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Must watch for all Anons who have legit questions about where this "Digital" thing is headed. An extreme digital skeptic interviews a digital red-piller. (www.youtube.com)
posted 258 days ago by bubble_bursts 258 days ago by bubble_bursts +124 / -0
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– LoneJury 23 points 258 days ago +23 / -0

The guest is full of crap. We should never consent to any form of control. Anyone who tells you differently shouldn’t be given time on anyone’s platform.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 20 points 258 days ago +20 / -0

He makes two important point:

  1. 97% of the financial system is already digital and captured. There is no realistic option to going back to "pure cash". There will always be numbers on computers and those numbers need to be accountable. So digital system can never be avoided.

  2. But the system we will have must be one where it can never be controlled and is not trust based

I know, if someone just reacts to words like "Digital" and becomes afraid, then they are not thinking rationally, but rather emotionally. These trap words are put in place for a reason. Like "Jews".

In anycase, my reason for sharing this is so people can be better informed into where we are headed. Its everyone's right to close their eyes and scream in fear, but its not gonna change anything. The future is digital, and it is what gives us freedom. Thanks for reading.

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– deleted 4 points 258 days ago +4 / -0
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– Godisglory1 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

Correct, don’t want digital anything. I want to go back where we were in the 1970’s 80’s 90’s. They were glorious days. Digital wil bring Armageddon and then Jesus will come again.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

one big problem i have with digital, is when the system goes down i can still use cash

I dont think we will be replacing cash anytime soon. The coming digital currencies based on Genius Act will replace the 97% digital stuff thats already there, but with accountability.

another problem i have with digital is that anyone of them can wipe your account out and you are done.

Not with Zero Knowledge proofs - all your data is only on your device. There is no central server. You make sure you back up your data on multiple drives etc.

And with decentralized systems like blockchains, the data is everywhere - on all user devices - and hence cannot be "wiped out"

The new system will be a commbination of next gen blockchains + zero proofs.

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– deleted 2 points 256 days ago +2 / -0
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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 256 days ago +1 / -0

Don't trust me fren, esp since we are headed into a "trustless" system!

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– Knotnow 1 point 258 days ago +1 / -0

The Bible tells us we won't be able to buy or sell without the mark of the Beast. That's not necessarily digital. It could be the way a driver's license or covid shot card is/was required to purchase/do things (I have to show my DL in order to buy allergy meds, regardless of means of payment).

Also, the Beast system is coming. We are not told to fight it, we are just informed it is coming.

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– inspoken 3 points 258 days ago +3 / -0

We are not told anything. We have free will but how we are told what happens to those that worship the beast.

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– Qled 1 point 258 days ago +1 / -0

I thought the mark of the beast was going to be bar code tattoos?

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– Knotnow 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

That's man's interpretation trying to fit the Scripture (Revelation 13 & 14) into likely technology of the day. It says there will be a mark on the forehead or the right hand.

Revelation 14:1, says that 144K redeemed have the name of the Lamb (Christ) on their foreheads. Is this a counter-tatoo? No one believes that. Revelation 1:1 says that it is a book of "signs," which are real things with spiritual significance. The number 144 is the spiritually significant number of 12x12. There were twelve sons of Jacob, 12 disciples, and the dimensions of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 21:16 are 12K stadia.

So maybe it will be a literal, physical mark, but many believe it is more on the lines of symbolically meaning to place faith and reliance on the Beast's system. Those who don't opt-in will be shut out of society. It will be the ultimate cancel culture.

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– Godisglory1 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

💯 % correct. Mark of the beast and that’s we are heading.

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– SOGWAP 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Does blockchain fit number 2? A positive control that has no outside control over it.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Blockchains do fit 2, but each comes with its own pluses and minuses. Ultimately the underlying mathematical problem of distributed consensus is a very hard problem to solve and each blockchain makes its own compromises. Bitcoin does it at the cost of burning energy, Ripple does it at the cost of full decentralization, and so on.

O am hoping there is a new tech yet to be unveiled that solves this problem while not making any compromises.

