For some reason DJT seems to be distancing himself from MAGA (epstein -case in point). Not to be confused with Anons, who are watching a movie. There is still the Anon segment holding on, for sure. It is why we are all here on GAW. But, rank and file MAGA ( not Anons) and even more so, DJT supporters who wouldn’t consider themselves ‘MAGA’ are really disappointed lately (my observation anyway).
There were other parts of the interview above where he didn’t really seem to care about ‘MAGA’ in general, e.g. the question about 600K Chinese students. Not a good look imhop.
But hey, maybe we get 50 year mortgages (so the banks get richer) and a 2K stimmie’ check when the economy is ‘better than it has ever been’. Maybe I’m dooming here a bit but the fact that the cv vax is still in wide distribution and still on the children’s schedule has me a bit……mind-blown and…….cranky. How can we let untold generational damage be done to our kids in this manner? Are they all saline now? Sometimes you have to step out of the bubble and ask WTF? It is healthy :-). Maybe not?
Oh forgot…… are we going to bail out the AI bubble too? IDK.
Personally, I like to think (dream) I’d actually do some good if called. There are some here that could, for sure!!!
In reality - I could not take the pressure and politics - don’t have the stomach for it. I do admire the administration, top-down, for being able to survive the environment in which they subject them and their families to on a daily basis.
I just hate being lied to though…. At this point, the lies seem to be directed at the ‘base’ to a degree (not Anons, who are in the know).
I think with my personal experiences and sometimes terrifying mental state, id probably do really well, seeing once you go through things like that, you're on a completely different level of mental fortitude from maintaining, lol. I have dealt with a lot of abuse and gaslighting most of my life from family, employers, business prospects and even people I barely know. The weak attack the strong, and that's what it really boils down to.
This is a great take that would really explain our function in this - we understand that it’s a movie and the plot winds, so when optics distance is needed with MAGA to avoid looking tyrannical, we hold the line, and help hold MAGA at bay from their passions on the front end, then lead them back in on the back end.
Pretty brilliant mechanic. Small wonder the shills are always trying to get in and bash us with bad optics and dooming.
That is my thought. DJT needs to provide distance from certain ‘movements’ in order to not look tyrannical and remove the enemy from being able to point the finger.
I think we could agree that may have been in play with cov / vax 1st term.
Remember who DJT is and where he came from. His history speaks for itself, is Turning Point USA the counter to MAGA? A lot of questions to be thought about.
Not sure if I understood ‘ counter to MAGA’ above. However, I have no doubt TPUSA could be weaponized against DJT, if it were to fall in the wrong hands. I don’t know how effective it would be. Lot of factors such as timing and core issues would need to be considered. Is it possible it was a trojan horse all along? IDK. A lot of the funding points to one direction.
I’ll say many friends who voted for DJT who know nothing of ‘the plan’ are not really happy right now, and for ‘reasonable’ reasons.
These are people, who for example, might have some insights to epstein, but not comet ping-pong. They are still employed, but haven’t seen the cost of living come down a bit.
In my mind, there is no question he is currently insulting his ‘base’ of that ilk, and maybe some on the fringe of Q too.
Obviously, personal beliefs are tied to your faith in the plan, if you follow Q. If you don’t, (fair chunk of base) it is tied to faith in DJT and Co. Sentiment is slipping among my peers. YMMV.
Personally, I’m ready for some Truth to come out regarding lot’s of things but have yet to hear it on most. We need the Truth w/o Q decoder-ring level analysis asap, especially on the vax imhop. We may very well be continuing to poison a generation.
There was one - it was a link to some complex analysis that explained that it took power away from the fed and gave it to the people (my poor tdlr there, I’ m not doing the write up justice). I didn’t quite get through it…. I’m more of an Occam’s Razor type though. Debt slaves for life now on the table!!!! Yay!!!!!, not.
This, plus I take it that because of the exfoliating of jobs the "talent" is lacking because of a lack of practice and the next workforce will need to relearn these outsourced skills
Just take a look at US college students today. Half of them don't belong in higher education programs to begin with. And, the other half of them had their brains rotted out through DEI led college courses that taught them nothing of any substance.
And, all of them came from US Dept. of Education primary schooling. Relatively speaking, the US workforce is about as dumb as it has ever been in history.
Yes, it seems true to me. Regrettably, it's also true in the UK and, here in Greece, parents have to pay to send their kids to evening class if they want them to get a decent education.
