I'm betting that fattie doesn't know a THING about tactics and fighting a real urban war, whereas the National Guard is steeped in that kind of training. Not to mention that the NG probably has access to all kinds of intelligence and information on these gangbangers that can predict where they will be and let the NG know all their known associates. And then there's air support and drones...
The gangs don't realize just how much of a disadvantage they have, but will soon find out.
When I worked for law enforcement majority of them didn't understand we can look up them on social media, wiretaps, pen trace and triangulation of location based on cell phone towers. That was 15 years ago.
Exactly, we can get location within 5 feet which is close enough to drop a minor payload, kill only you and another gang member wirh minimal collateral damage.
We didn't kill anyone. We have courts here in the US where innocent till proven guilty and evidence was used to convict cartel members, murderers, etc.
Sounds like you are talking about drone strikes lol
In a limited metro city like Chicago, sure, I think the NG could roll over any poorly organized gang resistance, but if at some point in the near future, it became necessary to wage revolution against the government include our military, there is no way the military could defeat an army of armed citizens.
The below article was written in 1994. Lot of technology, especially with Drones. Still I don't think this would change the overall dynamics of a limited Military force against a humongous civilian population.
A revolution could be waged against the current American government far easier than you might imagine without careful examination. Consider:
The sheer numbers of firearms of all kinds in the hands of the American public would have made the American commanders in Viet Nam quake in their boots. We’re not talking junk equipment here, either. The average deer hunter with a .270 or .308 could give a platoon of regular troops more grief than they want. There was a special on the tube recently about military armaments on sale in the black market (including Stingers).
The population base from which revolutionaries could be recruited is massive – 250 million.
There are literally millions of well-trained men who served as officers and NCOs who learned face-to-face how guerrilla warfare works. They haven’t forgotten it, either.
There are millions of young men out there with military training and experience with weapons of every conceivable kind, who would make top-quality guerrilla troops.
Every one of the 100 counties in the state of North Carolina could field at least one full company that would be formidable in capability. If one assumes that North Carolina is no more capable than other states, that could amount to 180 divisions. These potential rebel troops would be fast-moving light infantry, with the capability of melting into the general population when necessary.
American military leaders would be in the position of having an inventory of high-tech weapons that they would be dependent upon your son or nephew to use against you. There would be no enemy states in which you could say that any weapon could be used against the rebels. They would be from each and every state and major city.
By the same token, there would be no sanctuary for the federal troops anywhere in the land. No matter where stationed, they would be subject to attack and harassment. The infrastructure on which the federal government depends would be rather easily disrupted by those who live there. Airfields and major lines of communications could be shut down and kept down for days at a time. Disruption of supplies to major bases and to centers of government would be simple. You don’t have to cut them off, just keep them hungry.
The federal government would be denied the use of all their major weaponry because they would still “own” the cities and villages. How do you justify bombing your own city just because there is a rebel company in it? One bombing would be the biggest recruiting drive ever for the rebel forces.
Now just how powerful do those 12 Army divisions and those three Marine divisions really look to you? Just how scary is the Air Force against America? What will the Navy do, shell all coastal cities? I don’t think so.
One of these days a truly charismatic individual is going to walk out of the heartland of America and point out that the Declaration of Independence has never been repealed and that it requires all citizens to rise up against an oppressive government. With the current attitude toward our government and the people who populate it, a massive groundswell of support for throwing the current crop to the dogs and starting over again might not be so difficult.
As for the ability of the American citizens to successfully wage a guerrilla war on their own government, the likes of which this world has never seen nor contemplated before, I am absolutely convinced that it could be done, and a lot more swiftly than many might believe possible. How many highly-capable long-range snipers can your county put together?
I wouldn't expect any of them can zero out a scope past 100m. They are used to their furthest target being only 50 at most. Us as citizens, sure, so it's premise I agree with. But we have moral obligations to each other, they don't really, they would turn on each other if the pressure is high enough id expect. Just my opinion
When I was in elementary school, me and my cousin were walking across this section of posted land. He shot a deer through the backbone, just behind the neck with a .22 rifle at a distance so far away I could barley see it, could not even tell if it was a deer, and I had great eyesight as a kid. Dropped it in it's tracks with a .22
That's what I was thinking. One of the the reason, I would think the military would have trouble against the entire U.S. citizen base is the country is so big that by the time the military got rolling, we would have time to organize/prepare.
I read a piece written by a Navy Seal instructor once. I have hunted, and hunted for it, but cannot find again. What he said is that most recruits that come from country boys already know about 90% of what they need to learn as a Navy Seal. He went into detail of what a country boy learns growing up. I can't remember how he put it, but could look back on my own growing up in country and say, "yup, I learned all that stuff growing up".
I'm betting that fattie doesn't know a THING about tactics and fighting a real urban war, whereas the National Guard is steeped in that kind of training. Not to mention that the NG probably has access to all kinds of intelligence and information on these gangbangers that can predict where they will be and let the NG know all their known associates. And then there's air support and drones...
The gangs don't realize just how much of a disadvantage they have, but will soon find out.
I'm willing to bet that 90% or more of them don't even know that their cell phone can be used as a tracking device.
