’t know anyone who is literally sick all the time. By simple observation, the Germ Theory is false.
Let’s dig deeper though. When is “cold and flu season”? In the winter. When do you typically exercise the least, eat the poorest, and get most sullen? In the winter! Add to that the fact that the winter is the time of year when you get the least Vitamin D from the sun (a KEY immune system booster), and these 4 ingredients add up to a sub-optimally performing nervous system and an internal environment that is in a very weakened state. The perfect situation for an opportunistic germ to invade and seemingly cause you to be sick.
It isn’t the germ that makes you sick, it is the poor lifestyle leading to the poor terrain that makes you sick. I get adjusted regularly, I exercise daily, I eat the Innate Diet, and I have positive, healthy internal dialogue. I haven’t had the flu in over 8 years. Any sniffle or cold I develop is gone in 2-3 days. My terrain is solid. Germs can try all they want, I don’t believe in the Germ Theory.
Do you?
Eat more boogers !
LMAO exactly! I have a working immune system
I've had Lyme disease twice and Ehrlichiosis twice, so "germ theory" is definitely real! They aren't viral, so perhaps the alternative theory to why people get various illnesses, when it comes to viral infections, may have some validity, but chicken pox is a virus, and most people have had that, so I don't know what evidence is out for "terrain theory", but there is plenty to support "germ theory".
Ah, but how do you know they were caused by "germs?" What is the evidence, really? If it's just some athetits "scientist" saying so, color me skeptical. It's just blind adherence to Darwiniac Pasteurism, ignoring their deathbed recantations
People used to take their children to houses where another kid had chicken pox so their children could get it when young (not dangerous then). Viral illnesses are totally documented; you can look up scanning electron microscopic photos of the viruses if you want. I agree that the vaccination industry is corrupt, but there are known viruses, and bacteria, that cause well-documented infections. It's simple science.
It is not germs that make us sick, it is a weak and susceptible bodies. Chicken pox parties work because it's an act of faith and rejection of the vax
Both can be true. An amazingly healthy body, that utilizes proper nutrition with adequate (Gov doesn't offer up adequate levels on labels IMO) levels of vitamins & minerals is incredibly difficult to create disease in.
That said, there certainly could be harmful bacterias, parasites, and viruses (with IIRC is the smallest of parasites according to Merck sales & research manuals that were shared on this forum a while back) can exist & cause disease.
Ultimately I think we can all agree that keeping the body, mind, soul & heart/emotions strong is vital to good health. Chiropractics is a fantastic way to improve & maintain health. IIRC even up until the late 80s chiropractors in Ohio were taking the same board examinations as allopathic doctors in the same room (according to a chiropractor, I love to use, that took their tests in Ohio).
Also there are some amazing medicines out there such as Ivermectin. Many others are just causing more problems than they are worth. While most infections I have are able to be treated with Lavender, Oregano, & Tea Tree oils along with Garlic, occasionally there comes along an infection that Muprocin ointment or amoxicillin is needed to remove.
I had a doctor/nurse I trusted with some reoccurring infections that gave me way too many antibiotics over a couple years & wrecked havoc to my gut biome. Still trying to get it fixed properly so my normal health returns.
Ultimately there is a proper tool for everything that needs to be fixed and, at least in my opinion, refusal to equip yourself with every tool that we can is simply poor stewardship.
Keep up on your good health protocol, it works well.