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– RandoMando2A 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

Sounded like a bunch of NESARA/GESARA crap. Sovereign Fund? High Basic Income? Pfft! As if it wouldn’t require the mark to join in on that.

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– winn 1 point 256 days ago +1 / -0

Honestly I feel like anons don't even anon now that Trump is back in office. They left their brains in 2020

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– winn 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

I love how he just erm umm'd some of the crucial questions he was asked then hurried onto another feel good promo. Man what are we doing lol

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– Qled 1 point 258 days ago +1 / -0

The internet is control. You no longer have a direct way to control your reputation. Part of the Great Awakening will be removing internet access for most people. We don't need it, and it is actively harming us. For thousands of years, humans did not have the internet, and did perfectly fine. It's no coincidence that once so many people joined this artificial world that now people don't know what their gender is, or what flavor of ice cream they like. The internet should be for utilitarian and emergency purposes only. No social media, no message boards, and even news should only be for emergency broadcasts. Regular news can come via the paper.

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– QDay 3 points 257 days ago +3 / -0

Where we coming up with that theory.

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– Qled 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Yes

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– Godisglory1 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Agreed, I don’t like the internet but something that I like about it is that we found the evil disciples corruption so now we all know what’s going on underground

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– Qled 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

We already knew this stuff. Our grandparents and great grandparents knew how to deal with evil. It isn't like this stuff just came from nowhere. Without the internet, things like porn had to be acquired in person. This made it much more difficult, and easier to be caught and shamed. Communities meant more then. Now days, you can access so much evil from your own home. I mean, my kids talk about watching people on Youtube play videogames. Not even playing themselves, but just watching other kids do it. Adults now like to watch others have sex. Cuckolding has become huge on the porn sites. There's so much of it, it is drowning out other categories, making searches difficult. This is the kind of degeneracy that the internet is causing.

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– Godisglory1 1 point 255 days ago +1 / -0

I don’t even know what is Cu…olding, plus I am always at the church. I am praying for humanity. This is getting really bad.

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– SOGWAP 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

I would be ok if most of the internet went away.

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– Qled 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Right? You can feel how it affects all of us. We really don't need it. If we make it illegal for non-essential purposes, then we all won't waste so much time.

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– Godisglory1 1 point 255 days ago +1 / -0

Me too.

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– TaQo 13 points 258 days ago +13 / -0

Within the first few minutes...Guest:

Money is the root of all evil...

Without missing a beat....Nino:

Perfect segue! Buy gold from our sponsor....

Instant reminder exactly why I don't watch Nino, Juan and friends....

Interesting tidbits about ZKP... we'll see... I guess...

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– deleted 12 points 258 days ago +12 / -0
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– LateToTheShow 8 points 258 days ago +8 / -0

Go one step further….

The love of money is the root of MANY evils.

Not “all.”

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– Qled 2 points 258 days ago +2 / -0

Not “all.”

You need to read the bible. It says all. I know there are people who write their own bibles, but there is only one that is perfect, and that is the KJV. That is why President Trump's bible is only available in KJV.

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– Knotnow 3 points 257 days ago +3 / -0

Nah, KJV is not perfect. Anyone who does word studies discovers that. It has glaring errors, like translating lampstands as candlesticks. They had candlesticks in England, not in Israel.

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– winn 4 points 257 days ago +4 / -0

KJV literally opens with a preface from the translators where they say "improvements to this translation are welcomed"

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– Qled 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

KJV was the bible that Jesus used.

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– Knotnow 3 points 256 days ago +3 / -0

Haha, that's funny.

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– BGridd 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

KJV has authentication throughout it. That authentication is broken by modern versions

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– deleted 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0
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– Aspie 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

The Bible says "all evil." The Bible is correct. Always.

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– winn 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks for this, I was about to say that.

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– Aspie 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

One of them did say "the love of money." I always pay attention when that verse from 1 Timothy comes up, to make sure "love" is included.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 7 points 258 days ago +7 / -0

That part had me almost slip in the shower, lol.

