It's all about timing. Doge is coming...oh no...how can we stop it? Go after Elon and Vivek before they can damage us. Figure it out. Trust President Trump, Trust the plan.
Trust Sessions. Trust Wray. Trust Kansas. Trust Pence too while we're at it, right? If there is a plan that Ramaswamy and Musk are part of them a little bitching won't hurt them like their insults towards us aren't helping them.
I'm done taking insults and rules from unelected bureaucrats of any political stripe, even ours.
This 100%. There was always a point for the trust posts, but that doesn't actually mean those people and their actions are to be 100% trusted. Yet every step of the way with every one of these figures you had people shutting down any sort of backlash towards them.
How is Kansas seen around here these days? Look at his antics towards Trump, look at what came out about him and Assange. Yet here we are again down onto the next step with Vivek and Elon who don't even have posts to back them up, and yet people view them as untouchable and any sort of criticism thrown their way as unthinkable. Fuck right off.
Agree. I'm seeing a LOT of attacks even here on GAW on Elon and Vivek over this issue. If you look CAREFULLY at what they have said, it does make sense. But in the end, it's President Trump who will make the final recommendations and regulations.
Agree. And I have no problem hiring talented foreigners after they hire Americans. Looks to me like the system has been abused,just to get cheep labor.
Unfortunately it seems every system and or agency in this country has been abused, it al needs to be looked at and fixed. I hope that is exactly what will happen. That is why we are being awakened. I guess I should add Trust in God that he will restore this nation to greatness.
I think it's great that people on our side are making a stink about things we don't like. I hope it's a trend that grows yuge and if it causes division so be it.
Frankly, MAGA needs to be divided from the same-old same-old blind trust and cult of personalities that got us here. If not it won't be long until Trump is gone and everything goes right back to the deep state, and worse because MAGA won't even be a threat if we go along to get along now.
Debate is great, dissenting opinion is excellent. I personally feel there is room for improvement in our current American culture. That doesn't mean I support importing people for all of those positions. We are a great nation with great people but in many ways we have gotten off course (imo). We can call for improvement in education, a refocus of priorities and a call to greatness and still accept people from other countries to participate in the American dream.
Do other countries open their doors and let Americans in to participate in their dreams (war doesn't count)?
How much have they sent to us for hurricane relief? Flood relief? Are they selling us super cheap oil until our reserves are full again so we can use it to protect their sh!t? Don't try to sell me on this "other countries" baloney. We owe them nothing.
I say America and Americans first and no compromise.
I said "people" from other countries, not other countries. I'm not trying to sell anyone anything, I'm sharing an opinion. I agree Americans and America first, I would think most everyone on this sight would agree with that sentiment. If you are a good person from another country who believes in America and American values and you can contribute to America in a positive way WITHOUT pushing qualified Americans aside (like some DEI bullshit), I fail to see the issue.
To be clear, I completely disagree with the way in which Vivek and Elon have presented their opinions. Every effort should be made to place Americans in American jobs. We are not a sports team recruiting players, we are a great nation who should uplift it's own citizens before anyone else. But I don't support completely closed borders and zero immigration.
Vivek insulted the American people. It appears he has contempt and no respect for the Nation's people. He has made a fortune in this Country but that's not enough. Personally, I think the whole thing was a set-up. It also involves the woman who got her X account decertified. They want people to be afraid to speak about keeping America being a strong Christian Nation. Christians think long term in their design. Other Nation's think the next dollar and not a minute more. This is the type of thinking, you'll find with people who originate from 3rd World Nations. We need to think LONG TERM. That means bringing a higher quality of life back to the American People. Not to keep bringing people who will work for slave wages, then bring in their whole family to live off the system. So the greedy Corp makes a few extra dollars in the short term but the Nation (The People) have an added burden in the long term. You either fight to keep a strong Nation or you yield and be run over from every low buck profiteer on the Planet.
So now that you’re angry about foreigners taking citizens’ jobs because of “lack of talent” because of poor work ethic, what are you going to do about it, other than piss and moan? Are you going to insist on change in education and push STEM instead of league ball? Or do you subscribe to the idea of citizens first even if they’re not the best?