I believe in parasite theory. MMS Ivermectin Fenbendezole Oregano oil Bentonite clay
There's so much nonsense about MMS in the MSM (coincidence?!). First of all MMS in not Clorox Bleach and any one with a basic knowledge of chemistry would know that! Bleach = Sodium hypochlorite NaOCl and MMS = Sodium chlorite NaClO2 which are chemically not the same. The real truth is that Big Pharma can not make big money on MMS so they don't want the public to know about it, because they will be loosing so much money. My nephew had really bad autism, he was given 7 immunization shots in one day at a pediatric clinic and had a really bad fever and pain for many days as a result of it. He was diagnosed with autism shortly after that, after much research we found out about MMS. My father used it first as a guinea pig, he was taking a bunch of meds at the time for high blood pressure and other things. After those 6 months he was able to stop taking those medications and his blood pressure has remained stable at normal. He then decided to give it to my nephew, they started him off with very light doses, and I was a skeptic myself, but wow as time passed by I did see a positive difference in my nephew, he understood more, behaved better, became more attentive. After a year or so he has improved very much and my father still takes MMS to this day, and he just turned 70 and feels better than a lot of people that are much younger than him. I seen it with my own eyes MMS works!!?
Dear Lord, Please hear the prayers we offer for our friend and bring healing to them and the pet they love. Give them your gifts of peace and comfort and bless them Lord for they are in need at this time. We ask this in Jesus' name. Amen.
T/u.
Prayers on the way.
Try ivermectin. It seams to work on everything....l
Great idea! T/u.
Prayers sent. Bless you and your pup.
T/u.
Prayers for you and beautiful pup.
T/u.
Get some saline in them even if just under the skin. I've seen a few dogs get parvo after being infected and treated and vaxxed previously. Once they get over two years it won't really be a problem. Keep them hydrated and let them eat whatever they will. Just not too much at a time. And wash your hands.
We had a lot of luck with broth and something that was sweet in a tube but can't remember it. Praying for y'all. Read this https://todaysveterinarynurse.com/nutrition/how-and-why-to-feed-canine-parvovirus-patients-right-away/
Yup, did the saline iv under the skin and mouth syringe. Was up for 5 days with the two of them. Thx for the link and prayers.
You're welcome. We used this when they were too sick to want to eat https://www.chewy.com/vetoquinol-nutri-cal-gel-high-calorie/dp/109764?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12195565633&utm_content=115868951686&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9pOXue3ZiAMVUHR_AB1NfwImEAQYASABEgJtU_D_BwE
T/u. Will look into it.
prayers sent for you and the pup
T/u.
Prayers for you and your poppers. May the Lord give the doctors guidance and wisdom so that they can successfully treat you both. Fren, are you taking probiotics while on the antibiotics? I know doctors stopped telling their patients to do that so it's easy to forget unless we have a good pharmacist who reminds us. Praying for good outcomes for you and your sweet pup.
Yes, t/u.
Prayers for you and your family.
T/u.
My prayers go out to you and your pup. I've had good results curing infection by taking Oil of Oregano. It is comparable to antibiotics. I took 4-150 mg softgels per day when I had a UTI and it worked.
Great idea, t/u!
Prayers up 🙏
T/u.
Does your dog have a runny loose stool yet? Or is throwing up throwing up the only symptom? Is the dog lethargic also?
Find a naturopathic / holistic / functional medicine doctor or someone in your area that has a natural remedy for infections to clear up your issues.
This is such a rough time for all of this. I am sorry this is happening.
Hey CC. Throwing up with what looks like blood flakes. Not food vomit anymore, but slimy like last time. Runny poop. Lethargic, worse yesterday. A little better today but sleeping a lot.
I do have a Naturopath here. He’s good but expensive. I’m bleeding money on drs and now vets (trying to get him tested but no luck yet). 🤬 May have to drive to Vegas again.
Thank you. Everyone I know is going thru really big trials rn. Hope all is well with you and yours.
I am so sorry. Hopefully, he has built up some tolerance to it this time. I know you know what to do. Sleeping is good, it allows his body to fight the infection.
Alternative medicine is very expensive. I have a lady here that does her own herbal tinctures. She is has a small homestead. I will message you her name and the name of her homestead.
I think the trials are relative to what is going on in the world around us. I am doing well-ish.
T/u, CC. Agree that we may have a bumpy road ahead. I will post an update this evening. And t/u for the info!!! Would love to have some natural options.
sending prayers for you and your pup! sorry for your loss of the one pup. that always hurts.