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– Strelnieks 3 points 257 days ago +3 / -0

I like that Nino wears a hat with a photo of his own visage on it. Such a classy paytriot.

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– redtoe-skipper 5 points 258 days ago +5 / -0

In the Netherlands they now implement face recognition to sell stuff in a supermarket, based on NIX21, meaning, you have to be over 21 to buy alcohol and tobacco.

It is going to be interesting to watch what will happen, whether the Dutch generally will reject doing business with ass clowns who implement these kind of measures.

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– Q20191776 5 points 258 days ago +5 / -0

The important part resides in the privacy defaults set in the technology. Do regular old people do configurations of their stuff?

u/#badsocial


God provides.

"They" may call it "bits and bytes" but its really hard to eat it.

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– deleted 4 points 258 days ago +4 / -0
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– inspoken 2 points 258 days ago +2 / -0

They make good paperweights.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

Because gold and silver is what would be backing the digital currencies, amongst other assets, that you can get your hands on!

Just so the point is clear - if someone says to you that the whole world should run on cash, would you ask them "If everything is cash whats the reason to buy gold and silver" ?

Decentralized Digital currencies and Paper currencies have a lot in common, with the digital version adding extra level of integrity and transparency, if implemented correctly.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 256 days ago +1 / -0

because the US dollar is supposed to be backed by gold.

Why in heavens do you think thats the case? It hasnt been the case since 1973 when Nixon took US off the gold standard.

if everything is digital how do you turn gold/silver into anything?

Whoa whoa, slow down tiger. You are jumping to far too many assumptions. Firstly, no one said that everything will be digital. He is simply pointing out that 97% of the current financial system is already digital, and we need this digital part to be transparent and accountable, and hence it will be replaced by Genius Act based digital system.

And secondly, nothing changes wrt gold and silver. They continue to be commodities, but instead of manipulated markets, they will be traded in transparent and accountable markets with no paper manipulations etc.

if you do have gold/silver, won't the digital police say it's worthless, because you didn't turn it over to them and have them add it to your crypto wallet?

My fren, what are you smoking? Honestly, whoever is tellign you this, you have to stop listening to them and paying attention to reality.

if you have physical gold and silver and want to buy something from your neighbor when everything is crypto, are they going to accept physical gold/silver?

Again, read what I wrote above. There is no "everything is crypto". There will still be cash. There will still be gold and silver and whatever else you want to sell. In addition there will be digital currency thats fully transparent, accountable and privacy based.

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– inspoken 4 points 258 days ago +4 / -0

Nino really has the craziest people on doesn't he. He lost me at "The bible is a book of laws" kek

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– RandoMando2A 4 points 257 days ago +4 / -0

I agree with your sentiment. The Bible is, however, the foundation of trust law. He was right in that regard. It’s unclear whether he notices the Bible’s importance to our eternal existence though.

He sounded like a false prophet to me.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

He lost me at "The bible is a book of laws" kek

There is a lot of depth to that statement. His implication that Bible is a book only of laws is wrong, but I think he meant it as "Bible is the original book of laws"

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– inspoken 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

Putting it that way makes a lot of sense!

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– Aspie 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

I wish the show host hadn't interrupted so much with baseless "what ifs." The video could have been under 30 minutes, if the guest had been allowed to just tell what he had to say. Perhaps someone can edit the video and take him out of it.

He was complaining about the shutdown, saying all those thousands of people were gone from government and that they would be replaced with AI. That's idiotic. If we don't need those people at all, we surely don't need an AI to replace worthless people doing worthless jobs. I have studied AI, and I have found it seriously lacking at present. It will have to develop a lot in the next ten years to even be usable for simple things I would want to do with it. I tested ChatGPT a while back with simple tests that it failed completely. I asked it to search the internet and tell me who my father's father was. It gave me an uncle's name. The information actually is out there on the internet in multiple locations, but ChatGPT failed. And it's default is to make up an answer if it doesn't know. It won't just tell me it doesn't know. So AI will not be any help in genealogy work. It will also be many years before there is a home computer that can train AI in all the information I currently possess in my office. I want an AI that can search through the contents of over 100,000 books and answer any questions I have. I want an AI that operates solely in my office with no connection to the outside. Okay, I just rambled too much here, so I'll go on.

