Start shaming India and China. If you want real change. The mass of plastic that is dumped in the Ocean via India is shocking.

When I was in high school in the 1970's they said an ice age was coming in 10 years. This was after the acid rain nonsense.

I was so afraid it was going to be so cold we would all die.

Then I started to think why were dinosaurs extinct? Global warming or was it the SUVs they drove.

Then I researched Maurice Strong who made up global warming.

Not one prediction came to fruition.

It is the biggest hoax ever and we don't need to play their games.

Why does "our side" never talk about these issues? Because they are F&G.

Look into plastics recycling. That should tell you everything you need to know.

Rockefeller > big oil (pharma) > climate change > "recycle" > sell more

Even the liberal rags report on parts of this.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-the-public-into-believing-plastic-would-be-recycled

https://climateintegrity.org/news/view/not-just-climate-big-oil-lied-about-plastic-recycling-too-and-must-be-held-accountable

Edit - Here is a 68 page report all about it https://climateintegrity.org/uploads/media/Fraud-of-Plastic-Recycling-2024.pdf

The reason it exists is so they have a ton of hysterical articles on global warming that the globalists can piggyback their real messages on. Standard magic trick. Look at this fake dumpster fire here while I move the money and/or blackmail portfolio some place safer from prying eyes. Get the heat off so to speak. The truth is inconvenient, for them.

Same story. Class of 2010. It's all social engineering.

And there are tech solutions for waste disposal. Plastic-eating bacteria, hemp products...

Almost none of the left's 'green' efforts have been in good faith.

China doesn't recycle, they just burn it.

Google : India plastic bags / images - don't do it while you're eating, will tell you all you need to know.

Enough time has passed with the global warming hysteria that none of their doom and gloom predictions have come true. The question for the other person is why are you still buying into it?

China, India, Africa, and Philippines are the absolute worst at littering and destroying nature. It’s not even close. If you want real change, you need to change them.

Search GAW using the term "global cooling" and you'll find lots of good info. Also search "polar bear" and "polar bears" and "polar ice".

Bottom line is the entire climate change topic is fake. In this posts you'll find comments with good links to break it down.

Many moons ago, I majored in environmental studies at a liberal arts college and dabbled in radical environmental activism. While my degree is basically worthless, I did personally benefit from learning about ecology, biology, botany and mycology.

Some food for thought: Climate change is not based in science, and its adherents suffer from a religious type orthodoxy. From global cooling in the 70's to the hole in the ozone layer, to global warming, none of these doomsday predictions have come to pass. Now they just call it "muh climate change" and what does that really mean? Of course the climate is always changing, so any kind of "abnormal" weather viewed from our very limited human perspective can be blamed on the boogeyman of climate change and used to instill fear in the populace, especially younger people.

A couple of talking points for normies and/or lefties: Where i live, the weather forecast can never be accurately predicted more than a few days out. Just recently i read about the crazy storms that were supposed to lash the mid-Atlantic region that never happened. Being a weather forecaster is the only profession where you can be consistently wrong and still keep your job. So if we cannot accurately predict what the weather will be next week or next month, how accurate are the climate predictions of hundreds of years down the line? Ask an environmentalist what the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is. I have never had anyone answer this question correctly, including dozens of my college friends with similar degrees. The answer is 0.4%. The lowest amount of CO2 that you can have in the atmosphere that supports plant life is 0.3%. So CO2 levels are actually very low, contrary to what we have been told by the "experts."

Ultimately i think the climate change narrative is a limited hangout meant to distract us from real environmental concerns that we the people could actually have a positive impact on, like pollution in our waterways for example.

The alarmism about climate is all based on models that predict the future. First of all, the models have massive flaws. But most importantly, all of the models have proven to be wrong with their predictions. Next: we need more CO2, not less. More green, more food and more Oxygen for the people and animals to keep them healthy. Next: Methane is a climate stabilizing gas and a lot of it comes from the Chinese rice fields.

We bury or recycle most of our plastics. Work still needs to be done to fix some of the side effects of certain plastics. Other countries send them to the ocean. There is an area in the Pacific Ocean where a lot of them collect. We are finally starting to clean that area up. But we should charge the other countries for the cleanup.

Democrats are the reason we have a lot of nasty chemicals and metals in our water and food chain. MAHA is the path to better health for all.

Only the left cares about nature? Really? So explain why they can't define a woman. In nature there are 2 genders male and female but the left keeps trying to change that. In nature it's survival of the fittest, not the weirdest or weakest. Nature doesn't push DEI only merit. Nature doesn't believe in killing healthy fetuses. Nature needs CO2 for plants and trees to grow. Nature doesn't try to ban what it needs to survive. The left needs to manufacture "man-made" disasters in order to extract money from the pearl clutching public so they can enrich themselves. Obama was so concerned about the polar ice caps melting and rising sea levels that he bought ocean front property on Martha's Vineyard. Al Gore's many houses and massive fuel burning jet released tons of CO2 emissions that he railed about every chance he got. But somehow his rantings never applied to him. He turned climate change into a big source of personal wealth. Interesting how that happens with the left. Crisis after crisis becomes a source of wealth for them. Their motto is never let a crisis go to waste.