Ya, it was a horrible death. T/u.
Prayers going up for you and your family.
I can’t see much about the dog, but I can’t say that you should be taking some type of ivermectin or fenbendazole. Not at the same time though. Whenever I have some type of a mystery illness, I immediately start taking the ivermectin. I’ve been taking the fenben prophylactically.
Good idea. T/u.
Lord, MudPuddlePie is suffering in a way that seem only you understand. I pray that this is used tk make them stronger & point them in a direction that you have set to improve their life fowwing these events. Give them the strength to overcome these issues. Please help to heal their pup & give their body a better constitution & their mind the ability & knowledge to prevent ever falling into these infections again.
I pray for this, for our friend, in the name of your son, Jesus Christ.
T/u.
Dear God please look over MudPuddlePie and the innocent pups who need your help. Help them to recover and be healthy.
Amen.
T/u.
Prayed for you both! Keep us updated
T/u! Will do.
Dear God; You are the Great Physician and we need Your help. Please heal MudPuddlePie and his dog. Please do it thoroughly and quickly, as only You can do. In Jesus’ name we ask this. Amen.🙏
T/u!
Ivermectin and oregano oil I buy my ivermectin at the feed store Oil of oregano 600 mg a day Way more effective than rx Prayers sent
T/u. Will do.
Our loving Father in Heaven, Please help MudPuddlePies puppy and heal whatever ails it. Have him to wake up this morning as spry and frisky as if nothing was ever wrong with him. And bless our Friend too so that MPP gets a new doctor who can zero in on the problem and supply the right medication. We thank you Lord for all you do for us and for the loving caring spirit you possess when it comes to your children. Bless you Lord as we ask these things in Jesus name. Amen.
T/u!
Sending prayers up for you and your pup!
Praying for your pup an yourself MPP. 🙏🤍 I couldn't find anything online for your fur baby except Subcutaneous fluids and Amoxicillin.
Do you have a Naturopathic Doctor in your area? Take Vitamin D, C , Quercetin and Ivermectin.
Pray Psalm 91 over yourself and your pup daily. Please keep us updated...
T/u!
Always pray but been praying my guts out for months. Been praying Psalm 103. Really good too.
Ok... I'm SO sorry about your loss... it's heartbreaking I know. We just lost our kitty to cancer. We rescued her as a kitten 14 years ago in a downtown alley at our work building. She's never been outside since then and we expected her to have a long life because one of our cats lived to be 24.
I'm praying for you both daily and sending my love! 🙏😽
Please read below. It's the dehydration that kills with parvo. I was able to save two dogs without a veterinarian's help by using a turkey baster and forcing them to drink chicken broth or water. I squeezed the broth through their lips and clenched teeth hourly (and all through the night) until they recovered.
Parvo dehydration Parvovirus (Parvo) infection in dogs can lead to severe dehydration, a critical condition that requires immediate attention. Dehydration occurs when the body loses more fluids than it can absorb, causing an imbalance of electrolytes and fluids. In Parvo-infected dogs, dehydration is often a result of:
Severe vomiting and diarrhea: The virus causes intense gastrointestinal distress, leading to excessive fluid loss through vomiting and diarrhea. Intestinal damage: The virus destroys the lining of the intestines, allowing bacteria to leak into the bloodstream, further exacerbating dehydration. Inadequate fluid intake: Infected dogs may refuse food and water due to nausea and lethargy, worsening dehydration. Symptoms of Parvo Dehydration
Lethargy Decreased appetite Vomiting Diarrhea (often containing blood and mucus) Pale or blue-tinged gums Sunken eyes Decreased skin elasticity Rapid heart rate
God bless!!!
T/u…yes we did round the clock IV bags for both of them for 4 days (the first time). Plus syringes. It was brutal. Saved one…not the other.
I'm so sorry for your loss :(
T/u.