NY ban religious exemptions for vaccines & are threatening the Amish
(thepeoplesvoice.tv)
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This HAS to stop!.
These people are sick. OVER MY DEAD BODY. I'll kill you if you come near my kid with a needle full of engineered poison. FUCKING TRY ME.
This is unfortunately not the position of the Amish.
It's up to good strong people to stand up and fight for the most innocent among us.
I live by all amish. They are 100% against this crap.
They might disagree, but pacifist disagreement is far different from the "FUCKING TRY ME" sentiment to which I was replying.
Not surprising. They have an eyewatering rate of child sexual abuse.
https://people.com/crime/sins-of-the-amish-inside-amish-sex-abuse-survivor-quest-for-justice/
Basically every Amish child is being sexually abused right now without any legal consequence. Statistically speaking, if you see a photograph of several Amish adults, there will be at least one paedophile in that photo.
Now- do I sympathise with their position on the vax? YES, absolutely, except that they should be resisting at gunpoint. And obviously my heart goes out to their innocent kids. But that doesn't excuse the other horrors they inflict on their own children.
It's a bit like the Taliban. I both abhor them as the satanists they are, while also admiring a lot of what they've done with their country. Both things can be true; which is what the Left doesn't understand
Have an updoot for being rational.
how does one pedo violate all of them at once and all of the time? emphasizing "right now" after saying "every", makes this obviously not true. Personally I despise the amish, but I know they arent all victims of rape. That would create a serious army of pedophiles. There would be roving rape gangs of pedophile amish
There are literally thousands of examples, and that's just the ones we know about. Here's a few more (a full list would be impossible)
https://pafsa.org/in-the-news/2024/lancaster-online-amish-abuse-victims-say-culture-keeps-abuse-hidden-but-new-generation-is-making-changes/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26301438/
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/19/797804404/investigation-into-child-sex-abuse-in-amish-communities
https://whyy.org/articles/amish-country-exhibit-spotlights-sex-abuse/
https://www.eden.co.uk/christian-books/the-church/tears-of-the-silenced-an-amish-true-crime-memoir-of-childhood-sexual-abuse-brutal-betrayal-and-ultimate-survival-amish-book-child-abuse/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/378436116_Child_Sexual_Abuse_in_Amish_Mennonite_Anabaptist_and_Other_Religious_Groups
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2oK0n8Kf7M
https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-the-Amish-punish-their-male-sex-offenders
https://www.pennlive.com/crime/2021/11/amish-father-and-son-sentenced-for-sexually-assaulting-children-prosecutors.html
https://wpde.com/news/nation-world/registered-sex-offender-arrested-for-raping-bremen-amish-woman-in-front-of-her-child
https://www.wjer.com/news/amish-man-gets-10-to-15-years-in-prison-in-child-sex-abuse-case/
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/amish-brothers-spared-jail-after-admitting-to-sexually-abusing-12yearold-sister/news-story/fd7e72bc84aeffdf63a76bdb8e2a504a
https://eu.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2020/09/16/no-prison-time-two-amish-men-seymour-who-pleaded-guilty-molesting-relative/5818667002/
https://newsinteractive.post-gazette.com/coverings/mennonites-forgiveness-sexual-abuse-coverings-plain-amish-lancaster-county/
https://local21news.com/news/local/2010-amish-sex-crime-case-sparks-new-task-force-created-by-lancaster-judge
https://www.thedailybeast.com/protesters-rally-outside-amish-sex-offenders-hearing/
Please understand that this just scratches the surface of the problem, but I hope I made my point. It's so prolific that a whole law firm specialising in defending Amish paedophiles was set up in Ohio in 2018 https://www.iboldobrien.com/blog/2024/03/sex-crimes-defense-for-members-of-the-amish-community/
Now, I'll accept that my estimate that its basically every child is a guess; but here's what it's based on:
There are around 400,000 Amish https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Amish_population
Lets say, conservatively, that around 5% are child abusers; which, bluntly, is probably a wild underestimate; based on some of the anecdotal evidence. That means there are 20,000 Amish child sex offenders active right now.
The Amish population grows by about 3.5% per year, or about 14,000 new Amish babies every year.
So there's literally a lower supply of children than of paedophiles. Even if those predators attack only once a year each (and it's obviously way more); it's basically guaranteed that every Amish child is regularly abused.
What stops the White Hats from ending that? Why isnt Trump talking about this? Why isnt there a sticky?
While there is a problem within this community, compared to what is going on within the world of the elites system, the Amish is microscopic. Trump and the WHs will be going after the BIG (Epstein/Diddy, etc.) problems first. Its coming and once the crimes against children is exposed, there will be no place they can hide, even within the Amish/Mennonite/Hoodrites and other small cultures of religious existence won't be able to escape this sickness. Many believe they are ignorant of the outside. Think on! They are deeply tuned in to what's going on, understand and openly discuss amongst themselves. Once it starts, there is no going back. They will feel the pressures to clean up their own houses as well.