Most of what people consider money today is already digital: online payments, debit cards, credit cards, direct deposit, etc. I, like many old-school people, use cash as much as possible, even though that isn't real money either. Only gold and silver are real money. I do work on the side for a very wealthy man who is also a conservative. He could pay me electronically, but he chooses to send me regular checks from his personal account via mail.

The "zero proof" stuff seems like a good idea. But there still has to be a "someone" somewhere who sets it up and controls it. It has to reside on computer servers somewhere. The very oldest people don't have the background knowledge to understand tech, and the very youngest are too stupid to care about tech, except the tiny bit necessary to operate a cellphone or game machine. I'm in the middle, although in my 70s, and I know tech very well. I will have to see a more technical demonstration of precisely how this can work and provide the benefits we need.

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– bubble_bursts [S] 1 point 257 days ago +1 / -0

First off, thanks for this comment. Its the kind of discussion I come to this site for.

I wish the show host hadn't interrupted so much with baseless "what ifs."

Its typical Nino strategy. He always plays devil's advocate, on behalf of this more black pilled listeners, and it always works. Right now, we have too many patriots who have let the pendulum swing too far to the right, so to speak, when it comes to anything "digital", esp after the Plandemic days. So, this kind of devil's advocacy makes them feel like they are being heard, and their big fears are being addressed.

He did the same thing during "46" years, always complaining to the point of sounding blackpilled himself, while letting himself be talked out of that despondency by the various people he interviewed.

There is also the aspect where he cuts of juicy bits so he can discuss them on his payed channel, often using youtube censorship as excuse. I think in this video there wasn't a whole lot of that just one or two instances.

I have studied AI, and I have found it seriously lacking at present. It will have to develop a lot in the next ten years to even be usable for simple things I would want to do with it. I tested ChatGPT a while back with simple tests that it failed completely.

I hate using the word AI as much as possible, so I will use LLM (large language models) because for firstly thats what they are - simple language models, and secondly, it reminds us that there is no "intelligence" and they are not "beings" but just tools.

So the utility of LLMs depends vastly on how you use them. They canbe extremely powerful if wielded correctly, but extremely disappointing if wielded wrongly.

Imo, wielding LLMs correctly requires us to decide which part of the hard work we want to unload on them, and which part of the work- esp thinking aspects - we want to do ourselves.

For instance, not withstanding the fact that it offered your Uncle's name, I would argue that LLMs can be very powerful in scraping genealogy data, compiling them, deducing connections through large number of clues that might be hard to manually analyse, and then build a system that would provide the answers, rather than using directly to find answers.

LLMs are also great at obtaining a list of very relevant source material for nay research, summarize them, prioritize them, while the human does the actual research.

I have been a coder for 35 years, and my entire perspective of software development has completely changed in the past 3 weeks after GPT-5 was released. I can now build complex software in minutes and I haven't written a single line of code in the past 3 weeks while i have build 20+ apps for myself, and even though I am a hardcore coder, I am enjoying this experience.

And the growth of LLMs is exponentially faster than any other technology. The day I first accessed the internet in early 90s, to the day it became a somewhat useful tool for me, was almost 4 years (even though I used to be engrossed in the early days of internet daily). And almost 10 years before it became a tool that non technical people can use.

Compare that to the day Meta released their first LLM - April of this year. And in 6 months, it has completely changed the way I have been doing a core part of my life for 35 years.

I want an AI that can search through the contents of over 100,000 books and answer any questions I have.

This is one thing I want as well. They have something called RAGs right now and I set one up, but they dont work as well right now. But the quality of LLMs, and esp the reasoning LLMs is growing so fast that I think in the next 2 months I will be able to build a system like this that would work better than a human. If I do it, I will definitely ping you.

I want an AI that operates solely in my office with no connection to the outside. Okay, I just rambled too much here, so I'll go on.

