We should have the right to opt out. If the amount we put in over 30 or 40 years instead went into an index fund, we would all be millionaires and could retire comfortably.
Exactly, I already have a savings account and a 401K, if money wasn't forcibly taken from me for social security, I could put that money where it will be useful and possibly make more than what I'd receive in SS. People should have the option to opt-out. Understandably, there are a lot of people who aren't good with money and don't think about the future, they can stay opt-in. However, I'm great with money and the government shouldn't decide what's done with my SS money, because clearly they're using it somewhere else 😒
I have said that all along, if I could invest that money instead of .gov, I would likely be retired by now. It has been a scam since inception. Fuckers...
I think they saw this coming so they started Secure Savings to force people to contribute to an IRA. They kindly pass this on to employers to sort out and get going, then the government handles everything from there. I live in Colorado so all of this was implemented 1-2 years ago. In addition to Social Security, Medicare, federal & state withholding, we also added another tax for FAMLI (paid leave), then Secure Savings. I'm shocked I even have a paycheck!
Eventually you 'owe' the government more than you earn. But they are nice enough to giveth thee vouchers or chits for food, gas, housing, etc.
Because it didn't matter that you were good with money. A bunch of people weren't so you have to pay for them too. You aren't special. You do not deserve more than someone else just because you work harder, smarter, and more responsible...🤷
I'd have been gone in 2022 but my folks live here and I can't leave them. I keep praying my Dad will want to move, but he designed and built his house, and the one next door that was his folks' house until they both passed and my brother bought the house.
We have some years into this little town, be hard to leave it behind, but Colorado is the new California, so if they ever give the idea merit, we'll be gone! Otherwise, screw that! We built a life here, we aren't giving that up! 🤣
Based on the maximum payment of $5,108, which I'm sure fraudsters were getting, this saves over $50 billion a month in payments. That's $606 billion a year.
This ends the, "Social security will be dried up!" claims.
It appears that Musk alluded to an arrest happening today. They know the main person responsible for stealing the SSN's and selling them to facilitate the fraud. We shall see.
9 to 11 million KNOWN fraudulent payments a month of about 2000 a month! Do the math for monthly basis the we know was fraud and you can probably multiply that number by 3 for the actual amount of fraudulent payments. At least I got a 20 dollar raise last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been reading leftist comments like "what a bunch of bull!", or "people get old, so unless SS is notified of a death, they stay on the rolls, it doesn't mean someone is still collecting". Of course, they totally ignore mention of illegals being on the rolls.
This money was going to people that are citizens. The other line of fraud Musk found was to illegal aliens. The third line of fraud has yet to be can openered...that will be found there are citizens completely "outside" the system.
MAKE SOCIAL SECURITY FAIR AGAIN!!!!
We should have the right to opt out. If the amount we put in over 30 or 40 years instead went into an index fund, we would all be millionaires and could retire comfortably.
Sure if they wanted YOU to be wealthy
It does go to an index fund, and it makes them wealthy
And you’re lucky to get out what you put in
Exactly, I already have a savings account and a 401K, if money wasn't forcibly taken from me for social security, I could put that money where it will be useful and possibly make more than what I'd receive in SS. People should have the option to opt-out. Understandably, there are a lot of people who aren't good with money and don't think about the future, they can stay opt-in. However, I'm great with money and the government shouldn't decide what's done with my SS money, because clearly they're using it somewhere else 😒
I have said that all along, if I could invest that money instead of .gov, I would likely be retired by now. It has been a scam since inception. Fuckers...
This is what they don't want.
Back when Social Security started Galveston TX found a loophole and they opted out.
When they retired they were well over 5K a month.
Social Security closed that loophole fast.
I think they saw this coming so they started Secure Savings to force people to contribute to an IRA. They kindly pass this on to employers to sort out and get going, then the government handles everything from there. I live in Colorado so all of this was implemented 1-2 years ago. In addition to Social Security, Medicare, federal & state withholding, we also added another tax for FAMLI (paid leave), then Secure Savings. I'm shocked I even have a paycheck!
Eventually you 'owe' the government more than you earn. But they are nice enough to giveth thee vouchers or chits for food, gas, housing, etc.
Because it didn't matter that you were good with money. A bunch of people weren't so you have to pay for them too. You aren't special. You do not deserve more than someone else just because you work harder, smarter, and more responsible...🤷
Communism starts little. That shit is insidious.
And it has definitely started little in the USA! I hope we can save this country!
Time to move!
I'd have been gone in 2022 but my folks live here and I can't leave them. I keep praying my Dad will want to move, but he designed and built his house, and the one next door that was his folks' house until they both passed and my brother bought the house.
We have some years into this little town, be hard to leave it behind, but Colorado is the new California, so if they ever give the idea merit, we'll be gone! Otherwise, screw that! We built a life here, we aren't giving that up! 🤣
These evil creeps must return our money, arrests them.
Based on the maximum payment of $5,108, which I'm sure fraudsters were getting, this saves over $50 billion a month in payments. That's $606 billion a year.
This ends the, "Social security will be dried up!" claims.
Who exactly was receiving the payments and how? What charges will be filed?
It appears that Musk alluded to an arrest happening today. They know the main person responsible for stealing the SSN's and selling them to facilitate the fraud. We shall see.
This should be the top comment with 1000 up votes.
...the million dollar question
https://x.com/DOGE/status/1906859125914698215
Edit to add -
PROOF OF ILLEGALS GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS🚨For those that doubt Elon Musk and DOGE, here's 2 minutes of illegals admitting that they have SSNs
https://greatawakening.win/p/19Awxrr3cf/proof-of-illegals-getting-social/c/
Today 3/31/25 Evil man Musk discovered 5 million illegal invaders on Social Security plus Medicare for the last five years https://greatawakening.win/p/19AwtLPNFD/every-american-should-watch-this/
This may be more about votes than payments. But I am hoping that it’s going to save money?
But this was deboooonked months ago!! 11!
9 to 11 million KNOWN fraudulent payments a month of about 2000 a month! Do the math for monthly basis the we know was fraud and you can probably multiply that number by 3 for the actual amount of fraudulent payments. At least I got a 20 dollar raise last year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS is the reason I said "do the math" because I couldn't! Kek
I did get my 20 dollar raise though! Kek
Would be interesting to see who bank account the money was going to.
Have they reported how many of the over 120 age group are currently receiving checks?
I'd be interested in this number and to know where the money was actually going.
Hopefully they will find that in several cases, the money never went to a person, but to some organization, and all those involved will be arrested.
I've been reading leftist comments like "what a bunch of bull!", or "people get old, so unless SS is notified of a death, they stay on the rolls, it doesn't mean someone is still collecting". Of course, they totally ignore mention of illegals being on the rolls.
I'd love to know where these people were voting... I mean, living... I mean....
Appears SS is more solvent than they claimed.
I wonder how many of those were getting Checks each month?????
Love you, Elon and DOGE! Thanks!
This money was going to people that are citizens. The other line of fraud Musk found was to illegal aliens. The third line of fraud has yet to be can openered...that will be found there are citizens completely "outside" the system.
Yeah dead citizens and makes you wonder who was using those accounts
Now what is Chicago going to do? They are losing their dead voter base AND the money going to them! :)
Now that I think about it, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of this fraud trails back to the mafia.