This morning I went to the site. It is only a few miles from where I live, and I went there to pray. The scene was much as you would expect after such a tragedy. Camera crews lined the streets, their vans parked shoulder to shoulder. In front of the church, hundreds of bouquets and stuffed animals had been laid down in tribute. Many people had gathered there to pray, their faces wet with tears, their grief heavy and visible.
On the side of the building, I noticed the half dozen narrow windows the shooter had fired from. They were now boarded up, each one covered with chalk writing. Around the back of the church, where the shooter’s life had ended, another set of windows was sealed with boards. There, a single bouquet had been left, though I do not know by whom or why. Two women who appeared to be a couple were writing gun control messages on the boards. Unlike those mourning in the front, they did not seem weighed down by sorrow. Part of me wished there were more care in how messages were allowed at the site.
Not long after, I saw the priest. I have known him for thirteen years, since my kindergarten days, when he was serving at a different school parish. Unlike many priests today who lean liberal, he is deeply conservative and outspoken on issues like abortion and LGBT matters. Earlier, I spoke with a woman there who said she was glad to finally have a priest unafraid to take such stands. He has only been here three months, but it is clear he has already made an impression.
When I spoke with him briefly, he seemed worn but steady. He told me he has been busy visiting victims at the hospital. He had not seen the shooter during the chaos, but he did see the body afterward. I asked him how I should pray, and his response was simple: “Pray as the Holy Spirit leads you.”
Great story/post. Always enjoy hearing from anons on the ground, especially amidst a tragedy like this. Appreciate your share and respect to you for visiting the site.
Absolutely high value information/report. Counters the theory that this was somehow a 'psyop' by the good guys. The evil cabal are happy to sacrifice lives, but its anathema to what the white hats need to achieve.
One thing I’ve had some trouble with, as I’ve been psyop adjacent to a few of these myself, is conveying claims to the hardline skeptics.
Justifiably, they don’t necessarily believe “some account from the internet”, even though I’ve had comments with them for some time before the statements.
Fair. I could be a “sleeper”, or whatever. Frankly, their claims of being a bot could even be true, but I feel like that one can be overcome in some situations. I could be lying for whatever reason, etc.
Point being, it ironically can be as hard to convey truth into pure skepticism as it is to convey it into pure liberalism, which, I have a hunch that they both grow out of the same thing - a refusal to accept the current accepted standards/claims through having witnessed the flaws in them.
Providing credibility to the epistemological nature of “evidence” is absolutely going to be a very tricky thing moving forward, both on the internet and in person. I’ve tried to qualify my claims as best as I can to show only the very limited things I can verify, and their nature of reliability (firsthand, secondhand, etc), but this has ended up with “my neighbors third wive’s cat heard someone say…”.
While a certain poster on here is a bit excessively confrontational, and one to whom I’m not sure the objections above don’t apply, he did make valid posit the other day of “you eventually have to accept something.” To date, I’ve gone with the NT example of “I professed to know nothing except Christ and Christ crucified.” Adding to that may or may not be a good idea.
Just a funny situation I’ve run into, if you have any constructive thoughts.
“Welcome to the Post-Fact World.”
[<gun pointed at astronaut> “Always has been.”]
The "question everything" ideology take to its natural conclusion can be something of a paradigm shift, equivalent to military boot camp. There they tear down a person both physically and mentally, down to their core. This is done to remake the soldier, to be able to cope with the physical and mental ardue of war.
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Questioning everything will do the same thing to your fundamental truth base, and philosophical understanding of the world. The teardown process is fairly easy. The problem with doing it hear is the latter half, the rebuilding.
With no "drill seargent" to properly guide you through, that rebuild process can get all kinds of screwed up. There has to be some truth claims in your life. Without them a person simply has no way to function. You did great holding on to Christ, but be wary that a teardown like this without assistance leads to allowing all kinds of things into your life. From fringe conspiracies and paranoia, to irl demons and other issues, such as now increased susceptibility to external manipulation, such as MK Ultra and the like.
Study and understanding are good. Losing yourself, or worse your faith, along the way are not good things.
1 Corinthians 6:12
1 Timothy 4:2-5
It’s a lot easier to deal with paranoia if you’ve always been a bit paranoid from having been betrayed even as a child. It’s just like any other exercise after a while.
What is the guidance for rebuilding? The wise man builds his house upon The Rock.
Oh but how does one find the bedrock when there’s still soil above it?
Still, not really the question I was looking to address. Dealing with hard skepticism for for oneself is one thing, but the immediate question was how to convey known information to a hard skeptic? A good comment, though!
Personally, I think you're a sleeper. Had my suspicions a looooong time.
:D
Beh. That doesn’t help much with the ability to testify to simple things like “yeah uh, that thing exists” while people are questioning if it does.
It’s fine if they want to keep questioning in that direction, but when it does exist, it’s probably not fruitful to do so…
The same issue would apply to me when I’m questioning some of the things I do, or also with regard to things like testimony on the existence of God based off observations and experiences.
It’d be nice if people other than maybe law schools taught how to reliably establish facts … except that we’re in a war against false “reliably” established facts, or maybe that ability would have helped fend this situation off.
um, what's the 'that' here?