This is such a bad look for being "America First". Fuck this shit. Deport more and stop illegal and legal migration. Fuck your legal migration talking points. mic drop
Trump is 100% right. People who haven't worked in years are nearly unemployable. Lazy, stupid, hooked on drugs and medications, brain damaged by the vaxx, illiterate, insane, indoctrinated by school room liberal and progressive MK Ultra trans bullshit. Many of these people in the unemployment lines are mentally and physically broken. They bring nothing but problems to the workplace. Don't believe it? HIRE ONE. Then shut the f up while you lick your wounds and repair your damaged equipment. This comment is PATHETIC. Of course it's going to take some time to CLEAN UP, EDUCATE, TRAIN people because stupid fucks like the commenter on this thread DID NOTHING for the last 5 decades while the Dept of Education WRECKED generation after generation, each one getting progressively worse. Meanwhile China, and India graduates can run circles around our graduates who can't even read. Wake up or get out SHILLS.
I would guess that while our colleges teaching liberal arts and DEI, the higher education in India and outer nations were teaching computer coding and things that you might actually need to make a living.
No, it is fair to get pissed about this (without blackpilling of course, which I am not doing). I listened to the whole thing again and I think what Trump is talking about is 1. O1 Visas (Which I linked in my other comment) and 2. When Trump secured investments into the US from companies, and into new buildings for those companies, the companies he dealt with I guess need their people from across the ocean (from Japan, in Toyota's case) to help build the new plants.
My friend told me over the weekend that our corporation is going to lay off 5% of the workforce and it's sole purpose is to bring down body count. Can you guess how many Indians we have? Who do you think they'll lay off? It will be american citizens.
DJT is getting tangled up in economics considerations
Ideally offshoring jobs or bringing in third world laborers economically saves us in labor costs, freeing our labor to do better work for higher pay
In practice though this either takes USA jobs elsewhere (offshoring) or imports the third world here (immigration) so I guess we are realizing the pure economics view is a little short-sighted
Importing laborers here is probably not viable
Offshoring jobs can work a bit so long as I'd say both that better jobs are created here and backup self-sufficiency plans are in place if needed
Example: say we offload growing our food more to another country. If they decide they don't want to feed us, now we have a security issue of getting fed. So to some extent this is another problem with the pure economics view, not factoring in some of these risks
So... he stumbled a bit on this one. Our smart Americans should be able to build the missles. Our "dumb" ones should be able to do "grunt work". But we should be able to intelligently offshore if we do it carefully (or to buy certain goods from other countries)
This is what I call the cognitive revolution. The country that snatches up the most smart people wins. We are not talking about the grunt work people. As long as there are new starts, there will be an outside need for smart people.
I don’t think many countries send their best and brightest. Not any more anyway (they did at one time maybe). Most of Europe and Asia have their own elite universities and they keep their best. The US academic system is for wannabe-patriots who believe in the USA and might want to settle, ‘travelers / bohemian types’ and……‘spies’. Just my thoughts - no real background on this…..
Two things attract this type of people: money and more importantly cutting edge work. $20T or more investment on top of our own investment will make the US the playground these people are looking for. It will be a mix of onshore and offshore people, all working for American companies. There is often a significant in the same room component to this work, so the ratio will typically lean towards onshore.
Valid points, however foreign companies building manufacturing facilities here aren’t American companies and that is much of what is being talked about. Hell - they will all be automated to the hilt anyway right? So, how many lower-level / mid-level middle class jobs are we talking about.
I’ve been tied to product mfg. my whole career and we do still have the talent and skills to build properly. Dare I say innovate as well. I do also understand we have a knowledge gap though. The basket weaver degrees are being handed out like candy will always be useless, There are still sharp young engineers etc coming out of higher ed. Painting middle age and young people with a broad brush and saying foreigners are more skilled just kinda rubs me the wrong way in terms of MAGA (my interpretation anyway).
Agreed, our education system really needs a major overhaul. There is going to be a lot of jobs for legacy industry brain power. Efficiency in creating the products will be a key focus item which will require both innovation and practicality. I think that primarily comes from Americans.
Think logically, it's about fixing the problem. Not causing more problems. Pulling the rug on H1B TOO fast causes a critical labor shortage that takes time to fill. You want the process to be more gradual.
Let's steal chinese citizens and have them fall in love with America. China has had issues with maintaining a skilled population, maybe this would add to their woes. Maybe this is a type of warfare tactic. Still sucks balls tho.
