He did not say MAGA. It is America First and NOT America Only. I am surprised on how many on here are getting over dramatic about the whole thing. Gaslighting works still I guess.
But there should be a pyramid or checklist of priority issues..then it trickles down to -after we get everything else done- issues. Right now is just not the time.
Elon Musk is part of White hat team, so is Vivek. Trump's team is all we got.. is it really that important to cause in fighting right now? Aren't you tired? lol
Obviously this topic and the timing is planned from the start. Trust in Q's plan!
Elon, at best, is a pawn Trump is using. By no means is he a "white hat." I feel nothing but sadness for you that you cannot see that even if it was made so abundantly clear over the past 48 hours with his sperging session. Let alone with all the false promises and censorship he has condoned.
I don't disagree with you. I just think we need to wait till Jan 20th and trust in Q's plan.
DJT wouldn't let someone near his son or his grandkids for 2 months straight at Mar-la-largo unless something else is happening in the background. Everything has been discussed and intricately planned imo. Even the chaos is planned..and Elon is the dark MAGA, the wild card.
This has nothing to do with Q's plan. Q is a military movement to expose the deep state and remove the globalists, Satanists and pedophiles from power. Once that's done, Q is done.
Things like the economy and immigration have nothing to do with the war. They are entirely the domain of the politicians like Trump who are left with the responsibility to rebuild the institutions of the country. The military, thus Q, have no reason to be involved.
So I'm absolutely saying NO to Elon (and Trump too if he sides with Elon). And if Elon wants to go to war, then war it is. It is absolutely critical everyone be involved right now and make your voice heard. Because Elon, and increasingly Trump, look like they are veering off into a strategy that views America as an engine to be exploited for technology and a global counterbalance to China, rather than first and foremost a land that needs to rebuild its culture and restore the pride of its people.
In my opinion, we need protectionism and a safe space to remake our foundation. Only in a decade or so should we even consider trying to take on the world again. If the Chinese have surpassed us, we'll catch up. We came together and passed the Soviets in the space race, and we can do the same in any industry. But only once we wake up and start acting like a united and motivated people, and not the mindless lemmings many have become today.
When you say migrants, do you mean a certain race though?
I just want to try and understand from your point of view, not arguing.
Because I remember Project Paperclip, they brought in all these smart people from Germany eventhough they were Nazis. And you said "ancestors" but Trump's mom came here on a visa too and was working as a maid. Melania came on Visa as well.
You said you don't want any migrants into the country, that's painting a very broad brush over an issue. Also I have a Filipino friend who came here to be a nurse because there was a big shortage on nurses in America (not many like the hours and stressful dirty job) so she and her Filipino friends came and worked at the nursing homes. I'm in the middle with this issue but I also understand that we should train Americans and make college much much more affordable and less indoctrination by lefty professors so they can do the job instead of helping foreigners.
It happens periodically. The U.S goes through periods where the ‘Natives’ IE everyone who is poor and middle class here before (Insert Year)
Relentlessly attack, harass and bully immigrants. Even if they came from the same area in a prior wave of immigration. Viewing them as a perceived threat to their jobs and livelihoods.
The group then ‘Americanizes’ IE is absorbed into the wider cultural fabric. And the harassment fades.
We’ve gone through this cycle since the Country was founded. Irish, Germans, Welsh, Scottish, Italian, Polish, French, Spanish etc.
And we’ve been well overdue for another resurgence of this kind of rhetoric.
We’ve also gone after each other over religion in cycles as well. Mostly just rehashing Catholic and Protestant Grievances that were old even before the U.S was settled.
In some parts of the country the KKK spent almost as much time harassing White Catholics and did Black People.
It took till WW2 and fighting and dying alongside each other before Protestants and Catholics here finally began to bury the hatchet. Even then it wasn’t completely buried. As tensions flared again with the election of Kennedy.
But at the moment in modern day the biggest threat to either group from each other. Is mostly Juvenile arguments online, spouting Bible Verses at each other, and quoting Saints.
About the only group that routinely has disliked and mistreated everyone else in the Country since the founding. Regardless of their origin and religion. Has been the Uber wealthy. Hell. They don’t even like each other half the time.
Just to be clear I’m not talking run of the Mill Millionaire with a McMansion and a vacation house on a lake.
But the real old school old money families. That pay to obscure their real Networths or keep themselves out of the public eye period.
Fact is we are all immigrants to the USA. Whether our ancestors came before the "USA" existed only matters in whether they came to North America or to the USA. Unless you are pure blood Native American, your ancestors came here on a boat!
Our ancestors got NO government handouts and no guaranteed job. Our ancestors fought the battles that both established the Constitution and preserved it.
If H-1B workers weren't allowed in the U.S., then the jobs won't simply be given to U.S. workers instead. Those jobs will go overseas to a nation where those H-1B immigrants CAN work.
Frankly, I'd rather have the corporations and work stay here in the U.S..