Its allowed to continue until it isnt. Silence is complicity.
Good question. It's disheartening that we haven't been speaking out about this, so I can't blame people for being skeptical until they see the weight of the evidence.
You've got to assume the NY state government is complicit; hence the vax to silence the kids. Bring on the abolition or reconstruction of most state governments, to be honest.
That said, I'm sure it's in hand, in some form. Who knows what is coming? Will we see mass arrests or deportations of the Amish? Or will the evidence just be released to the public and it's left to the militia to clean it up? I can't speak for Trump, but I hope there'll be a resolution soon.
Oh, yeah. Probably in hand. Next!!!
Holy shit.
Yeah. The Amish might be one of the worst offenders and (secretly) greatest threats to our children and way of life, but no-one ever talks about it.
Yup. Child rapists, animal abusers, tax dodgers, liars and cultists. The Amish NEED to be threatened.
Not with the vax, of course, but... yeah, they absolutely do. Frankly I'd think about adding them to the mass deportation lists (at least)
x2.
If "vaccines" are working for you
why would I need to get them?
Good question
Only $cience has the an$wer
I believe in shedding. Don't have the scientific data to back that up, but have observed how I felt right after the annual vaccinations at work, how I felt after being in a group of vaccinated people during the plandemic, and similar observations by others.
Since being in close proximity to a large group of people before the plandemic didn't have the same impact, including flu season, something was different.
Hmm, guess there was something to the idea that the Amish doesn’t have the same rate of autism as the rest of the country. Can we say trying to destroy the “control group”?
Modern science decided the Amish were too healthy.
But yeah I think they forced the vaccine so hard originally to get rid of the control group.
My thoughts exactly
1 in 35 for we "normals" currently. That ought to be a big fucking red flag but for some reason it isn't. I have an autistic nephew who at 25 you couldn't tell that he was ever on the spectrum. I credit his father who put an incredible amount of work on him as a kid. It was the MMR vaxxx that done him in.
God bless the father.
I blame vaccines, but also parents for "autism." I spent the first 5 years of my kids life staying at home raising him. The amount of my peers who actively sought out autism "diagnoses" and the State money that accompanies it was disgusting. I watched many of these children interact with "free" social workers who did less to integrate these kids into society than I did in my free time, as a friendly parent who happened to be hanging around.
Every single one of these parents eventually stopped seeking me and my wife out for play dates out of shame. Only a few are left from a pretty large original batch.
But hey they got free babysitting until public school. 🤷♂️
Just another broken system breaking people.
I really should also mention that my sister and her husband spent an incredible amount of time with my nephew. They pretty much bought the house next door to my brother in Palm Desert. Brother is a golf pro and he often took the child to work to interact with strangers. When he didn't, my sister and her husband had the child.My nephew comes to visit them every summer for months at a time. Currently my nephew is running the golf course while his parents are ill. He has also written two novels which I am told are pretty good.
I had no idea that State money was available for autism. I know that my brother never took any. I do remember him paying several schools to smooth over any problems the child caused. My brother in law did end up as a wheel in Special Olympics which I suppose is a story in itself.
That and the COVID stats.
This is garbage...you can not force people to take a shot that is against their religious beliefs....I am utterly disgusted.
I agree. RFKJr has a X page.... maybe he can help them.
Everything I look up says this was removed in 2019 https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/2170/docs/new_legislation_joint_statement.pdf
anybody else have any sauce on whether this was recent...either way needs to be reversed.
Article says they sued in 2019 and the case was decided this March.
So while it has been suspended since the lawsuit, presumably it goes into effect now.
Very easy to find articles about it... https://www.google.com/search?q=ny+state+court+vs+amish+vaccines&oq=ny+state+court+vs+amish+vaccines
Got it, I missed that & appreciate the clarity fren
This whole thing is ridiculous because they're throwing out Supreme Court precedent In order to do this. So what really needs to happen is this needs to be appealed up to the Supreme Court showing what the second circuit is doing and have them squash it.
They helped us when we needed it we need to help them. If you have the room, maybe offer a place of sanctuary in another state. Maybe Brandon Straka can get coms about this to them. I would offer a place, but I am in California and our Assholes might force them to go home. If any have no other options I would foster a family. I have enough room for 1 family.
Exactly. I live in PA they helped us win the state. They are more than welcome over here (in fact Lancaster& Lebanon County has huge populations of them). There is crossover in grocery stores etc; make sure to thank them when I see them for helping win PA.
These things are commanded biblically, good on you two! Too bad for all of us that this is from thepeoplesvoice.tv, so let’s put on our “sucker” hats for the day.