They LOVE recording this crap for street cred, they certainly won't leave their phone behind.
When I worked for law enforcement majority of them didn't understand we can look up them on social media, wiretaps, pen trace and triangulation of location based on cell phone towers. That was 15 years ago.
Exactly, we can get location within 5 feet which is close enough to drop a minor payload, kill only you and another gang member wirh minimal collateral damage.
We didn't kill anyone. We have courts here in the US where innocent till proven guilty and evidence was used to convict cartel members, murderers, etc.
Sounds like you are talking about drone strikes lol
His tactics were learned from Call of Duty and Medal of Honor
He better have one hell of a kill/death ratio in real life to be talking like that.
They will soon FAFO
Kek
We have it all.
In a limited metro city like Chicago, sure, I think the NG could roll over any poorly organized gang resistance, but if at some point in the near future, it became necessary to wage revolution against the government include our military, there is no way the military could defeat an army of armed citizens.
The below article was written in 1994. Lot of technology, especially with Drones. Still I don't think this would change the overall dynamics of a limited Military force against a humongous civilian population.
Read here
A revolution could be waged against the current American government far easier than you might imagine without careful examination. Consider:
The sheer numbers of firearms of all kinds in the hands of the American public would have made the American commanders in Viet Nam quake in their boots. We’re not talking junk equipment here, either. The average deer hunter with a .270 or .308 could give a platoon of regular troops more grief than they want. There was a special on the tube recently about military armaments on sale in the black market (including Stingers).
The population base from which revolutionaries could be recruited is massive – 250 million.
There are literally millions of well-trained men who served as officers and NCOs who learned face-to-face how guerrilla warfare works. They haven’t forgotten it, either.
There are millions of young men out there with military training and experience with weapons of every conceivable kind, who would make top-quality guerrilla troops.
Every one of the 100 counties in the state of North Carolina could field at least one full company that would be formidable in capability. If one assumes that North Carolina is no more capable than other states, that could amount to 180 divisions. These potential rebel troops would be fast-moving light infantry, with the capability of melting into the general population when necessary.
American military leaders would be in the position of having an inventory of high-tech weapons that they would be dependent upon your son or nephew to use against you. There would be no enemy states in which you could say that any weapon could be used against the rebels. They would be from each and every state and major city.
By the same token, there would be no sanctuary for the federal troops anywhere in the land. No matter where stationed, they would be subject to attack and harassment. The infrastructure on which the federal government depends would be rather easily disrupted by those who live there. Airfields and major lines of communications could be shut down and kept down for days at a time. Disruption of supplies to major bases and to centers of government would be simple. You don’t have to cut them off, just keep them hungry.
The federal government would be denied the use of all their major weaponry because they would still “own” the cities and villages. How do you justify bombing your own city just because there is a rebel company in it? One bombing would be the biggest recruiting drive ever for the rebel forces.
Now just how powerful do those 12 Army divisions and those three Marine divisions really look to you? Just how scary is the Air Force against America? What will the Navy do, shell all coastal cities? I don’t think so.
One of these days a truly charismatic individual is going to walk out of the heartland of America and point out that the Declaration of Independence has never been repealed and that it requires all citizens to rise up against an oppressive government. With the current attitude toward our government and the people who populate it, a massive groundswell of support for throwing the current crop to the dogs and starting over again might not be so difficult.
As for the ability of the American citizens to successfully wage a guerrilla war on their own government, the likes of which this world has never seen nor contemplated before, I am absolutely convinced that it could be done, and a lot more swiftly than many might believe possible. How many highly-capable long-range snipers can your county put together?
I wouldn't expect any of them can zero out a scope past 100m. They are used to their furthest target being only 50 at most. Us as citizens, sure, so it's premise I agree with. But we have moral obligations to each other, they don't really, they would turn on each other if the pressure is high enough id expect. Just my opinion
I'm with you.
When I was in elementary school, me and my cousin were walking across this section of posted land. He shot a deer through the backbone, just behind the neck with a .22 rifle at a distance so far away I could barley see it, could not even tell if it was a deer, and I had great eyesight as a kid. Dropped it in it's tracks with a .22
Oh yeah, we would think superhuman shit, but that's how country men roll! I'm not that good I admit
The just ''spray the area''😃😃
Fascinating analysis, thank you!
Are you comparing these animal gangs and their threats to the 120 million man US. Militia who would only ACT on a rouge Gov.?
No I am not.
Its the organizing. You couldnt put together a coordinated resistance quick enough before the govern.ent picked you and your small group off.
That's what I was thinking. One of the the reason, I would think the military would have trouble against the entire U.S. citizen base is the country is so big that by the time the military got rolling, we would have time to organize/prepare.
Way more than half of the citizens would be on the military side and they are the ones who are better armed and "trained shooters"
I read a piece written by a Navy Seal instructor once. I have hunted, and hunted for it, but cannot find again. What he said is that most recruits that come from country boys already know about 90% of what they need to learn as a Navy Seal. He went into detail of what a country boy learns growing up. I can't remember how he put it, but could look back on my own growing up in country and say, "yup, I learned all that stuff growing up".
Yup!