I'll bet that is exactly how the American Indians felt with the westward push taking their freedom and land by a duplicitous government. I agree H1B is being abused, however we need to fix our government first. My ancestors came here from Scotland, Germany and Ireland, and I thank God they did. i love this country. I don't agree with reverse DEI. Just because I am white or born here does not mean I am the best person for a job. I see both sides having worked in a hospital with a large East Indian and Filipino Nursing staff. Some were awesome, some were not.
You haven't seen what jobs are hiring with H1B have you. Qualified Americans lose jobs everyday to this program not because they are better than us, but because they are willing to work for slave's wages to get into this country.
So, fix the system, don’t throw away opportunities to get the very best. Revamp our educational system, push math and critical thinking, science for God’s sake, not this woke bullshit. Encourage and foster WORK ETHIC in the American culture again.
Yes obviously fix the system. But the whole problem is that those in charge of the system care more about cheap labor than american education and culture.
I agree with you on that. Hopefully this very loud debate sheds more light on both problems and both problems get fixed. I’m a retired high school science teacher. I can tell you that some of our students were the absolute best at math and science, competed at the state level in UIL and won in comp sci and science.They were absolute workers and the nicest kids you could ask for. That was at the end of my career. We used to have more kiddos like that at the beginning of my career, there was a 15-20 year period where students wanted the grades to get into college but they didn’t want to put in the work. We’re swinging back the other direction right now, but we still have a long way to go. I think both points are valid but we have to fix our education system too and that means parents aka society is going to have to start focusing on learning more and extracurricular activities aka sports and league ball a lot less. I can tell you that sports is what drove our entire academic schedule, who taught what and when, our bell schedule and even our school calendar, all based on sports. It was utter bs.
I wonder if this is why they are calling for reform and shining a light on this issue. The law as it stands now is hurting qualified Americans and that is unacceptable. There seems to be several different specifics to this but it's all being debated as a singular viewpoint
Vivek is a private citizen and is entitled to his opinion. He is not in charge and will be gone if he strays the wrong way, same for Elon or anyone else. I trust President Trump to make the right decisions. He is in charge and knows way more than we do. Trust Trump and trust the plan, we have come a long way, lets not start fighting among ourselves. They want us divided. You do not have to agree with everything that is done but there is a reason. We are all only human.
Vivek is potentially, soon to be responsible for helping reduce the Government system. This is a VERY public endeavour. I'd rather the task go to someone who loves the Nation and It's people, then work in a PRAGMATIC method.
So if Vivek insults us all he's entitled to his opinion, and if we take issue with the elites insulting us, we are stoking division? Yeah right. I'm with Framus on this, looks like we need more division, we are still infested with rats. Enough is enough. We are sold out by our own leaders for generations, we get replaced with foreign cheap labor in our own home, and told by immigrants here that we are stupid and retarded and no one wants to hire us. American's don't have an America to flee to, this is OUR HOME. We are pushed out and have no where to go. It's AMERICA FIRST and AMERICAN'S FIRST or it's nothing!!
Again, Elon and Vivek want the debate to be uncivil. Elon directly called everyone "subtards" and cognitively challenged. Along with Vivek saying America was lazy. Whether or not that is true, if you want to have a civil debate, you frame those arguments in a different way that isn't confrontational.
This is not about dividing us. This is some kind of white hat psyop where they are intentionally provoking us to elicit an emotional response.
It's all about timing. Doge is coming...oh no...how can we stop it? Go after Elon and Vivek before they can damage us. Figure it out. Trust President Trump, Trust the plan.
👆👆👆👆👆 This.
Trust Sessions. Trust Wray. Trust Kansas. Trust Pence too while we're at it, right? If there is a plan that Ramaswamy and Musk are part of them a little bitching won't hurt them like their insults towards us aren't helping them.
I'm done taking insults and rules from unelected bureaucrats of any political stripe, even ours.
dont take insults from elected officials either! Its even worse imo
At least you can post a little bitching here without your account being banned or demonetized kek
That's for sure.