Can RFK stop this?
If it gets on his radar I imagine he would fight it
ThePeoplesvoice.tv is a fake news site. It's run by a shitlib who feeds off of conservatives' confirmation bias. We've been over this before. You've been around long enough on this forum to have your own Pepe icon, so you should know this. This is the sort of fake stuff that OldPatriot keeps posting. FractalizingIron is gonna kick your butt over stuff like this.
There are many sources, pick one that doesn't trigger you.
Is this ok?. https://natlawreview.com/article/new-york-court-upholds-law-eliminating-religious-exemption-mandatory-vaccinations
OK, then that is the article that should be posted. Notice that it's from December 2019, before the Plandemic hit. TPV has it posted like it's something brand new. People can get a temp ban for posting TPV. Fatality has warned us about posting links to that site, which is iffy at best. Just trying to help, fren.
Ok. There are so many sites with similar names, I made a mistake. Plus I promised myself I wasn't gonna post stuff anymore because eventually the stuff I'm interested in will bubble up. lol.
I'm going back to trying to shut up. :)
Good troll! Ha. Nice timing to dump it first thing in the morning, too.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17sPBGygy7/im-entering-fatality-punisher-mo/
Ahem.
Is Bloomberg in on it too then? https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/ny-sheds-amish-schools-vaccine-mandate-discrimination-claims
And the state of Alabama? https://www.alabamaag.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Miller-Blue-Br.pdf
Probably should get a sticky.
The SCOTUS has ruled that children can be forced vaccinate. BUT this is a very old ruling and needs to be appealed to the SCOTUS again. February 20, 1905, Supreme Court rejected Jacobson’s arguments. Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote about the police power of states to regulate for the protection of public health: “The good and welfare of the Commonwealth, of which the legislature is primarily the judge, is the basis on which the police power rests in Massachusetts,” Harlan said “upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.” https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-supreme-court-rules-on-vaccines-and-public-health
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-643/310135/20240520104148674_5-20-2024%20FINAL%20Glastonbury%20BOE%20Brief%20in%20Opposition.pdf
The Amish aren’t even part of the debtor system. How can they possibly argue they have any authority to vax Amish kids?😡
In NY for the 2024 election there was also leglislation to vote on that basically removed all parental rights that PASSED.
Mind you it was artfully-deceptively written to seem like yes vote would be a good thing, plus all their elections are absolutely corrupt
If the Amish move to another state, China and BlackRock will then buy up the farmland.
Uhhh this won’t last long under Trump. Pretty sure by tomorrow or Monday he’ll EO this bullsh1t away. Plus haven’t the Amish already beat every Religious Exemption persecution case known to the US Supreme Court? The Amish attorney isn’t doing a very good job of pulling their wins from prior cases to tell the NY Board of Education to STFU. But pretty sure they’ll beat this one way or the other before any child is actually physically “forced” to take a vaccine. Because so far sounds like they’re just letting the fines rack up, and they should continue doing so with the single finger salute to NY.
I hope he can, NY is a mess, but they've passed some legislation there that I mentioned elsewhere in this thread that is just awful.
Plus in 2019 (I think) in some middle-of-the-night treachery the legislators changed the law that allowed the Governor to temporarily change/suspend law to being able to CREATE laws in a State of Emergency
The communists are dug in deep there and I think it will take a long long time to unscrew NY. Unless of course Jesus gets involved there.
The SCOTUS has ruled that children can be forced vaccinate. BUT this is a very old ruling and needs to be appealed to the SCOTUS again. February 20, 1905, Supreme Court rejected Jacobson’s arguments. Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote about the police power of states to regulate for the protection of public health: “The good and welfare of the Commonwealth, of which the legislature is primarily the judge, is the basis on which the police power rests in Massachusetts,” Harlan said “upon the principle of self-defense, of paramount necessity, a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic of disease which threatens the safety of its members.” https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/on-this-day-the-supreme-court-rules-on-vaccines-and-public-health
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-643/310135/20240520104148674_5-20-2024%20FINAL%20Glastonbury%20BOE%20Brief%20in%20Opposition.pdf
That's retaliation because Pa's Amish voted Trump in.
This is why they voted maga in pa
Class action? I hate NY so much it's unreal.
Me too. We fled about 2 years ago (and man the Lord as blessed us so much in that move).
DO NOT COMPLY!!!
Oh no!
What would the healthiest people in the country know
Name names on who exactly is pushing this and trying to enforce this. Those are the people you go after.
After more illegals get deported from NYC, the citizens really ought to recall all the democrat leaders. They probably couldn't cheat big enough to stay in office if their illegals are gone.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEEEEOOPPLLEEEEEE!!!!!
503 error?
I think they voted MAGA in NY too, Mennonites too