Every leader has a chink in his armor, and we're seeing them in both Musk and Trump.
Musk effectively answered the white hat question this past week, first by insulting the intelligence of those who see the debate differently, and then by de-platforming Lara Loomer on X. John Galt, he ain't, Folks.
Of course, Trump is personally satisfied w/ H-1B. It helped him to accumulate his great wealth. But if Trump wants to appear as less of a hypocrite and less out of touch than Musk, he's going to have to fall on his sword and abolish H-1B.
Do you see another way?
It’s really turned into a shitshow. I’ve logged off X for now and will come back there on Jan 20 to watch Trump’s Inauguration. Bunch of fucking Tech Bro Billionaires telling me I’m racist just because I want to protect American workers.
Rugged pulled my vote on Nov 5 huh?…..yeah, thanks for nothing!
You and me both. They are telling me I'm wrong for not wanting more H1B visas to come in and for us to focus on Americans first to find jobs before the greedy fuckers get their hands on our jobs.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry. I've been unemployed for a very, very long time and I'm sick and tired of it. I want to work. I need to work! Let me work please! I need to secure my future for my family and myself before it's too late! I have the right to be greedy here because those red dot idiots have been enjoying the great life at my expense!
Love you bro. I understand.
The people on this site calling it “small peanuts” or a “wedge pushed by shills”. Are fucking disgusting and quite frankly stupid.
They must live in a cave. This is a hill I am going to die on. American people and culture first. End of story.
Right on!
Completely understand your frustration - any chance of starting your own small business?
Yup. I took a break from GA but am now back after this X controversy. Pulling blue check marks from people questioning the narrative really made me raise an eyebrow.
Just enforce H- 1b as it's written. Honestly use it for jobs that we can't fill with Americans at a decent wage.
Using it to enslave cheep labor is bullshit.
Far better, I think, to abolish it, and pour resources into targeting college students who have engineering chops but haven't yet declared a major to tell them: you now have a seat at the table.
Good people with degrees in demand don't want to move to commie shitholes.
Their was a time when people were eager to move to California and even San Francisco.....
Now days,not so much.
Biden rolled back all of the reforms that Trump enacted the first time. I'm sure Trump will enact even more reforms seeing the amount of abuse that's taking place. H-1B won't be abolished because there aren't the votes in Congress to do it.
Don't believe what NYPost said regarding Trump. Until we hear it from his own mouth or his TS page, NYP is full of it.
I respectfully disagree about NYP. They broke the Hunter laptop story. In my book, there are few w/ more credibility than the Post.
Controlled oppo, imho, respectfully.
Listen to his comments on Rogan. NYP is correct, this is a psyop by the way to force the msm to cover how Trump supports legal immigration before mass deportation starts. Just sit back and watch. Enjoy the show
Respectfully disagree. Trump came out publicly in favor last week, citing his personal benefit of H-1B as to why.
When have you ever seen him, in the midst of a dustup inside the ranks, clearly state his favor or opposition of a thing, only to turn 180 degrees later as though he always meant to do so?
I'm in IT and waking up a few days ago to this debate was the first time in my life I felt my career was going to end soon. My first job was AOL tech support and I worked my way up with school, certs, and experience just to get pushed out of this field. (as a woman, mind you.. Oh yeah I'll play that card)
My husband, also in IT, hasn't had much work the past few years. We hope that will change soon. But hell, we both are looking at our careers ending with this debate.
Your comment is off base.
Biden rolled back reforms that Trump put in place.
I see the Deep State is winning this psyops.
kayfabe. people don't pay attention without the drama, gotta have a fight to get the eyeballs. does no one remember this lesson from Trump's first term?
I don’t remember Elon being in the mix during Trump’s first term.
he wasn't. the tactic was.
They'll come around. How many times before this, during Trump's first term, did he say something seemingly off the wall and so outlandish that it drew a spotlight, only to then pivot toward what The People want? This time is no exception. Just sit back and enjoy the fireworks show.
Trump likes the pressure and the debates. I like it when he proves me wrong..
I don't know why O1 isn't being debated. What Elon wants already exists in the O1 pathway. He doesn't need the H1B.
Also, H1B is opposed by Trump.
Not as of today. He come out today and voiced support for the Elon. Completely against his promises and MAGA in general
I’m not going down this sewer hole
This is the hill you MFers want to die on? H-1B? There are about 999 problems in this country with higher priority. Let the man do his job and sit your ass down. FFS
It begins with protecting your borders. Every other nation protects their borders and their economy. Get smart. We gonna protect our people and the thieves are not gonna like it.
You write as though Trump's administration can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
We're to believe he can end the War in Ukraine, close the southern border, fix the economy, destroy the Deep State and everything else, but he can't address a tiny thing like H-1B?
Doesn't pass the smell test.
Totally agree and it's way deeper than he presented it. Sounded like a bad shill
America First is what brought about the landslide.
INFINITY DOOT RIGHT THERE.
I am not worthy.. but thank you anyway.
At its core, H-1B provides powerful corporations and wealthy families enormous cost-savings. And every major stockholder and every member of those wealthy families profit as a result.
Who doesn't profit? The American citizen whose job was given away to foreigners.
Anyone who is for H-1B should spend just two hours of their precious time talking with Americans who went to college for good paying jobs, only to have their own nation commit institutional betrayal on their sorry ass.
https://dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/institutionalbetrayal/
I remember when you could call Customer service and spoke with an American. not so much now.
A random genius dude came on here and call President Trump a hypocrite. Have you seen anything at all, the movie, the plan, the show? Are you a troll? At your level, whatever the hell it is, you shut up, and you watch what's being shown to the public. You, out of all people are not smarter than any of the people are dealing with the swamp. YOU, SUPPORT everything come out of Trump. That's simple.
