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Yet another example of big pharma ruining peoples health: “ Many millions of American women were prescribed a blockbuster drug against osteoporosis. And it turns out that that drug, when taken over several years, “actually makes people’s bones more brittle…” (twitter.com)
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– propertyofUniverse 10 points 166 days ago +10 / -0

Borax counters osteoporosis.

I guess that's too simple and cheap.

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– Oblakhan 3 points 166 days ago +3 / -0

How do you take borax, and what source? Twenty Mule Team?

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– propertyofUniverse 6 points 166 days ago +6 / -0

I don't take it every day, but when I remember I'll take perhaps an 1/8 of a teaspoonful in warm water. I heard it's best to take a break every week if you take it every day. I've heard that is can affect levels of reproductive hormones if you don't take a break of maybe 2 out of every 7 days.

It works to make sure calcium ends up in the bones rather than in the blood or in plaques anywhere else. It works in conjunction with vitamin D and K2 to this purpose.

I believe it helps reduce joint inflammation as well. Not sure whether that is connected to sequestering calcium in bones. Anyway, it reduces inflammation in both osteo and rhematoid arthritis and joint injury.

Side benefits of boron supplementation is that is helps flush fluoride and some heavy metals out of the body.

I think 20 mule team is OK. in general, mined borax is pure enough to be safe.

Disclaimer Don't take my word for anything, verify with your own research.

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– INK10 3 points 166 days ago +3 / -0

I've been using Borax for about fifteen years. I also take Diatomaceous Earth a few times/month. I'm at an age where bone density is an issue, but my bone density is very good. Also, regular exercise is extremely helpful.

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– eagledriver 2 points 165 days ago +2 / -0

Take both of these: D and K2 and they work as advertised...My bones don't hurt like they used too!!!!

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– makemyday007 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

I love hearing what people are trying and of course doing my own research. Thanks friend.

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– deleted 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0
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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

brave AI says:

Boron supplementation may support bone health and has shown potential benefits for individuals at risk of osteoporosis, particularly postmenopausal women. Research indicates that boron plays a critical role in bone metabolism by enhancing the absorption and utilization of calcium, magnesium, and vitamin D, all of which are essential for maintaining bone mineral density (BMD). Studies have demonstrated that boron deficiency is associated with reduced calcium and magnesium retention, which can negatively impact bone strength. Supplementation with boron has been linked to decreased urinary excretion of calcium and magnesium, suggesting improved mineral retention and reduced bone demineralization.

A pilot study on postmenopausal women found that boron supplementation reduced calcium loss in urine, which may help prevent osteoporosis. Another study reported that 66 out of 100 patients with osteoporosis experienced improved bone density after six months of supplementation with calcium and boron. In a clinical trial involving vitamin D-deficient patients, supplementation with 6 mg of boron from FruiteX B® OsteoBoron™ led to an average 24% increase in serum vitamin D levels, which is crucial for calcium absorption and bone health. Animal studies further support these findings, showing increased bone mineral content in rats treated with FruiteX B® OsteoBoron™.

The most commonly studied and recommended dosage for bone health is 3 mg per day, which has been shown to be safe and effective in multiple studies. This dose is considered optimal for supporting bone growth and maintenance without significant risk of toxicity, as the upper intake level (UL) for adults is set at 20 mg/day. Some research suggests that a daily intake of 2–3 mg of boron may be optimal for bone health, with higher intakes potentially offering additional benefits.

Despite these promising findings, the evidence is not universally conclusive. One study found no significant effect of boron on calcium loss in individuals with adequate magnesium intake , and another noted that while boron supplementation showed benefits in some trials, it is not currently recommended as a primary treatment for osteoporosis due to limited high-quality evidence. Nevertheless, boron is often considered a valuable adjunctive nutrient in bone health regimens, especially for those with low dietary intake of fruits and vegetables.