See the problem with that is that such companies have to pay what's called an "exit tax" It's roughly 24% of UNREALIZED GAINS. For the record a large portion of any publicly traded companies stock is held by the company itself. Thats what they usually pay bonuses in and where stock buybacks go. Being forced to dump a massive amount of that on the stock market overnight would crash their stock. And that's not even getting into all their physical and intellectual assets that're worth hundreds of billions. That would bankrupt pretty much any large corporation, especially tech companies that are worth upwards of a Trillion Dollars at this point.
Completely offshoring the company just isn't an option. What would be more likely is they would try and offshore as much as they can while keeping the actual company in the US, but that leads to other problems like latency, scheduling problems, etc. etc.
Truth be told, if you completely cut off the visas, they wouldn't have much choice but hire Americans. You can simply offshore the entire company without it resulting in either massive competency and efficiency problems because management is an entire 12+ hours ahead of the rest of the company in terms of physical time zones. Or they incur a massive exit tax that would essentially either bankrupt the company or result in such a large loss for the investors that it would be grounds for a class actions lawsuit because the C-Suite can be deemed to no longer be acting in the best interest of the investors.
I'd rather have US companies that were created by US citizens and committed to staying in the USA. If that means other countries temporarily surpass us in technology and some jobs move there, then so be it.
Restoring our culture and our pride, and becoming fully self sufficient if necessary, is the foundation we need to become great again. You can't make a quick fix for this. Maybe we have to relearn to walk again while others are running marathons. That's OK.
We can talk about immigration a decade from now after we've healed, put down solid roots, and restarted our growth. Then, companies will want to stay in America not because we make it easy for foreign talent, but because they want access to our domestic talent.
It's not an easy road. But it's the right one for the people of America. Sadly, Elon doesn't seem to care about that.
Smart. When my husband got laid off decades ago, they moved their ENTIRE company overseas. LMAO so yeah go ahead with American first stop all migration, why don;t they just close America entirely like China did. All the companies will just move to China and Asia entirely. These people talk easy.
The Q psyops' main target demographic is 'Right-wingers.' This is a broad category which includes many of the greatest people in the world
It is also full of idiotic trashbags who are racist deplorables. Its true. I think many will learn to let it go. Racism is like war (what is it good for? [absolutely nothing]). Repent racism.
They cry "racism" only when white people become fed up with this crap.
People called trump supporters racist for years now we have to hear it from this entitled elite fuck?
Phuck Elon and all his weirdo ventures, too.
He did not say MAGA. It is America First and NOT America Only. I am surprised on how many on here are getting over dramatic about the whole thing. Gaslighting works still I guess.
Send them back to the demoKKKrat party where they came from.
Yawn…manufactured drama. Don’t know why or where this is going but Trump has used this play repeatedly. Haven’t we learned anything?
Lots of new names here trying to stir the pot against Elon. (And a downvote brigade.) Interesting.
This is equally as important as illegal immigrants.
But there should be a pyramid or checklist of priority issues..then it trickles down to -after we get everything else done- issues. Right now is just not the time.
Elon Musk is part of White hat team, so is Vivek. Trump's team is all we got.. is it really that important to cause in fighting right now? Aren't you tired? lol
Obviously this topic and the timing is planned from the start. Trust in Q's plan!
Elon, at best, is a pawn Trump is using. By no means is he a "white hat." I feel nothing but sadness for you that you cannot see that even if it was made so abundantly clear over the past 48 hours with his sperging session. Let alone with all the false promises and censorship he has condoned.
I don't disagree with you. I just think we need to wait till Jan 20th and trust in Q's plan.
DJT wouldn't let someone near his son or his grandkids for 2 months straight at Mar-la-largo unless something else is happening in the background. Everything has been discussed and intricately planned imo. Even the chaos is planned..and Elon is the dark MAGA, the wild card.
This has nothing to do with Q's plan. Q is a military movement to expose the deep state and remove the globalists, Satanists and pedophiles from power. Once that's done, Q is done.
Things like the economy and immigration have nothing to do with the war. They are entirely the domain of the politicians like Trump who are left with the responsibility to rebuild the institutions of the country. The military, thus Q, have no reason to be involved.
So I'm absolutely saying NO to Elon (and Trump too if he sides with Elon). And if Elon wants to go to war, then war it is. It is absolutely critical everyone be involved right now and make your voice heard. Because Elon, and increasingly Trump, look like they are veering off into a strategy that views America as an engine to be exploited for technology and a global counterbalance to China, rather than first and foremost a land that needs to rebuild its culture and restore the pride of its people.
In my opinion, we need protectionism and a safe space to remake our foundation. Only in a decade or so should we even consider trying to take on the world again. If the Chinese have surpassed us, we'll catch up. We came together and passed the Soviets in the space race, and we can do the same in any industry. But only once we wake up and start acting like a united and motivated people, and not the mindless lemmings many have become today.
This morning on Gateway MAGA has been removed from the headline
Lesson, don't pounce. This is a typo.
I don't support H1B either but I've been getting a ton of racism, even here.
I have a O1B too. -_-
When you say migrants, do you mean a certain race though?
I just want to try and understand from your point of view, not arguing.
Because I remember Project Paperclip, they brought in all these smart people from Germany eventhough they were Nazis. And you said "ancestors" but Trump's mom came here on a visa too and was working as a maid. Melania came on Visa as well.