You are right, don't even second guess yourself. I would have just said that climate change is a distraction from the actual toxic waste situations we have - often for green products, like lithium batteries etc. It's a deception to avoid caring about the environment really - CO2 obsession "sucks the oxygen out of the room" for everything else! Everyone on the right also (for real) cares about the environment but not the fraudulent solutions offered, which are just there to covertly control and prevent. It's a tangle that takes years of self learning, so don't expect more than they put into understanding it.

lower 30yr old, my guess you are 27-35, I was getting yelled at by teachers and students for pointing out the political and false facts being presented as "settled science" in science class (great teaching let me tell you). Most people who had access to the internet at home were the first to call it out at school is my thoughts on that age group and where technology was at the time. Mind you this is 2005-06 so you had to know how to navigate with and without google. About the same time some of us ran into Infowars

And why does our side never talk about these issues?

Let me start off with why I dont talk about these issues:

Is there a problem with destroying the environment we live in? Yes.

Is it because of too much CO2 emissions? No

Is there a manmade global warming? No

Are there too many plastics in our daily use ? Yes

Is there too much waste in our daily use ? Yes

What is the real reason for this ? We live in a fractional reserve system, which is a Ponzi scheme and by definition needs to keep extracting every ounce of real value out of the world just to keep itself afloat. This is much much deeper topic but I am happy to expand on how the fractional reserve system leads to decay in the society, leading to destruction of anything of value - including our environment, and why it floods the market with disposable junk. This whole concept is explained very well in this book you can download. You will understand why fractional reserve system is essentially a financial slavery system.

So the real problem I do want to talk about is NOT global warming or CO2, but how they are being used to blame the fact that we live in a financial slavery system

Why am I so confident that CO2 does not cause global warming?

1. I love to ask this question to anyone who talks about global warming:

What is the percentage of CO2 in atmosphere ?

After asking the question you gotta let them think about it. Dont let them say "I dont know, you tell me". Ask them to take a guess. A wild guess? If they refuse to reply, prompt them "You think 5%? Or maybe 10%? Or do tou think its much lower than that? Like 1%?"

Let the question ferment in their head for a bit, and in my experience even Science students dont always know the answer to this question.

The importance of this question is to make them realise that higher the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, higher its potential impact on the temperature of the whole world.

So whats the answer? Make sure you give this answer as dramatically as possible:

ZERO POINT ZERO FOUR PERCENT. Thats right. CO2 makes up 0.0425 % of the atmosphere. And, even if we agree that it has been increasing since they started "measuring" it (we will come to it later) it was supposedly 0.0315 % in 1959.

So, we are to believe that something that supposedly increased 0.00017 % in the atmosphere every year has caused so much heating that there is "global warming" ?

Thats 0.35 % increase of something that is only 0.03% in the atmosphere, over 60 years thats supposedly caused multiple degrees of temperature increase.

Let that sink in. If the person is acting in good faith, a moderate or simply curious, this fact will really rattle them.

Give an example: Take a bucket with 10000 white balls in the son and measure its temperature. Take another ball - a black ball that absorbs heat, and throw it into the bucket. How much "hotter" the whole bucket would become, do you reckon?

When you understand the magnitude of utterly gibberish, fake, false information we are made to believe, you will slowly understand the nefariousness of this "global warming" crap.

2. Okay, we are not scientists. Scientists have meticulously proven that 0.3% increase in CO2 can cause a few degrees increase, right?

right?

We would all think that to be the case. But the shocking answer iS NO.

There is NOT ONE EXPERIMENT that shows that 0.01% increase in CO2 will raise the temperature by even one degree C.

EVERY single "proof" they have are based on "mathematical modelling", which, if you remember Covid times, tells us how well these models work. In reality, its nothing but a tool of deception.

If you cannot prove a hypothesis with a repeatable, observable experiment, you cannot claim it is true.

"C'mon BB you are lying to me. They have this experiment they do in the school all the time. Look, this smart black lady does it right here on YouTube"

I like this video actually because it shows how deceptive these people are. She starts off saying "CO2 is a vital part of the atmosphere, and the problem happens when there is too much of it" and then she proceeds to do the experiment.

(Remember that the too much she is referring to is 0.01% increase in CO2)

She puts a spoonful of soda and adds a spoonful of vinegar and what she is doing is flooding the experiment with CO2. She is not increasing CO2 by 0,01% but by something like 5000%.

Here are the actual calculations

In a real experiment, you will add 25 micrograms of acetic acid and 35 micrograms of bicarb soda and if you can show me that it raises the temparature by even 1 degree C, then yeah, sure, I will agree that CO2 might becausing global warming.

3. How do we even measure this change in CO2 that we are so confident is increasing? Answer - one observatory in Maui. One observatory in Colorado. Most of the calculations we see in science is based on the numbers from NOAA ESRL which is collected from one single place in the entire planet.

4. Why did they abandon the term "Global Warming" and switch to "Climate Change" ? Because none of the predictions they made due to the global warming came to pass. So they changed the deception by making it something that cannot be welldefined - "Climate Change"

I can go on and on. But CO2 and Global Warming IS NOT what we should be talking about. We should be talking about the deliberate forced destruction of the earth, by this slavery financial system, that forces its slaves - us humans - to destroy our own environment, and then blames it on things like CO2 and uses it to control us even tighter.

Yes, Carbon tax was supposed to be the replacement financial system to the existing "Petro dollar" that was used to control the world for almost 4 decades.

I usually ask if they prefer kool-aid, and something like those are conspiracy theory that did not get proven true

Because it's all manipulated lies. Plenty of real science out there that proves it, not paid for paper pusherswriting what they are told

China is the biggest polluter on the planet. But yet no one calls them out for it. In addition, they are exporting their environmental damage globally through Belt and Road. Why don't these enviro activists set their sites on the real offenders instead of trying to destroy Western economies?