Let's take a thousand steps back and look at the bigger picture. Is he talking about increasing the status quo, or is he talking about increasing actual high quality talent? He's already said plenty of times h1b ABUSE must end and he already put in place some policies to address that (e.g. the 100k fee which the silicon valley companies are freaking out about)
He also said we need to bring in the best and brightest (for real, not the abuse of cheap labor of the past) and this is also true.
AND I AGREE WITH HIM...We DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH ENGINEERS AND THE WANNA BE ENGINEERS IN OUR COLLeGES ARE FOREIGNERS....GET RID OF THEM...PROGRAMMING THE SAME THING...
NOTE: I started out in engineering and had to leave the field due to the amount of Chinese and Indians coming into the country and had to get another degree in computer programming and that went "tits up" due to the amount of foreigners coming in (both China/India) and retired!!!!!!! I have been in this shista since the US government allowed these squirrels in!!!!
So this is the second time here I've seen a "clip" of an entire conversation with ZERO context given. He's talking about battery manufacturing...that's it! Now, stop posting this clip click bait shit and if you want, post the ENTIRE interview and let people decide what he's talking about.
I think what many people fail to understand is that if the US does not win the AI arms race it’s going to get really really bad here. This is the missing talent.
For some reason DJT seems to be distancing himself from MAGA (epstein -case in point). Not to be confused with Anons, who are watching a movie. There is still the Anon segment holding on, for sure. It is why we are all here on GAW. But, rank and file MAGA ( not Anons) and even more so, DJT supporters who wouldn’t consider themselves ‘MAGA’ are really disappointed lately (my observation anyway).
There were other parts of the interview above where he didn’t really seem to care about ‘MAGA’ in general, e.g. the question about 600K Chinese students. Not a good look imhop.
But hey, maybe we get 50 year mortgages (so the banks get richer) and a 2K stimmie’ check when the economy is ‘better than it has ever been’. Maybe I’m dooming here a bit but the fact that the cv vax is still in wide distribution and still on the children’s schedule has me a bit……mind-blown and…….cranky. How can we let untold generational damage be done to our kids in this manner? Are they all saline now? Sometimes you have to step out of the bubble and ask WTF? It is healthy :-). Maybe not?
Oh forgot…… are we going to bail out the AI bubble too? IDK.
Yes there’s far too much hokey-pokey still going on. Trump should post job openings here at GAW we know what the priorities are!
Personally, I like to think (dream) I’d actually do some good if called. There are some here that could, for sure!!!
In reality - I could not take the pressure and politics - don’t have the stomach for it. I do admire the administration, top-down, for being able to survive the environment in which they subject them and their families to on a daily basis.
I just hate being lied to though…. At this point, the lies seem to be directed at the ‘base’ to a degree (not Anons, who are in the know).
Kirk, vax, economy, epstein, etc.
I think with my personal experiences and sometimes terrifying mental state, id probably do really well, seeing once you go through things like that, you're on a completely different level of mental fortitude from maintaining, lol. I have dealt with a lot of abuse and gaslighting most of my life from family, employers, business prospects and even people I barely know. The weak attack the strong, and that's what it really boils down to.
I know ICE is hiring - I’m well past the age of ‘foot-soldier’ work though😀
This is a great take that would really explain our function in this - we understand that it’s a movie and the plot winds, so when optics distance is needed with MAGA to avoid looking tyrannical, we hold the line, and help hold MAGA at bay from their passions on the front end, then lead them back in on the back end.
Pretty brilliant mechanic. Small wonder the shills are always trying to get in and bash us with bad optics and dooming.
That is my thought. DJT needs to provide distance from certain ‘movements’ in order to not look tyrannical and remove the enemy from being able to point the finger.
I think we could agree that may have been in play with cov / vax 1st term.
Maybe what we are seeing here with is-real now.
It sure seems to be involved.
I got 2 shills downdooting my pointing at their ree.
Kek.
Remember who DJT is and where he came from. His history speaks for itself, is Turning Point USA the counter to MAGA? A lot of questions to be thought about.
Not sure if I understood ‘ counter to MAGA’ above. However, I have no doubt TPUSA could be weaponized against DJT, if it were to fall in the wrong hands. I don’t know how effective it would be. Lot of factors such as timing and core issues would need to be considered. Is it possible it was a trojan horse all along? IDK. A lot of the funding points to one direction.
Isn't there proof out there that TPUSA had Jewish majority donors controlling Charlie Kirk's company?
No doubt there are many links - for sure.
Way off base. Not even in the same field.