This 100%. There was always a point for the trust posts, but that doesn't actually mean those people and their actions are to be 100% trusted. Yet every step of the way with every one of these figures you had people shutting down any sort of backlash towards them.
How is Kansas seen around here these days? Look at his antics towards Trump, look at what came out about him and Assange. Yet here we are again down onto the next step with Vivek and Elon who don't even have posts to back them up, and yet people view them as untouchable and any sort of criticism thrown their way as unthinkable. Fuck right off.
DOGE can't regulate anything. They are only advisory.
I would agree if that were how things actually happened. Instead this all started with Elon and Vivek themselves.
Agree. I'm seeing a LOT of attacks even here on GAW on Elon and Vivek over this issue. If you look CAREFULLY at what they have said, it does make sense. But in the end, it's President Trump who will make the final recommendations and regulations.
Amen.
You do that on purpose, I like it... anon & amen...
Can I get a Anen!
Agree. And I have no problem hiring talented foreigners after they hire Americans. Looks to me like the system has been abused,just to get cheep labor.
Unfortunately it seems every system and or agency in this country has been abused, it al needs to be looked at and fixed. I hope that is exactly what will happen. That is why we are being awakened. I guess I should add Trust in God that he will restore this nation to greatness.
Too bad Elon's company is guilty of abuse as well.
I think it's great that people on our side are making a stink about things we don't like. I hope it's a trend that grows yuge and if it causes division so be it.
Frankly, MAGA needs to be divided from the same-old same-old blind trust and cult of personalities that got us here. If not it won't be long until Trump is gone and everything goes right back to the deep state, and worse because MAGA won't even be a threat if we go along to get along now.
Debate is great, dissenting opinion is excellent. I personally feel there is room for improvement in our current American culture. That doesn't mean I support importing people for all of those positions. We are a great nation with great people but in many ways we have gotten off course (imo). We can call for improvement in education, a refocus of priorities and a call to greatness and still accept people from other countries to participate in the American dream.
Do other countries open their doors and let Americans in to participate in their dreams (war doesn't count)?
How much have they sent to us for hurricane relief? Flood relief? Are they selling us super cheap oil until our reserves are full again so we can use it to protect their sh!t? Don't try to sell me on this "other countries" baloney. We owe them nothing.
I say America and Americans first and no compromise.
I said "people" from other countries, not other countries. I'm not trying to sell anyone anything, I'm sharing an opinion. I agree Americans and America first, I would think most everyone on this sight would agree with that sentiment. If you are a good person from another country who believes in America and American values and you can contribute to America in a positive way WITHOUT pushing qualified Americans aside (like some DEI bullshit), I fail to see the issue.
To be clear, I completely disagree with the way in which Vivek and Elon have presented their opinions. Every effort should be made to place Americans in American jobs. We are not a sports team recruiting players, we are a great nation who should uplift it's own citizens before anyone else. But I don't support completely closed borders and zero immigration.
no more soft power and global hegemony!
These are reactions not well thought out objections. There is a difference. If they had thought it through the vitriol wouldnt be so intense.
Vivek insulted the American people. It appears he has contempt and no respect for the Nation's people. He has made a fortune in this Country but that's not enough. Personally, I think the whole thing was a set-up. It also involves the woman who got her X account decertified. They want people to be afraid to speak about keeping America being a strong Christian Nation. Christians think long term in their design. Other Nation's think the next dollar and not a minute more. This is the type of thinking, you'll find with people who originate from 3rd World Nations. We need to think LONG TERM. That means bringing a higher quality of life back to the American People. Not to keep bringing people who will work for slave wages, then bring in their whole family to live off the system. So the greedy Corp makes a few extra dollars in the short term but the Nation (The People) have an added burden in the long term. You either fight to keep a strong Nation or you yield and be run over from every low buck profiteer on the Planet.
So now that you’re angry about foreigners taking citizens’ jobs because of “lack of talent” because of poor work ethic, what are you going to do about it, other than piss and moan? Are you going to insist on change in education and push STEM instead of league ball? Or do you subscribe to the idea of citizens first even if they’re not the best?