In summary, boron supplementation at a dose of 3 mg per day may help improve bone mineral density and support bone health, particularly in postmenopausal women, by enhancing the body’s use of key bone-building nutrients and hormones. However, it should be viewed as a complementary strategy rather than a standalone treatment for osteoporosis.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Also,

see this paper, it was the first result in a search on boron supplementation and osteoporosis:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32540741/

Pivotal role of boron supplementation on bone health: A narrative review Mariangela Rondanelli 1, Milena Anna Faliva 2, Gabriella Peroni 3, Vittoria Infantino 4, Clara Gasparri 5, Giancarlo Iannello 6, Simone Perna 7, Antonella Riva 8, Giovanna Petrangolini 9, Alice Tartara 10 Affiliations Expand PMID: 32540741 DOI: 10.1016/j.jtemb.2020.126577 Free article Abstract Background: Boron is a trace element that plays an important role in numerous biological functions, including calcium metabolism, growth and maintenance of bone tissue. However, there are still no precise indications regarding a possible role of boron supplementation, and its amount of supplementation, to maintain bone health. So the aim of this narrative review was to consider the state of the art on the effectiveness of boron supplementation (alone or with other micronutrients) on growth and maintenance of bone in humans through control of calcium, vitamin D and sex steroid hormone metabolism in order to suggest a daily dosage of boron supplementation.

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– N0rds 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

I used to take the mule box version but gave up and just bought proper borax supplements from Amazon, to be safe, and sure that it was the right amount and not contaminated since the cleaning stuff isn't exactly meant for eating, id rather spend a few bucks to get food grade stuff

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– makemyday007 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Following

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– Mungfatchee 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the reminder to take my borax!!!

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– 208-RZ 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Borax is magic!

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– makemyday007 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

I would love any information you have on this topic.

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– FeebleOldMan 4 points 166 days ago +4 / -0

I am a testament to its work. Went from im gona have to have a 3rd knee resurfacing surgery to 99% of the pain is gona and it now bends smoothly in 2 weeks, may have been 1 but i noticed at 2. Been like 5 years and i still drink it and knee working great still. Saved me from under sleep surgery.

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– gobby 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

Excellent!

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– propertyofUniverse 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

I've just put another comment up in this post on that.

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– mac1221 5 points 166 days ago +5 / -0

After almost 3 decades in clinical practice this is the cascade of what I witnessed. It was a polypharma linked cascade. I always tried to steer my patients into more non pharmaceutical therapies with moderate success. Most of the patients in my practice leaned in that direction to begin with, so it was not a hard sell.

Perimenopausal and menopausal women are often given hormone replacement therapy for their hot flashes etc.. Instead of seeking out bioidentical hormone replacement therapy, they are usually given the big pharm drug Premarin. The Premarin starts trashing the stomach fairly quickly - diagnosis, GERD. Enter new med - either a PPI or H2 blocker for the GERD. These drugs interfere with proper digestion - protein and mineral absorption that both require an acidic environment. That stomach acid is also needed as part of nature's front line defense against dietary infectious material in food. This lack of stomach acid over the years eventually leads to weakened bones and skeletal muscle. (As a side note: Most people don't have a problem with too much stomach acid. They in fact have a situation of low stomach acid. But in this cascade scenario, there is also the component of side effects due to a hormone replacement drug.)

Bogus guidelines then redefine parameters for diagnosis of osteoporosis. This has been the case with many conditions that used to fall within "normal" guidelines. The newer guidelines sell more drugs. These patients now become the perfect demographic to sell a new drug for their weakened bones. New drug added - a bisphosphonate for osteoporosis.

Bone remodeling requires one cell to remove old diseased bone and one cell to build bone. A bisphosphonate cuts off one side of this remodeling pathway - the cells that remove bone. This is a pathway that is supposed to exist in balance. Some genius thought that it would be a good idea to just leave one part of that pathway intact, the bone building cells, while inhibiting the other part of this important pathway. The problem: What first may look good on paper, ends up being a disaster in the application. That so called new bone that was left is not normal bone. It becomes very brittle leaving the person vulnerable to breakage. Normal bone healing in the event of injury or other damage did not seem to be a consideration. Basic physiology here.

Some older orthopedic guys I have spoken with complained about this brittle bone when it came time to replace a hip or a knee. They have been around long enough to have noticed the change. The younger ones that have come onboard, not so much. The bone is not healthy and since the pathway to normal bone remodeling has been interfered with, the post operative healing may be an issue. In the case of an elderly patient, it can be life threatening. There are also cases of patients on these drugs getting necrosis of the jaw just getting a tooth extracted. I have seen some case studies from oral surgeons that were horrific. Even if a patient stops taking the drug, it can remain active in the bones up to 10 years or longer.