I’ll say many friends who voted for DJT who know nothing of ‘the plan’ are not really happy right now, and for ‘reasonable’ reasons.
These are people, who for example, might have some insights to epstein, but not comet ping-pong. They are still employed, but haven’t seen the cost of living come down a bit.
In my mind, there is no question he is currently insulting his ‘base’ of that ilk, and maybe some on the fringe of Q too.
Obviously, personal beliefs are tied to your faith in the plan, if you follow Q. If you don’t, (fair chunk of base) it is tied to faith in DJT and Co. Sentiment is slipping among my peers. YMMV.
Personally, I’m ready for some Truth to come out regarding lot’s of things but have yet to hear it on most. We need the Truth w/o Q decoder-ring level analysis asap, especially on the vax imhop. We may very well be continuing to poison a generation.
Trump should either shove the H1BVisas up his ass or attend a poop fest.
He could easily do either on his own.
...I hear dem shekels jingling...
Yes sir. That is the only explanation that goes along with his support for a 50 year mortgage. I haven't seen a single post in support of that one.
There was one - it was a link to some complex analysis that explained that it took power away from the fed and gave it to the people (my poor tdlr there, I’ m not doing the write up justice). I didn’t quite get through it…. I’m more of an Occam’s Razor type though. Debt slaves for life now on the table!!!! Yay!!!!!, not.
The ONLY explanation that I can come up with is that he thought Laura meant the O-1 visa which is exactly what he is describing here in the clip
https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary-workers/o-1-visa-individuals-with-extraordinary-ability-or-achievement
This, plus I take it that because of the exfoliating of jobs the "talent" is lacking because of a lack of practice and the next workforce will need to relearn these outsourced skills
Just take a look at US college students today. Half of them don't belong in higher education programs to begin with. And, the other half of them had their brains rotted out through DEI led college courses that taught them nothing of any substance.
And, all of them came from US Dept. of Education primary schooling. Relatively speaking, the US workforce is about as dumb as it has ever been in history.
A good bit of truth here.
Yes, it seems true to me. Regrettably, it's also true in the UK and, here in Greece, parents have to pay to send their kids to evening class if they want them to get a decent education.
This is such a bad look for being "America First". Fuck this shit. Deport more and stop illegal and legal migration. Fuck your legal migration talking points. mic drop
cheap slave labor
Do you want a Western country? What do u think happens if we continue importing Muslums, Asians, Africans? You turn into Brazil
isn't trump possibly saving Chinese refugees? is that too far out there? I'll shut up.
Trump is 100% right. People who haven't worked in years are nearly unemployable. Lazy, stupid, hooked on drugs and medications, brain damaged by the vaxx, illiterate, insane, indoctrinated by school room liberal and progressive MK Ultra trans bullshit. Many of these people in the unemployment lines are mentally and physically broken. They bring nothing but problems to the workplace. Don't believe it? HIRE ONE. Then shut the f up while you lick your wounds and repair your damaged equipment. This comment is PATHETIC. Of course it's going to take some time to CLEAN UP, EDUCATE, TRAIN people because stupid fucks like the commenter on this thread DID NOTHING for the last 5 decades while the Dept of Education WRECKED generation after generation, each one getting progressively worse. Meanwhile China, and India graduates can run circles around our graduates who can't even read. Wake up or get out SHILLS.
They can be trained by Americans from America. Why do you need to import someone on a visa to train them?
Oh the shills are active. 10 down votes. Just another effort to split MAGA. I don't buy it.
I would guess that while our colleges teaching liberal arts and DEI, the higher education in India and outer nations were teaching computer coding and things that you might actually need to make a living.
Yeah lets complain because God forbid that we start to think Trump is actually President and knows what hes doing.
No, it is fair to get pissed about this (without blackpilling of course, which I am not doing). I listened to the whole thing again and I think what Trump is talking about is 1. O1 Visas (Which I linked in my other comment) and 2. When Trump secured investments into the US from companies, and into new buildings for those companies, the companies he dealt with I guess need their people from across the ocean (from Japan, in Toyota's case) to help build the new plants.
This.
This is bad
My friend told me over the weekend that our corporation is going to lay off 5% of the workforce and it's sole purpose is to bring down body count. Can you guess how many Indians we have? Who do you think they'll lay off? It will be american citizens.