I'll bet that is exactly how the American Indians felt with the westward push taking their freedom and land by a duplicitous government. I agree H1B is being abused, however we need to fix our government first. My ancestors came here from Scotland, Germany and Ireland, and I thank God they did. i love this country. I don't agree with reverse DEI. Just because I am white or born here does not mean I am the best person for a job. I see both sides having worked in a hospital with a large East Indian and Filipino Nursing staff. Some were awesome, some were not.
You haven't seen what jobs are hiring with H1B have you. Qualified Americans lose jobs everyday to this program not because they are better than us, but because they are willing to work for slave's wages to get into this country.
So, fix the system, don’t throw away opportunities to get the very best. Revamp our educational system, push math and critical thinking, science for God’s sake, not this woke bullshit. Encourage and foster WORK ETHIC in the American culture again.
Yes obviously fix the system. But the whole problem is that those in charge of the system care more about cheap labor than american education and culture.
I agree with you on that. Hopefully this very loud debate sheds more light on both problems and both problems get fixed. I’m a retired high school science teacher. I can tell you that some of our students were the absolute best at math and science, competed at the state level in UIL and won in comp sci and science.They were absolute workers and the nicest kids you could ask for. That was at the end of my career. We used to have more kiddos like that at the beginning of my career, there was a 15-20 year period where students wanted the grades to get into college but they didn’t want to put in the work. We’re swinging back the other direction right now, but we still have a long way to go. I think both points are valid but we have to fix our education system too and that means parents aka society is going to have to start focusing on learning more and extracurricular activities aka sports and league ball a lot less. I can tell you that sports is what drove our entire academic schedule, who taught what and when, our bell schedule and even our school calendar, all based on sports. It was utter bs.
I agree that that’s a problem that needs to be fixed. Hopefully this very loud debate sheds a light on this problem and it gets fixed.
I wonder if this is why they are calling for reform and shining a light on this issue. The law as it stands now is hurting qualified Americans and that is unacceptable. There seems to be several different specifics to this but it's all being debated as a singular viewpoint
Vivek is a private citizen and is entitled to his opinion. He is not in charge and will be gone if he strays the wrong way, same for Elon or anyone else. I trust President Trump to make the right decisions. He is in charge and knows way more than we do. Trust Trump and trust the plan, we have come a long way, lets not start fighting among ourselves. They want us divided. You do not have to agree with everything that is done but there is a reason. We are all only human.
Vivek is potentially, soon to be responsible for helping reduce the Government system. This is a VERY public endeavour. I'd rather the task go to someone who loves the Nation and It's people, then work in a PRAGMATIC method.
So if Vivek insults us all he's entitled to his opinion, and if we take issue with the elites insulting us, we are stoking division? Yeah right. I'm with Framus on this, looks like we need more division, we are still infested with rats. Enough is enough. We are sold out by our own leaders for generations, we get replaced with foreign cheap labor in our own home, and told by immigrants here that we are stupid and retarded and no one wants to hire us. American's don't have an America to flee to, this is OUR HOME. We are pushed out and have no where to go. It's AMERICA FIRST and AMERICAN'S FIRST or it's nothing!!
Many of you are some fickle ass ANONS for sure.
Again, Elon and Vivek want the debate to be uncivil. Elon directly called everyone "subtards" and cognitively challenged. Along with Vivek saying America was lazy. Whether or not that is true, if you want to have a civil debate, you frame those arguments in a different way that isn't confrontational.
This is not about dividing us. This is some kind of white hat psyop where they are intentionally provoking us to elicit an emotional response.
love being tricked and coerced for my own good by people that know better. wait. no i dont.
Thank you.
This is becoming tiring.
https://youtu.be/9K-xN8WT_DQ?si=JKlE0p8xfVxtU6R9
Donaldo is trolling 😂
Oh this is good!
Well said and thank you for pointing out the obvious. I personaly think it's all meant to flush out something the general public aint seen yet.
And people get mad at me when I say Racism is a Scam.
Defenders will say "It's just natural".
Yeah...
Then why does it cause more problems than good?
Peoples sho is stoopid.
The key takeaway, they aren’t in charge!