Dude. Dial down the fire. I love Trump, but the guy is not infallible, and he's not my king.
I didn't call him a hypocrite. I said he needs to re-evaluate and change his mind so that he doesn't become one. I support him on just about every topic but H-1B.
Hell, just eight years ago, he felt just as Steve Bannon, Darren Beattie, Dave Brat, Mark Krikorian, Jack Posobiac, Raheem Kassam, many other anons, and I do:
https://www.vox.com/2016/3/4/11586706/donald-trump-trashes-h-1b-visa-abuse-clarifying-position-after-debate
nothing wrong with what you say.
How about you stop telling the man who will save your life how to do his job. He knows how to do it better than you.
H-1B is for highly skilled workers. If those workers are not available in the country then you have to bring it in from outside. If not your country wont make it.
Have you looked at most Americans today. Lazy, Fat, Useless. Yes there are also skilled American workers but not any where close to the amount they need.
So stop acting like you know so much when you dont.
https://x.com/VucaLuna/status/1872753563514093817
These are not "Highly skilled workers" retard
H1Bs are just cheap labor, O-1 visas are for top of the line people.
Lazy, fat, and useless, you say? You must not be from around here. Thanks. Now we know.
Here in Oklahoma workers have a good work ethic,and many other red states are probably the same. I doubt it's the same in commie shitholes.
black and white. simple.
Yes many Americans are lazy fat and useless. Havent you been paying attention?
One look at your 3 year old account confirms that you havent been paying attention at all.
Anon my ass...Its you that aint from around here.
No you've not been paying attention at all. There are many reasons why there are lazy, fat and "useless" Americans.
Food for example, they have a lot of chemicals in it that lead to increase in starvation and desire for more sugar and junk food. Forever chemicals also lead to cancer and many more.
Oh and let's not forget how much the government hate us Americans, they've been abusing our morale, to the point where we feel it's not worth going on because there are apparently "better" people to do the job in the form of DEI hires and H1B visa hires.
Oh yeah, plus there's the shitty education that many schools are using with Common Core and passing a lot of lower class students in impoverished areas in the city. You get a "D"? No problem! You pass! Illiteracy for both reading, writing and math, is on the rise, thanks to poor education and the constant need to be on their phone all the time doing dumb Tik Tok dances.
The many issues on how Americans have gotten fat, lazy and "useless" are exactly what President Trump want to address in the next 4 years with the assistance of RFK Jr, Linda McMahon, Lee Zeldin, et al. President Trump knows America is on a huge decline, the worst ever, and he's here to fix all of the problems so we all will have a better tomorrow.
They're not fat, lazy and "useless" because they want to, they got to that point because of the stupid government poisoning Americans from the inside out with many elements.
Take me for example, I'm a college graduate with several certifications to boost my skills. I haven't found a job in I.T. ever since graduating from college over 20 years ago. I applied to over 5,000 jobs since then. After 10 or so years, I've stopped trying because I've only gone on like 3 or 4 interviews since then. Can you think how much that does to my morale? Since then, my motivation has taken a blow. But I still want to work. I know I need to work. Also I've been in great shape my whole life and I have been eating the same amount of food. In the last 10 or so years, I've gained weight, despite eating the same amount of food and the same kind of food with some "junk" here and there. I still try to keep in shape but I noticed it's getting harder and harder to lose weight. It's obvious the government have done some shit to our food and obviously they've dealt a huge blow to my morale by making me lose motivation as the days go by.
You may say I'm one of those lazy, fat and useless Americans, but because of the shit I dealt with in life, more or less than any other fat, lazy and useless American, I've become like this due to everything not being America First. President Trump's vision for America's future is exactly why I voted for him because this is the same future I want for myself and my family as well as every other Americans. It's more of exactly what we need right now. If we don't secure our future, then all is lost forever for everyone, you including and you will soon become a fat, lazy and useless idiot while the H1B visa red dot idiots laugh at you cuz they took your job for pennies.
Hope this helps you fix your retardation. If not, then you're a lost cause.
Rock on American.
When someone thinks one person is gonna "fix everything" in a country, they need to take less IT classes and more history ones. Also, you sound full of hate. Also metabolism slows down when you get older. Less IT. More reading books!
Yes of course Im aware there are reasons. Musk is clearly in Trumps inner circle so probably much more aware of the reasons then we are. He would also be aware of the technological golden age which is coming (hidden tech being released).
Like you said it will take many years for the country to recover. In the meantime, do you not realize that China will be full steam ahead trying to surpass us in the tech/engineering world? Just look at the car industry for your answer there.
You think the lazy useless gender studies uni grads will be able to develop all the soon to be released tech like flying cars and free energy? You think China wont be putting their best of the best to work developing their own tech as soon as it is released?
Musk isnt talking about low level IT jobs. He is talking about high level engineering... literally rocket scientists etc. Do you want local gender studies grads with zero clue making your flying car?
You can look at the public records for H1-B listings, even for Tesla, and see that there are many, way too many, low level positions for musk to have been honest about this. You need to see for yourself and accept that the visa program has been abused to hell and back.
because the country is so rich and the standard of living is so high. lotta people sure do wanna come here. must be alright.
You can search the H1-B listings for yourself and find the entry level positions for accountants, or the janitors and Chippendale dancers.
I wish I was half as naive as you. Come to Seattle and let my show you the errors of your thinking.
You've been brainwashed into thinking you are wise..
one doesnt need to be brainwashed to believe this. I can imagine if only two people, or even only one were alive, that they would have the same propensity for self bias.
Intellectual honesty demands that we vigorously debate topics like this. If there's one thing that mindless allegiance can't tolerate, it's the pursuit of intellectual honesty.
Amen