You said you don't want any migrants into the country, that's painting a very broad brush over an issue. Also I have a Filipino friend who came here to be a nurse because there was a big shortage on nurses in America (not many like the hours and stressful dirty job) so she and her Filipino friends came and worked at the nursing homes. I'm in the middle with this issue but I also understand that we should train Americans and make college much much more affordable and less indoctrination by lefty professors so they can do the job instead of helping foreigners.
It happens periodically. The U.S goes through periods where the ‘Natives’ IE everyone who is poor and middle class here before (Insert Year)
Relentlessly attack, harass and bully immigrants. Even if they came from the same area in a prior wave of immigration. Viewing them as a perceived threat to their jobs and livelihoods.
The group then ‘Americanizes’ IE is absorbed into the wider cultural fabric. And the harassment fades.
We’ve gone through this cycle since the Country was founded. Irish, Germans, Welsh, Scottish, Italian, Polish, French, Spanish etc.
And we’ve been well overdue for another resurgence of this kind of rhetoric.
We’ve also gone after each other over religion in cycles as well. Mostly just rehashing Catholic and Protestant Grievances that were old even before the U.S was settled.
In some parts of the country the KKK spent almost as much time harassing White Catholics and did Black People.
It took till WW2 and fighting and dying alongside each other before Protestants and Catholics here finally began to bury the hatchet. Even then it wasn’t completely buried. As tensions flared again with the election of Kennedy.
But at the moment in modern day the biggest threat to either group from each other. Is mostly Juvenile arguments online, spouting Bible Verses at each other, and quoting Saints.
About the only group that routinely has disliked and mistreated everyone else in the Country since the founding. Regardless of their origin and religion. Has been the Uber wealthy. Hell. They don’t even like each other half the time.
Just to be clear I’m not talking run of the Mill Millionaire with a McMansion and a vacation house on a lake.
But the real old school old money families. That pay to obscure their real Networths or keep themselves out of the public eye period.
Fact is we are all immigrants to the USA. Whether our ancestors came before the "USA" existed only matters in whether they came to North America or to the USA. Unless you are pure blood Native American, your ancestors came here on a boat!
Our ancestors got NO government handouts and no guaranteed job. Our ancestors fought the battles that both established the Constitution and preserved it.
lol the downvotes. -_-
Musk 🎩
He didn’t say MAGA.
Think about it.
If H-1B workers weren't allowed in the U.S., then the jobs won't simply be given to U.S. workers instead. Those jobs will go overseas to a nation where those H-1B immigrants CAN work.
Frankly, I'd rather have the corporations and work stay here in the U.S..
See the problem with that is that such companies have to pay what's called an "exit tax" It's roughly 24% of UNREALIZED GAINS. For the record a large portion of any publicly traded companies stock is held by the company itself. Thats what they usually pay bonuses in and where stock buybacks go. Being forced to dump a massive amount of that on the stock market overnight would crash their stock. And that's not even getting into all their physical and intellectual assets that're worth hundreds of billions. That would bankrupt pretty much any large corporation, especially tech companies that are worth upwards of a Trillion Dollars at this point.
Completely offshoring the company just isn't an option. What would be more likely is they would try and offshore as much as they can while keeping the actual company in the US, but that leads to other problems like latency, scheduling problems, etc. etc.
Truth be told, if you completely cut off the visas, they wouldn't have much choice but hire Americans. You can simply offshore the entire company without it resulting in either massive competency and efficiency problems because management is an entire 12+ hours ahead of the rest of the company in terms of physical time zones. Or they incur a massive exit tax that would essentially either bankrupt the company or result in such a large loss for the investors that it would be grounds for a class actions lawsuit because the C-Suite can be deemed to no longer be acting in the best interest of the investors.
I'd rather have US companies that were created by US citizens and committed to staying in the USA. If that means other countries temporarily surpass us in technology and some jobs move there, then so be it.
Restoring our culture and our pride, and becoming fully self sufficient if necessary, is the foundation we need to become great again. You can't make a quick fix for this. Maybe we have to relearn to walk again while others are running marathons. That's OK.
We can talk about immigration a decade from now after we've healed, put down solid roots, and restarted our growth. Then, companies will want to stay in America not because we make it easy for foreign talent, but because they want access to our domestic talent.
It's not an easy road. But it's the right one for the people of America. Sadly, Elon doesn't seem to care about that.
Smart. When my husband got laid off decades ago, they moved their ENTIRE company overseas. LMAO so yeah go ahead with American first stop all migration, why don;t they just close America entirely like China did. All the companies will just move to China and Asia entirely. These people talk easy.
The Q psyops' main target demographic is 'Right-wingers.' This is a broad category which includes many of the greatest people in the world It is also full of idiotic trashbags who are racist deplorables. Its true. I think many will learn to let it go. Racism is like war (what is it good for? [absolutely nothing]). Repent racism.
How about we move on from this topic OP? You seem to be obsessed with it. Post something we haven’t discussed ad nauseum yet.
Nicely said and true! I always appreciate the time you spend to bring us great information .