Elon: College = Overrated
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I tried college and it wasn't for me. Heck, I went to four different colleges and still couldn't find one that taught me how to do anything. Applied to the USPS for a 13 hour a week job and I took it when it was offered. I quit my entry level management job working 40+ hours a week for a part time government job. One year and three months later I applied for a postmasters position and I GOT IT because I planned to move up in the organization and got my ducks in a row. I retired when I was 57 and got a full pension, a nice 401K and Social Security. All of this without a college diploma hanging on my wall. It just a different way to get into management and I succeeded in it. More than one way to skin a cat.
Learn the trades! Everything from plumbing to mechanic all pay well and are almost recession proof jobs.
Can't be off shored
Now there is a high-paying job - plumber/mechanic on an off-shore oil rig.
For sure. I was wondering about those poor workers during Milton who live out there in the Gulf. Had to be scary AF.
I have to believe they only leave a skeleton crew during a hurricane. I would hope the rest were brought back to land before it hit.
Imagine being on an oil rig out in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico and it 0001 hrs and there is a klaxon horn blown and the following comes out:
"ATTENTION, ATTENTION, PLUMBER NEEDED ON DECK 3....SHITTER IS FULL."!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget Databases (any of them), web development,c# and C++ although C++ is used in networking, and development from front-end t0 backend!!!!!!!
AND a TWEEB doing the programming/database/database admin/web development/correcting errors...OOOOOH MY!!!!! Imagine what that would look like!!!!!
Talked with some of these types...THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THE ABOVE ENTAILS...I ask technical question(s) on usage of when/where something is used AND THE ANSWER IS: "I can just look it up on the INTERNET"!!!!!!!!
I told my bank yesterday that their website looked retarded and needed some fixes like taking out all the "goofy" crap like a FLOATING icon across the page(s)...I told the guy that people with cataracts won't be able to see the damn thing so why have it? He told me that the bank would contact me and let me test their system...when they made changes...
I agree, even though I have degrees and they paid off, if you start earning income 4 years before your peers and have no student loans, you are well ahead of the pack.
My 17 yo son has started his own business welding fuel transfer tanks. He's doing very well. My other boy is also successful in trades. Neither finished 9th grade both are smart enough to be engineers but prefer hard work.
My Grandfather was a Korean war vet and then physicist. He said, "if you just understand physics, you can get through a lot."
I have always found that to be true.
College ---- with your industry offshored ---- is useless.
Look back a few decades, women didn’t need to work.
Globalization is the root cause. Nothing is stopping The corporations from sending jobs overseas…
No jobs no economy. Isn’t it common sense basic economics
Hiring based on skin color is against the law and racist!
In other news we outsourced our department to India....
Only reason I’m currently in College is an aborted career in the trades made me realize I wasn’t particularly fond of it. Even then I’m looking to get my FAA Pt. 107 and try my hand at commercial drones via the courses at the college.
A question we should ask though. Is why a degree essentially became mandatory for so many fields. When it doesn’t even need to be a degree relevant to the work you’d actually be doing.
My Brother in law has a degree in psychology. He sells Pipes for a living. My Cousin also has a degree in Psychology and overseas a Warehouse and supply chain. I had a Manager with a Degree in History at my last job. He managed a retail store. My Dad had a degree in Computer Science. He managed Logistics for a Construction Company.
And then we load degree programs down with functionally useless classes. That would at best be something people could pursue on their own time if they had a desire. Like the Arts and like 60-70% of the humanities.
I’m told though it’s a requirement because it’ll show you have drive to see something through or some crap.
That's what one of my profs told us. It shows that we have the stamina, ability and desire to achieve a long term goal. What we learn wasn't as important.
Sounds more like someone trying to justify his Jobs existence.
Though I’d venture that belief is part of the problem. As frankly unless you’re the CEO or a Senior Executive.
You don’t set long term goals. Whether or not you can set and meet a goal isn’t up to you as the grunt or low/mid-ranking management. Someone else hire up the chain handles the goal setting.
And your desire to keep collecting a check and putting a roof over your head. Handles taking care of the desire to achieve whatever goal is set by the superiors.
And ability is something you frankly either have or don’t. What you learn doesn’t influence it heavily. You can have a dozen fancy degrees and still be a stagnant Middle-Manager. As people just have caps on much they can improve and excel in certain roles. And eventually they’ll hit a role where they might not be bad enough to justify firing. But they certainly aren’t good enough to justify promoting past it.
All the pieces of paper and theoretical knowledge and qualifications can’t fix that.
Griggs v. Duke Power Co
I’m grateful for my college degree because it was required for my career path, and it helped me leverage into a new and even better career path. But I went to an affordable public university in a LCOL place, chose a practical major in a field that is in very high demand, and kept a full course load so that I could graduate on time.
I have zero empathy for people who take out exorbitant amounts of money that they don’t have to attend expensive private universities in NYC or other HCOL places, major in some dumb shit like Gender Studies or fields with niche career paths, and then cry that they can’t find a job or afford their student loan payments. But instead of working a job to put themselves through school, they spent their free time marching for Palestine or whatever Leftist cause was trendy at the time.
But college definitely isn’t for everyone. Trades are a great choice for a lot of people
Understatement of the fkn century.
Let me try to explain what everyone is figuring out at their own speed! The Educational system is there just to indoctrinate us to be slaves, willingly! Teach them free will, teach them finance, teach them entrepreneurship, teach them and free them!
Going back to the moon too, visibly.