All of the above described situations were something I made note of over my years in practice. It does not hold true all the time, but it was frequent enough to notice a pattern. I also noticed the increase in polypharma situations and the bombardment of vaxxinations. These observations are starting to see the light of day long after I was sounding the alarm bells. I was not alone. Especially with the bisphosphonates. Just some common sense and actually reading the pharmacological actions of these drugs were enough for me to say, hey, we may need to rethink this. I also had not slept through my anatomy and physiology coursework. I was not jumping on that bandwagon. These people are truly evil.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

That is really interesting. Thank you for explaining that mechanism.

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– mac1221 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

You are most welcome. Merry Christmas.

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– propertyofUniverse 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

You too fren!

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– ILoveIvermectin 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Pharmakiea right from Book of Revelation

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– mac1221 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

Around 1/4 of all drivers on the road are impaired due to prescribed medications. And let's not forget all the tokers behind the wheel. So most definitely we are witnessing it in real time - people being spiritually disconnected from the real source of life.

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– Treeman 4 points 166 days ago +4 / -0

A few years ago, I was lying down, working under a truck. When I tilted my head and looked in a certain direction, I had a terrible experience with vertigo. I thought that I might vomit, although I did not. I went to see a doctor; he gave me some motion sickness medicine and instructed me to try the Eppley’s maneuver. Well, that had little effect.

In October 2021, I was feeling bad and my oxygen level in my blood dropped, had a cough and I do not know what all, now. I took some Ivermectin, it did not seem to do anything for how I felt, but my dizziness went away. It came back around September 2022, so I took some Ivermectin, it went away. It came back, then in October 2024 started 1/8 tsp. borax, daily.

Dizziness went away not long after starting borax, has been gone since, 15 months of relief. I have missed appr. 50 days out of about 500 days.

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– wyomiles 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

I am fighting vertigo right now, can you tell me how where to get the borax? In what form /how do you take it ?

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– CasuallyObservant 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

The Epley maneuver is fantastic if you have a tiny particle in your inner ear fluid that's broken free (sometimes from hard coughing, a blow to the head, or even bending over...) and is floating around untethered, touching sensitive inner ear nerves. Tilting your head around in a particular manner (Epley maneuver) to reposition that particle will sometimes fix it immediately.

If it's not caused by this, another thing that causes vertigo is too much supplemental Selenium. If you are taking it, stop.

Another cause can be from a sinus infection. Take a Sudafed and use some Afrin nose spray and see if it doesn't shrink the swollen membranes down a bit.

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– Treeman 2 points 165 days ago +2 / -0

I use Twenty Mule Team. It's a laundry detergent booster. It's in the laundry detergent aisle in most grocery stores, etc. Don't let that scare you, but do a little research, I'm not a doctor.

As I said, "I take 1/8 tsp. borax, daily." I dissolve it in warm water, like you would coffee.

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– Paul_Revere 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

I'd like to know this, too.

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– Treeman 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

I use Twenty Mule Team. It's a laundry detergent booster. It's in the laundry detergent aisle in most grocery stores, etc. Don't let that scare you, but do a little research, I'm not a doctor.

As I said, "I take 1/8 tsp. borax, daily." I dissolve it in warm water, like you would coffee.

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– gobby 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

It's possible the crystals in your ear got out of balance. IF THAT is the case, you might benefit from the Canalith Repositioning Maneuver. Here is a video. There are tons of them. Of course, your dizziness might not have anything to do with the crystals in your ear, but this is worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVJ939Y87WM

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– wyomiles 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

Yep been doing that ,Just takes a bit to reset I guess.

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– gobby 1 point 165 days ago +1 / -0

Hmm. Well, maybe that's not it. Also, I think my grandma had the help of an audiologist, so you might benefit from that sort of help. She watched a similar video and said when she had it done, they had her in a 'crazier' position than that. She didn't think that position would have helped her. Just fyi.

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– Revodude 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

I am guessing that he is talking about Fosamax. There is a class action lawsuit that has been gathering dust for years.

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– makemyday007 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

This is good to hear.

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– Paul_Revere 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

And what is this "new drug" that he's talking about?

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– Revodude 3 points 166 days ago +3 / -0

I am guessing Fosamax.

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– ILoveIvermectin 2 points 166 days ago +2 / -0

Yup.

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– Paul_Revere 1 point 166 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks to you and Revodude. I have passed the information on to where it will do much good! Merry Christmas!

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