<slightly confused iron>
With the question that was asked 😁
Anyway is there such a thing as an unpaid shill? Sounds like a terrible job. “What’s my reward, then?” “Still fire and brimstone, sir! Step right up!”
There was a question?
And you were the one who raised the possibility of you being a sleeper. I was just trying to be supportive!
Anyway, tongue in cheek. Sorry I couldn't help much with the dilemma.
Tough topic.As complicated or as simple as you want it to be.
My favorite part of GW are the "anons on the ground." We hear things that no one else does.
Thank you Young Patriot
Thank you, and thank you for sharing what the priest said. Only 7 words but the best advice on how to pray. I’m not good at praying and it’s usually short and saying the Our Father in heaven prayer and whoever I have to pray for, just a few short words, cos the Father already knows I think. But the Bible says to keep praying and I don’t have that many words and my church I used to go to taught us to speak in tongue so sometimes I do that instead.
God bless you.
Thank you. Ugh, after my visit there I've been so depressed all day. Not sure if it's because of being sad about the kids. It's just like there was so much negative energy there maybe.
It must be the energy from that site and you were at ground zero after all. Like I still couldn't go to the ground zero in NYC to this day, whenever I passed that street a chill ran down my spine. Pray, listen to some worship music and try to clean out the negative energy still hanging around.
❤️🙏
Right? I noticed that too, and it was years after.
The loving healing presence of God is everywhere, in Its entirety, transcending time and space. Be still and know that I am God. Anyone who can feel this in their prayers, amplify it and send it to Annunciation in their thoughts will help to heal the pain.
Thank you Fren 🙏
I can't imagine how sick that energy must have felt At ground zero.
Just as a condolence, recall that of the prayers in Psalms, the ones by King David included prayers for the confusion and destruction of his enemies.
Yess indeed
I’ve found taking each line of The Lord’s Prayer and using it as a template to try and apply it to something going on that needs addressing to be a good approach.
Thank you for your kind and loving heart YoungPatriot. We are praying for this Parrish, the families, the students and this Priest. 💔🙏🤍
Thanks for sharing this with us fren. The priest sounds like a good man.
Thank you for this post
Well done Fren. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for your time & personal insight into this matter. That priest gave the best advice on prayer & I will be praying for you & that entire community.
Thank you for sharing.
God bless Young Patriot;)
Great post fren!!! There is so much to take from this post! The biggest one? “Pray as the Holy Spirit leads you.” Occams Razor. Cannot be any simpler or easier said!
And then we swing to the opposite end of the spectrum with two women writing anti-gun messages? In my entire life I, nor anyone I know have NEVER once seen a gun just randomly go off and start spewing “pew pews” all by themselves!!! Has anyone out there witness a gun do that? Randomly start shooting on its own??? I just shake my head and think these people while they may have good intentions will never learn. The gun is a tool. The operator is defective, not the gun.
My final comment and observation: Not once in this media blitz has anyone mentioned anything about the shooters therapist. Why not? A really good reporter would dig into the therapists of these shooters. I’ll just leave it there. Any clear thinking person will know what is going on. Stay safe frens!!!
My deepest condolences to the families who lost their children. My thoughts and prayers go out to them and to the ones who got injured. May God work miracles in this country and bring about a whirlwind of change. May Christianity dominate once again. May the Lord bring swift judgement on the evil doers who have buried this country in turmoil, division, hatred, injustice and the corruption of our innocent children. I pray in the name of our Lord Jesus, Amen!!!!
I believe any priest, minister, Catholic brother, nun, who is pro-abortion, must have the devil within him or her. You cannot believe in God and think it is okay to take the life of an unborn child who has no say whether he/she lives or dies. Abortion is an abomination against God.
Excellent post. Thank you.
Why is this bullshit stickied? This shooting didn't happen. Sounds like a FED post. Nice to know this site allows that now, with ZERO decrement.
This is a long term anon that we are used to.
The level of trust we have in them is therefore high.
Here is what you are looking for. This whole thing is a fugazi.
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BtUZJyLO/anon-went-and-checked-out-the-ch/c/
https://greatawakening.win/p/19BtUZJhQe/another-coincidence-on-the-churc/c/
Thank you. When Satan takes a stand, no matter in what form, it is a good thing to flood that space with prayer and presence, if you can. That priest must be weary already. We have all cried at one point in our lives, "Father, why have you forsaken me?" Let us pray that men of good faith with pure hearts remain strong and fed with the Holy Spirit, as they attempt to console the inconsolable.
This is odd.I know that church and the Priest well also. He was not in the building when this happened and when he showed up, he was not allowed in. He never saw the body.
If you don't believe me, check the news, he was interviewed several times and talks about how he was off site and hasn't been allowed back yet and he hates it.
his response was simple: “Pray as the Holy Spirit leads you.”
I'm not gonna lie, that broke me. He sounds like a fantastic Priest. Sadly, the Priest at the Catholic Church we attend is vaccine damaged. He has serious autoimmune issues now, the Diocese had to bring in an associate Priest to help him out. I'm not even Catholic, but Father Gary is really fantastic.
My Wife is very traditional Catholic. The type that the FBI hate.