This is my personal passion as well. For the longest time (since April that is) I have been using local LLMs running on my own Nvidia to do my work. But unfortunately the computing power is too little and the quality of these LLMs is very limited, when you compare it to GPT-4 or GPT-5, for instance.

So I have shelved this passion for now, and embraced GPT-5. But I know that as the math behind LLMs become advanced, and the GPU hardware tech keeps advancing, pretty soon we will be able to run GPT-4/GPT-5 level LLMs locally.

I think that would be really necessary for companies working on sensitive information to be able to start using LLMs well.

Only gold and silver are real money.

Depending on how you define "real money" to be, if you use an objective definition that money is something that has inherent value, then only a quantum of energy or a quantum of computational power will qualify as "real money". These two have the power to materially transform things, and hence have inherent value.

But if we define money to be the something that people are willing to exchange for something of real value - still a subjective definition - gold and silver are by far the closest to real money

The problem is not even that. The real problem is that money has stopped being "thing of value" and has become "debt".

The "zero proof" stuff seems like a good idea. But there still has to be a "someone" somewhere who sets it up and controls it. It has to reside on computer servers somewhere.

This is the beauty of "Zero Knowldge Proof" actually. You dont need an external computer server to carry out the transaction. If I were to want to verify your age, firstly, you will only exchange data with me. Neither of us will need to exchange data with any other server.

You will have a encrypted certificate on your device given to you by the authority that issued your ID. I will have an encrypted key of the same authority on my device.

I will use my key to validate a piece of data generated by your device using your certificate and thats all. There is absolutely no necessity to talk to any external computer.

Of course, some people may choose to store their private certificates on a cloud server, but thats like people leaving their bitcoins on the exchanges. Its a stupid thing to do, but people are free to be stupid.

The very oldest people don't have the background knowledge to understand tech, and the very youngest are too stupid to care about tech,

This is allthe more reason why we need to put in a trustless decentralized system in place, so that future generation does not need to worry about it.

But making all this work ina. user friendly way while still keeping it secure is a challenge that comes in at implementation phase. What I am really concerned is for the digital warriors to always watch like hawks on any implementation of these digital ID systems, to ensure they are zero proof, not centralized and protects privacy at source - not sending any private data to any servers, period.

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– Aspie 2 points 253 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the reply.

I refer to "real money" as what the US Constitution says. Congress was supposed to "coin money," but they gave that job to the Fed, and then started doing a bunch of other stuff that's unconstitutional. Also, gold has always been money for thousands of years. It's physical and fungible. Anyone can understand it. I'm still on the fence about blockchain money. That's another subject I need to research, if I just had more hours in the day.

I will be glad when I can have a computer system at home that has the horsepower, memory, speed, and storage to do what I want. I built my current computer 13 years ago. It was state of the art then, but not today, even though it can do everything else I want it to do. It has just 8GB of memory. I don't remember what the GPU is, but it was supposed to have been top of the line 13 years ago. I actually went to a computer store, got a shopping cart, and asked an employee to walk around the store with me to pick the best of everything, from the case and power supply to the CPU, GPU, hard drives, and Blu-ray writers. I suppose, when this one breaks badly, I'll have to build another and switch to Linux.

I have over 100 TB of storage, with hundreds of thousands of books, magazines, and newspapers, thousands of short videos, a ton of TV shows and movies, and over a million music files. On top of having a local AI search all that and index it, I would also eventually want to access it all remotely with a cellphone and do it securely.

I want a lot, and I'm in my 70s, so I also want it soon.

Whatever you figure out would put me far ahead of where I am now. I took computer classes many years ago, and before that, around 1975, I started my self education, buying my first computer in 1982. I have learned SQL and PHP on my own just enough to program stuff on my own websites. I have learned some about AI and the LLMs, but I have a hundred other projects going at the same time, including writing a book for a rich guy in another state and then continuing writing books for my own account to sell online.

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– Ddrake517 2 points 257 days ago +2 / -0

I want to know what happens if the power goes out.

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