Fraud vitiates everything, or so I've been told. I guess we'll see.

Biden was never an illegitimate President, he wasn't ever the President. We're in a COG and military operation and Trump and the white hats are basically telling the sleepers that the fake Biden will be impeached.

If you have X ask Grok. His answer to me was very long and unfortunately was not what I had hoped the answer would be. Very disheartening.

If you do not have X let me know and I will put the entire answer in the comments.

Fraud vitiates everything. Everything he did would be undone. Then the penalties would begin.

Not sure, but they also need to put checks into place to mske sure this doesn't ever happen again.

Maybe all the liberal judges be null and void!

If Obama faked his BC would it go all the way back to 08?

To go even deeper then that could it be found that the “Hanging Chad” was fraud? How far are we willing to look back for the Fraud? If say it takes it back to FDR are we gonna lose everything that’s happened?

Maybe nothing other than Biden is shown to have been completely incompetent and other unelected people were running the show. In that case, I would think that would be the death knell for the democrat party.

Are you saying Biden’s parents were never married? Now I feel justified for all the times I called him a bastsrd. /s

Trump once quipped about getting to nominate the majority of the Supreme Court.

It'll be like they were never here; Obama, and Biden, and hopefully more.

The Trump card is that Obama and Biden were criminal usurpers. And they knew it. NOT only that, the uniparty leadership knew. When the people find out, trust in government falls to approaching zero. It will have to be corrected. No matter what AI says. Or that's the end of the US Federal Government.

What would happen in terms of laws passed if there was no administrative state and all applicable laws were actually written by us/congress and clearly visible, and actual budgets were passed instead of omnibuses and CRs?

Wouldn’t it be cool if almost all laws and statutes back to before FDR were undone, to the point that we could potentially know what federal law was, offhand or at least the gist of it, without looking it up and cross referencing it with 125,000 other statutes?

We could even keep the best things from the statutory code and have it available as good recommended practice for safety, quality, etc. - things that could be logged and shown as proof of good work to buyers on complex jobs, but in a mostly private way, or enforced by a smaller state agency if it was something particularly important that impacted the public and had a genuine interest.

Nothing

A "line item veto" would be sweeter

Go ask the Supreme Court. They will be the ultimate arbitors of that case.

From GPT

This is a fascinating constitutional and legal question with massive implications. Let’s break it down.

1. Are the Executive Orders and Laws Legitimate?

If a rogue employee was using an auto-pen to sign executive orders and bills into law without the president's awareness or authorization, this would be a clear case of fraud and forgery. However, whether the orders and laws remain valid depends on multiple factors:

• Executive Orders: If they were implemented and enforced as official actions, they may still stand unless formally revoked by the next administration or challenged in court.
• Laws Signed into Law: If Congress passed bills, the supposed president “signed” them (fraudulently), and they went into effect, courts would have to decide whether to nullify them or let them stand.

Typically, courts are reluctant to overturn laws retroactively, especially if they have already been enforced for years. However, any affected parties could challenge them in court, potentially leading to the Supreme Court ruling on their legitimacy.

2. Who is Legally Responsible?

Several criminal and constitutional violations would apply:

• Fraud & Forgery: The staff who orchestrated this scheme could face serious charges, including forgery, conspiracy, and fraud.
• Obstruction of Government Functions: They knowingly deceived the government and the public.
• High-Level Prosecutions: If White House officials knowingly participated, they could face prosecution under federal law.
• Constitutional Crisis: If this deception was widespread, impeachment or legal action could follow for any accomplices still in government.

3. Would the President Face Consequences?

If the former president was truly senile and incapable of understanding what happened, they might not be criminally liable. However, Congress or courts might still formally declare the term fraudulent—though in reality, it’s unlikely that past actions could be undone.

4. How Would the Government Handle This?

• Congressional Investigation: Congress would hold hearings to uncover who was involved.
• Legal Challenges: Courts could invalidate some or all fraudulent executive actions.
• Criminal Prosecutions: Officials involved could face serious charges.
• Safeguards Introduced: New policies might be enacted to ensure this never happens again (e.g., stricter mental fitness checks for presidents).

5. Could This Undermine Faith in Government?

Absolutely. If such fraud was exposed, it would shake public trust in the system, leading to widespread outrage, demands for reform, and possibly changes to how presidential authority is verified.

Final Thought

This hypothetical scenario would be one of the greatest political scandals in U.S. history, triggering major legal and constitutional debates. While courts may uphold laws signed during the fraudulent presidency, the individuals responsible for the deception would likely face severe consequences.

Would you like to explore how a constitutional amendment could prevent such a scenario in the future?