DJT is getting tangled up in economics considerations
Ideally offshoring jobs or bringing in third world laborers economically saves us in labor costs, freeing our labor to do better work for higher pay
In practice though this either takes USA jobs elsewhere (offshoring) or imports the third world here (immigration) so I guess we are realizing the pure economics view is a little short-sighted
Importing laborers here is probably not viable
Offshoring jobs can work a bit so long as I'd say both that better jobs are created here and backup self-sufficiency plans are in place if needed
Example: say we offload growing our food more to another country. If they decide they don't want to feed us, now we have a security issue of getting fed. So to some extent this is another problem with the pure economics view, not factoring in some of these risks
So... he stumbled a bit on this one. Our smart Americans should be able to build the missles. Our "dumb" ones should be able to do "grunt work". But we should be able to intelligently offshore if we do it carefully (or to buy certain goods from other countries)
This is what I call the cognitive revolution. The country that snatches up the most smart people wins. We are not talking about the grunt work people. As long as there are new starts, there will be an outside need for smart people.
Somebody hates like EVERY take on this thread haha
I don’t think many countries send their best and brightest. Not any more anyway (they did at one time maybe). Most of Europe and Asia have their own elite universities and they keep their best. The US academic system is for wannabe-patriots who believe in the USA and might want to settle, ‘travelers / bohemian types’ and……‘spies’. Just my thoughts - no real background on this…..
Two things attract this type of people: money and more importantly cutting edge work. $20T or more investment on top of our own investment will make the US the playground these people are looking for. It will be a mix of onshore and offshore people, all working for American companies. There is often a significant in the same room component to this work, so the ratio will typically lean towards onshore.
Valid points, however foreign companies building manufacturing facilities here aren’t American companies and that is much of what is being talked about. Hell - they will all be automated to the hilt anyway right? So, how many lower-level / mid-level middle class jobs are we talking about.
I’ve been tied to product mfg. my whole career and we do still have the talent and skills to build properly. Dare I say innovate as well. I do also understand we have a knowledge gap though. The basket weaver degrees are being handed out like candy will always be useless, There are still sharp young engineers etc coming out of higher ed. Painting middle age and young people with a broad brush and saying foreigners are more skilled just kinda rubs me the wrong way in terms of MAGA (my interpretation anyway).
Agreed, our education system really needs a major overhaul. There is going to be a lot of jobs for legacy industry brain power. Efficiency in creating the products will be a key focus item which will require both innovation and practicality. I think that primarily comes from Americans.
Think logically, it's about fixing the problem. Not causing more problems. Pulling the rug on H1B TOO fast causes a critical labor shortage that takes time to fill. You want the process to be more gradual.
Jeez frens. Freaking breathe. Everything happens for a reason and there are no unplanned events here.
PDJT is talking about a set of limited circumstances, and some frens here are blowing their stacks over it.
Relax. PDJT is all about merit and MAGA, and he recognizes that our education system has failed in this context.
Trump is right
Let's steal chinese citizens and have them fall in love with America. China has had issues with maintaining a skilled population, maybe this would add to their woes. Maybe this is a type of warfare tactic. Still sucks balls tho.
Universities arent giving us skilled workers. Just skilled whiners.
Let's take a thousand steps back and look at the bigger picture. Is he talking about increasing the status quo, or is he talking about increasing actual high quality talent? He's already said plenty of times h1b ABUSE must end and he already put in place some policies to address that (e.g. the 100k fee which the silicon valley companies are freaking out about)
He also said we need to bring in the best and brightest (for real, not the abuse of cheap labor of the past) and this is also true.
AND I AGREE WITH HIM...We DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH ENGINEERS AND THE WANNA BE ENGINEERS IN OUR COLLeGES ARE FOREIGNERS....GET RID OF THEM...PROGRAMMING THE SAME THING...
NOTE: I started out in engineering and had to leave the field due to the amount of Chinese and Indians coming into the country and had to get another degree in computer programming and that went "tits up" due to the amount of foreigners coming in (both China/India) and retired!!!!!!! I have been in this shista since the US government allowed these squirrels in!!!!
Collages, eh? In my teens, I made a collage on my wall with pictures cut from magazines. But no engineers - mostly pop stars.
I fixed so it was easier to see and tango yankee for catching it...was on the way out the door for an appt...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So this is the second time here I've seen a "clip" of an entire conversation with ZERO context given. He's talking about battery manufacturing...that's it! Now, stop posting this clip click bait shit and if you want, post the ENTIRE interview and let people decide what he's talking about.
I think what many people fail to understand is that if the US does not win the AI arms race it’s going to get really really bad here. This is the missing talent.